BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates

[Syke]

I am not BFL's defender

One more thing. Have you ever posted in a non-BFL thread? I just checked your last 100 posts. 100% are in BFL threads defending BFL. 100%!!! You really need to get out more. Your obsession with BFL is quite unhealthy.

[1714095790]

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[Chopperman]

I am not BFL's defender

One more thing. Have you ever posted in a non-BFL thread? I just checked your last 100 posts. 100% are in BFL threads defending BFL. 100%!!! You really need to get out more. Your obsession with BFL is quite unhealthy.

To be fair, it's mostly setting up strawman arguments and defaming anybody who dares to criticize BFL, which in some variations of the English Language, is different from defending BFL.    BCP's hobby is trolling, he likes this shit.

[bcp19]

I am not BFL's defender

One more thing. Have you ever posted in a non-BFL thread? I just checked your last 100 posts. 100% are in BFL threads defending BFL. 100%!!! You really need to get out more. Your obsession with BFL is quite unhealthy.

Yep, posted in a lot of threads, but it was the idiots in these threads that started my crusade, so I do my best to tell them they are stupid and show why they are stupid.  Kind of like you... replying to the same post twice and failing to understand the point.  Telling stupid people they are stupid isn't defending anything, but the stupid people take it as such.  That's why I love these threads, the stupid people come out in droves and deny the truth when it's told to them over and over.

[Chopperman]

The truth:

"Now, there is a stench coming from Butterfly Labs. It's a strong smell. "

BFL has demonstrated their monumental incompetence at the miner manufacturer game for the last 6 months (time past their own original estimate)

BFL policy and actions fly against the law in many jurisdictions, and they will come to face this.

BFL's staff and friends are overwhelmingly sociopath characters.

BFL is a toxic pillar of the BitCoin world.

[hardhouseinc]

The truth:

"Now, there is a stench coming from Butterfly Labs. It's a strong smell. "

BFL has demonstrated their monumental incompetence at the miner manufacturer game for the last 6 months (time past their own original estimate)

BFL policy and actions fly against the law in many jurisdictions, and they will come to face this.

BFL's staff and friends are overwhelmingly sociopath characters.

BFL is a toxic pillar of the BitCoin world.

The stench could possibly be from the shitty rancid sausage they are trying to make with some
recipe they pulled out of their ass.
This jerry rig monarch of a joke just keeps getting more and more laughable.

 Monarch Engineering Update
by
BFL_Josh
, 05-21-2014 at 10:45 PM (Josh's Soapbox)

    I am going to try something new and see how it works out. I have avoided giving specific engineering updates in the past because it's a lot like making sausage. It's all delicious and wonderful until you see how it's made. Seeing how a new engineering project comes to life can be a scary thing.

    That said, here's what we are working on, have worked on or completed:




https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_josh/388-monarch-engineering-update.html

[Bicknellski]

http://www.coindesk.com/five-biggest-threats-facing-bitcoin/

Code:

The bad actor problem creates a consumer protection issue for 
bitcoin. When people learn about bitcoin and are lured to products 
and services that do not follow best practices, as opaque as they 
may be in this industry, that’s a problem.

And Coindesk reporters / editors should remember that when they do little to help combat it. Particularly their lack of reports and investigation into BFL simply regurgitating ARS technica is not reporting on the issues. They have been silent and even duplicitous in ignoring BFL over and over again while they promoted BFL early on they have done nothing since to report the striking failures of BFL time and time again. Makes you wonder why?

[dropt]

What an idiot.  Making sausage isn't scary at all, neither is watching an engineered product come to life...

[Bicknellski]

What an idiot.  Making sausage isn't scary at all, neither is watching an engineered product come to life...

Of course depending on whose money is used to develop it there would be good reason to hide the facts or use analogies to make it seem like people do not want to know why the Monarch is now over 160 days late.


How Late is the Monarch?


Might be time to start BFL ANON program. You get a key chain for every month you don't order form BFL or mine at EMC.

Anyone with a BFL refund and has not ordered or used BFL or EMC for 1 month can get this chip. You are one month sober from BFL. Congrats.



Steps to Recovery

admitting that one cannot control one's addiction or compulsion to buy BFL bullshit and pre-orders.
recognizing that if you educate yourself with the facts you can have strength to choose better suppliers of ASIC miners and mining pools.
examining past errors with the help of the forums (experienced member).
making amends for these errors and seeing how your support of BFL has harmed others.
learning to live a new life with a new code of behavior for example NEVER BUY PRE-ORDERS.
helping others who suffer from the same addictions or compulsions so that they can break free of BFL and EMC.

