MERIT - A DEFINITION OF, RICH PEOPLE BECOME RICHER, POOR PEOPLE MAINTAIN POOR

[CryptoBey]

RIP SPAMMERS.

FTFY

I'm looking past posts of Heros/Legendaries, many of them has spam posts in their beginning of here.
They became high ranks with spam posts, and now telling to ppl "Dont spam!".

You are the one of them. SO shut up

[LTU_btc]

The bitsend airdrop is just an example, for saying all the profit will belong to LEGENDARY.
And no one say about benefit of the campaigns, we are discussing about the unfair system score.
Do you read all member posted here?
And I said once, and I ask you again, Are you sure after this system come out, spam post won't appear?
Talking is our right and why it must be scored?
We are talking our own idea, opinion, thought. So you mean if someone has their own idea but not really help for answering your topic, they don't have right to say?

User fogocut21 posted very good thoughts above, I'm agree with things what he said, but I will try to add some my minds.
I read all posts in this thread and many others threads about Merit and I don't understand, why do you think that merit system is unfair? If you will post good content, you will get Merit points. After Merit system was implemented, you still have right to say what do you want, you are only not guaranteed to get Merit points. It's something similar like upvotes on Steemit.
But still, there will be lot of spam, because theymos had to introduce Merit system or something similar few years ago when spam problem still wasn't that serious as now. But at least, now new members will be not able to rank up by shitposting and they will have to work harder and improve their posts quality.
And actually, for me idea which was proposed by hilariousandco looks better - if you want wear signature, you need to buy membership. It would reduce account farming. But we need at least some months to see, how effective is new Merit system

[TryNinja]

I'm looking past posts of Heros/Legendaries, many of them has spam posts in their beginning of here.
They became high ranks with spam posts, and now telling to ppl "Dont spam!".

You are the one of them. SO shut up

In this case, keyword: past.

Keyword: former. Literally everyone that joined in 2014 or later is a former/current spammer (except nullius, and maybe a few other exceptions). Read Lauda's first posts, my first posts, yahoo's first posts, etc.

But don't worry, I see why you seems so butthurt. The majority of your last posts (7 only yesterday) is "joining X campaign", which is the kind of post that will not get any merit. Thus you won't rank up very soon

[Vod]

Example: if you was in bitcointalk forum a few years ago, you posted a lot of under-quality posts and you earned Legendary Rank, so it is unfair with new people joining this forum now.

It's not unfair.  The first people to a concert get the best seats.  The first people in line get the job.   Why should we kill the early bird?

Currently, Merit system has been questioned a lots. Group of a people, they will cheat by giving each other Merit score, even their posts are spam post. How are you gonna control that devs?

I am working on something on BPIP which will let users easily report Merit they believe has been given disingenuously.  

Before you create thing devs, can we make a vote in all member of this forum?

No, the majority of people in this forum right now are shitposters.

[LeGaulois]

I am working on something on BPIP which will let users easily report Merit they believe has been given disingenuously.  

How often are the stats supposed to be updated on your site?
Because the homepage looks like fresh from yesterday or today but while checking using the member UID I see the last update us n 21 or 22

[yahoo62278]

If you are only worried about campaigns and airdrops, then yes the merit system is not in your favor. If you are interested in learning about bitcoin, reading about how it works, reading about advantages and disadvantages, then this merit system does not matter to you.

So with the above statement, you are likely only worried about the amount of money you can/will earn. It is possible to read and learn while earning a few bits here and there. No reason to have a cow because now you have to contribute to the growth of the forum.

[otrkid70]

I love how all the Paid Sig. Ad spammers are bitching about not being able to Rank up now    Why don't you try Enjoying the forum for what it is instead of trying to milk it for BTC with your Spam   

Your cash Cow has just been butchered and Cooked medium Rare ready to serve. (With a touch of garlic)

Enjoy!

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If you are only worried about campaigns and airdrops, then yes the merit system is not in your favor. If you are interested in learning about bitcoin, reading about how it works, reading about advantages and disadvantages, then this merit system does not matter to you.

So with the above statement, you are likely only worried about the amount of money you can/will earn. It is possible to read and learn while earning a few bits here and there. No reason to have a cow because now you have to contribute to the growth of the forum.

Very well said idol, I always remember a saying about this scenario, it is not