[joeventura]

I am not BFL's defender

One more thing. Have you ever posted in a non-BFL thread? I just checked your last 100 posts. 100% are in BFL threads defending BFL. 100%!!! You really need to get out more. Your obsession with BFL is quite unhealthy.

Yep, posted in a lot of threads, but it was the idiots in these threads that started my crusade, so I do my best to tell them they are stupid and show why they are stupid.  Kind of like you... replying to the same post twice and failing to understand the point.  Telling stupid people they are stupid isn't defending anything, but the stupid people take it as such.  That's why I love these threads, the stupid people come out in droves and deny the truth when it's told to them over and over.

You are a crusader for BFL and you are going to tell people why they are stupid??

[dropt]

<snip>

I'm curious, how much did you pay for this Bitcointalk account?  I have great reservation that you're the same person that created it.

[Zelek Uther]

What an idiot.  Making sausage isn't scary at all, neither is watching an engineered product come to life...

Of course depending on whose money is used to develop it there would be good reason to hide the facts or use analogies to make it seem like people do not want to know why the Monarch is now over 160 days late.


How Late is the Monarch?


Might be time to start BFL ANON program. You get a key chain for every month you don't order form BFL or mine at EMC.

Anyone with a BFL refund and has not ordered or used BFL or EMC for 1 month can get this chip. You are one month sober from BFL. Congrats.



Steps to Recovery

admitting that one cannot control one's addiction or compulsion to buy BFL bullshit and pre-orders.
recognizing that if you educate yourself with the facts you can have strength to choose better suppliers of ASIC miners and mining pools.
examining past errors with the help of the forums (experienced member).
making amends for these errors and seeing how your support of BFL has harmed others.
learning to live a new life with a new code of behavior for example NEVER BUY PRE-ORDERS.
helping others who suffer from the same addictions or compulsions so that they can break free of BFL and EMC.

Dude, the only one with an addiction for BFL here is you, your whole life would be empty without your daily attention moments here, since nothing else really comes out of your hands anyway. Even Marto knows what a fool you are with your pathetic territorial pissings in his hardware thread, just because he develops and actually makes hardware, where you at best are able to pull money out of peoples hands for doing nothing but blabbering about your online meetings.

And of course anyone not agreeing is corrupt, a paid shill, or even worse.
So, here's a deal. If you can prove that anyone, just one will do, is actually paid by BFL to shill for them here, than I will prove that you, <SEO shit deleted>, are a pedophile with a Montessori school in Djakarta.

Fair deal?

Why such vitriol against Bicknellski? Has he taken millions of customer pre-order money?

Have you ever ordered from BFL, and if so, what was your experience?

[bcp19]

I am not BFL's defender

One more thing. Have you ever posted in a non-BFL thread? I just checked your last 100 posts. 100% are in BFL threads defending BFL. 100%!!! You really need to get out more. Your obsession with BFL is quite unhealthy.

Yep, posted in a lot of threads, but it was the idiots in these threads that started my crusade, so I do my best to tell them they are stupid and show why they are stupid.  Kind of like you... replying to the same post twice and failing to understand the point.  Telling stupid people they are stupid isn't defending anything, but the stupid people take it as such.  That's why I love these threads, the stupid people come out in droves and deny the truth when it's told to them over and over.

You are a crusader for BFL and you are going to tell people why they are stupid??

You just proved my point, you're too stupid to realize you're wrong yet again.  I giggle when I think about how much time you spent searching the net to try and insult me with such a lame picture.  Give it up dude, you have no clue.  Maybe you should join Bick's collective, he needs some comic relief over there since he can't even get a board designed in 6 months time.  I know you'll keep trying though, you and the tin-foil hat guys must be related.

[Xian01]

So, here's a deal. If you can prove that anyone, just one will do, is actually paid by BFL to shill for them here, than I will prove that you, <SEO shit deleted>, are a pedophile with a Montessori school in Djakarta.
Fair deal?

 This is in very poor taste and completely out of line on these forums.

 You are just parroting libel that Butterfly Labs has concocted to discredit those who bring attention to their deplorable business practices.

 For shame.

[philipma1957]

So, here's a deal. If you can prove that anyone, just one will do, is actually paid by BFL to shill for them here, than I will prove that you, <SEO shit deleted>, are a pedophile with a Montessori school in Djakarta.
Fair deal?

 This is in very poor taste and completely out of line on these forums.

 You are just parroting libel that Butterfly Labs has concocted to discredit those who bring attention to their deplorable business practices.

 For shame.

Yeah I have to agree putting peoples names in  context as a pedophile is nasty shit.


I for one will tell you   BFL  took 13 + months to refund my 530 usd.  They have not been a good company.

 I will also say BFL is not the only shitty company.
 
Black Arrow  has been pretty bad of  late.   
Hashfast never delivered  . 
Avalon and KNC  pulled some nasty shit.

[Bicknellski]

So, here's a deal. If you caPokokohua!n prove that anyone, just one will do, is actually paid by BFL to shill for them here, than I will prove that you, <SEO shit deleted>, are a pedophile with a Montessori school in Djakarta.
Fair deal?

 This is in very poor taste and completely out of line on these forums.

 You are just parroting libel that Butterfly Labs has concocted to discredit those who bring attention to their deplorable business practices.

 For shame.

This has been a favorite tactic before but now the lawyers have a gag on Inaba / Josh / Slok and others etc they have to use other accounts to get their shrill message out. Amazing he finally broke cover using an account. Doesn't take much to push his ego into comment. Just have to tell the truth and he finds a way to post.

Slandering people is just par for the course. Again when Pokokohua! leaves daily spam and I do mean daily negative trust ratings on my name and others you wonder who the obsessive and twisted person is. These people need a mental health checkup and they need it right away. I worry for the their well being. Interestingly this account seems to sound as concerned about Marto as BFL hmmm wonder why? Why would this account point out Marto? Funny.

Check out Pokokohua! go from grammar error filled ESL student to native speaker in less than one post early on in this "newbies" posts. Now back to misspellings and grammar errors. Like there are a few people using this account.

Code:

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-27	0.00000020		
Addicted to BFL much? His only effort sofar seems spreading fud and lies 

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-26	0.00000000		
Read his trusted and untrusted feedback, and you know how people think 
about this failure of a human

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-25	10.00000000		
So lost he declares the Monarch as being non-existent vapourware, 
and a couple of hours later is pretty sure BFL is mining with them 
stealing customers coins???? WTF, he's getting dumber by the hour!!!!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-24	0.00000000		
Another fail, thinking anyone would trust him with their money? 
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/montessori-observation-montessori-
secondary-albums 

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-23	0.00000020		
13 anti-bfl posts from the weaksauce of bitcointalk bicknellski, 
2 blabla's on the wasp fail nexxxxtttttttt

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-22	0.00000000
dumb and a fool, can't stand other one's success, 
"gonna cry a bit more, then waist my time at the IRS"

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-21	0.00000020		
So desperate for attention he's posting about houses 
bought by BFL personnel?? Jalousie because he lives 
of fees from the people still believing his wasp fantasies???

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-20	0.00000020		
So desperate for attention he's posting in one year old 
topics now??? Wasp update in 12322001 - 12322000 - 
12321099....???????

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-19	0.00000020		
"Numerous bfl lawsuits", since when is 2 numerous?
Numerous is the amount of lies spread everyday by 
Darin Bicknell, only 10 anti-bfl posts today, guess he's 
gotta do something to distract from that wasp fail he 
is filling his pockets with? Again?

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-18	0.00000020		
quote bicknellski; 
"massive rma number for bfl" 
Truth: it's 0.7% lowest of all sha256 asic manufacturers

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-17	0.00000000		
Monarch release countdown 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3........ 
Wasp release countdown 10022000012223 10022000012222 
10022000012221.......

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-16	0.00000020		
Wakes up thinking of BFL 
All day long he thinks of BFL 
Goes to bed thinking of BFL 
what a loser........


Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-15	0.00000020		
delivered units: 
BUTTERFLY LABS: >50,000 
BICKNELLSKI: 0

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-14	0.00000000		
Unfortunately Wasp and previous Bicknellski fails are a faith 
based industry. the only miracle is people still pay him for 
not producing anything except anti BFL propaganda, 
and attacking other project builders that do deliver, 
like Marto7.


Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-13	0.00000000		
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, loooooooooook, he has a render!!!!!!! 
a kid could make in in 2 minutes!!! After how long?????? 
A year????????? lol

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-12	0.00000020		
Diverts from the issue he is paid from wasp fees paid by 
people he lied to, and buys from wasp competitors hardware 
he mines with into his own pockets. caveat emptor!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-11	0.00000020		
Buys hardware from vendors and lets others pay for it through 
his wasp fantasy, are you all fools to fall for it?????

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-10	0.00000000		
Aonther one that knows Bicknell, and how he fills his pockets, 
and brings nothing in return: 
"Wrong Bick Grin 
You are taking your developers time for free and on top they 
are paying you a member fee Grin 
However it is their will. You are not forcing them to donate 
their time and money to your project. 
We have a saying which in English sounds like 
The mad man is not the one who is eating the cake but 
the one who is giving it for free 
Buy the way how are your meetings going lately? 
No announcement no CSS designs and provisioning serves 
Are you still on track? Grin"

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-09	0.00000020		
Completely lost person, thinks everybody is just one 
person, the BFL boss. Me too of course, so I am 
competing "in my own contest". The saddest part, 
it is to be believed this fool runs a montessori 
school??? Really????

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-08	0.00000000		
Quote Marto7: @ Bick 
" How are your online meetings going , any progress ? 
Any working product ? Wink You always prefer to quote trolls 
like Joe and call us scam , instead showing a real mining board . 
You know the fact that we had some problems is not going to 
change the fact that after a years of "hard work" you got , what ? 
And since you are not familiar with Joe's case I assume you are 
just looking for a chance to make us look bad. 
Please , I'm really sorry that we managed to came out with 
working projects and you are still trying . 
Please try better and keep us on your ignore list. Good luck"

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-07	0.00000020		
Darin Bicknell is the Joseph Goebbels of the internet: 
"just keep repeating the lie and it will become a truth eventually".

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-06	0.00000000		
dropped the ball with Klondike, now they know too what a 
fail bicknell turned out to be.

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-05	0.00000000		
9 anti-bfl posts today while not even a customer, from this 
self-proclaimed Jesus the righteous. Repaid everybody that 
stepped in to your dreamworld and lost big time???

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-04	0.00000000		
Bicknellski's play with the WASP is clearly directed at noobs 
and those who are not aware of the minimums in hash power 
required today in mining, stay away before he steals your 
money too!!!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-03	0.00000020		
Posted there are 7,000,000,000 billion (that's 7,000,000,000 X 7,000,000,000!!) 
people on this planet, and this genius teaches children??

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-02	0.00000000		
"Who took 15+ months and counting to deliver 28nm?" 
You bicknelski? BFL did it in under 8 months. 
The 15 month one is you....still waiting on your 115nm 
product, waiting.........waiting........waiting.......

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-05-01	0.00000020		
Already early 2013 advised people to get a refund from BFL 
and jump on Avalon's third batch bandwagon, which never was 
delivered, costing people thousands of dollars/btc

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-30	0.00000000		
was provided a 0% loan from sheeple who believed in 
his fantasies, prison would fit this asshamster just fine

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-29	234.00000000		
Avoid any project he is in, already stole thousands by 
gambling on wrong horses with customer money!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-28	0.00000020		
Careful, made up most of his resumeeeeeeeee

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-27	0.00000020		
Cough -Darin Bicknell- Cough - Scammer-. Cough-thief-Cough-liar 
distracting newbies-Cough-beware!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-26	0.00000000		
Only 2 anti-BFL lies today, bicknellski who scammed 
people out of thousands of $ is losing it? 
"Reason is lost on those with overactive imaginations.", indeed

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-25	0.00000020		
"I contacted that lawyer who won Mr. Lolli's case. After long 
silence he said that $2k deposit is required, his rate is something 
like $200/h and no guarantee he gives. Guess that story 
was just another scam cover operation." lollilollilolli

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-24	0.00000020		
Want to see a comprehensive list of Bicknellski lies, just
read all his posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=
profile;u=76550;sa=showPosts Remember: Bicknellski stole 
1000s of peoples hard earned dollars and btc by failing not 
only to deliver a hardware product on time, he did not deliver 
at all! Millions of revenue from his customers could have 
mined went up in smoke!!!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-23	0.00000020		
Started abusing trusted feedback system on 2013-08-21. Has been 
posting lies in the trust feedback since then, now posts walls of text 
on everybody's trust list even for disagreeing with him


Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-22	0.00000000		
"It's not enough to send you to prison today,' and it will never 
be, because a lying Darin Bicknell, and a bunch of stupid 
statements and rumors ("missed out on enrichment" 
"must be mining themselves" lolololol "bought a 
company car and house for visitors and employees 
to use" boooohoooohooo must be scam because Bickell 
jalousy") will never be enough

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-21	0.00000020		
"It is a link to the CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against BFL. 
Not a referral to shop with them." 

There is no class action lawsuit, it is a request to open 
one, but as in most of his posts, it is an utter fail again.

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-19	0.00000020		
Quote: "Eventually someone is going to rollover and 
provide evidence to avoid jail', is this when information 
from your former employers will come through and you 
will be dealt with? Bicknelski trust: -11: -2 / +0(0) 
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-18	0.00000000		
Doesn't know he difference between a request to 
update a filed case to a class action and an actual 
class action, priceless. Have a quarter!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-17	0.00000000		
Although his group buy was refunded fully he failed to 
respond to many refund query's in a timely and professional 
manner. You should avoid doing business with him, 
his trust rating: -11: -2 / +0(0) 
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-16	123.00000000		
bumps up 16 months old threads, what a worthless 
life he must have.

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-15	0.00000020		
cries about wanting a forum where only his likes would be 
welcome, a bfl abuse club, what a joke, how does it feel
to be the joke of the forum bicknelski?

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-11	234.00000000		
Bicknellski has been spamming the trust system for 
months without having any business with bfl or emc 
pool, clearly evidences this Don Quichotte as the 
weakest sauce on the shelf misusing a system for 
his own benefit. What happened is good people left 
this forum because of twats like this.

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-08	0.00000000		
Bicknellski's lie for today: "Yes the hardware vaporware 
they are hawking and the fact some people misread the 
ASIC wave that flooded BTC." The only vaporware 
existing is anything Bicknell tries to pull off the ground, 
fail again!


Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-07	0.00000020		
5 anti-BFL posts today = 5 lies, now (ftfy) altering 
quotes from other people's posts too? 

1 "At what point do you really want to keep some 
one on the payroll that is that delusion / willing to 
lie? At some point that will be a liability legally." 
2 "Remember there are hundreds of unfortunate 
BFL customers that got scammed" 
3 "BFL Scammed millions over a long period" 
4 "And most certainly 50% of them are multis created 
by BFL" 
5 "They stipulated somewhere in the convoluted terms 
that you get a refund when / if they can resell your 
order to others after 30-45 otherwise they won't give 
a refund."

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-06	0.00000000		
Today's Bicknell's delusion: "BFL is working on the 
monarch for 14 months now" 
What a joke, are you living in some sort of fantasy 
world where what you make up is true? 
Stay away of his wasp dream, it will never come true, 
like any of his former failed projects, he even admits 
it won't pay back it's purchase price!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-05	0.00000000		
BICKNELL'S LIE FOR TODAY: "Stand in solidarity with 
the hundreds of customers that got scammed like......" 
AND THEN HE COMES UP WITH 1, REPEAT 1 NAME...... 
No wonder his life is so full of fail, don't trust this 
guy with a single satoshi! The only scammer 
around here keeping his customers on the line 
was Bicknellski and his avalon wet dream

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-04	0.00000000		
Bicknellski's lie for today: "There are so many faux 
accounts on the forums at BFL I bet that fake 
accounts out number the real ones" Delusional 
to the max!

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-03	0.00000020		
Watch out, 95% of his posts are anti-bfl rants, 
mentally disturbed person.

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-04-01	0.00000000		
Does not understand contest rules, Pavlov effect makes 
him post without thinking, completely wrong or just a bit 
stupid?. Hint "registration date, on what site?" Blinded by 
hate?

Pokokohua! -16: -4 / +1(1)	2014-03-30	0.00000000		
Pathological liar. Cheats forum members repeatedly with 
false information over BFL, their employees and their products 
-all successful- while his business fails, has absolutely no 
technical knowledge, qualifies non working usb hubs as bfl 
product failures. Falsely rates people who are producing 
hardware and are an asset to the bitcoin community 
negative, and ridicules any forum member that confronts 
him on his lies. Too bad a lot of these types hang around 
on this forum, no orders but crying scam over legit companies, 
while they are never seen in the real scam topics.

[joeventura]

The patented BCP retort...........




You're stupid, no you are.

Nicely done BCP

[bcp19]

The patented BCP retort...........




You're stupid, no you are.

Nicely done BCP

I realize the truth hurts, I'm sorry for causing you pain.  Thanks for the points though

[Bicknellski]

Involuntary Chapter 11.

BFL should be shaking in their boots. How long before the creditors come knocking?

[joeventura]

The patented BCP retort...........




You're stupid, no you are.

Nicely done BCP

I realize the truth hurts, I'm sorry for causing you pain.  Thanks for the points though

Hehehe must be a scary place inside your noggin.

Points? Huh? Well whats the score there Rasputin?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Yeah I have to agree putting peoples names in  context as a pedophile is nasty shit.


I for one will tell you   BFL  took 13 + months to refund my 530 usd.  They have not been a good company.

 I will also say BFL is not the only shitty company.
 
Black Arrow  has been pretty bad of  late.  
Hashfast never delivered  .  
Avalon and KNC  pulled some nasty shit.

You forgot 1 or 2 others nasty messes - Bitmine.ch and their US affiliate AMT with their A1 chip debacle Don't know if BM.ch has delivered anything but AMT sure has not aside from a few battered & DOA rigs and 2 'kits' that sorta worked for a while.

No refunds in sight or offered and lawsuits in progress. Sound familiar?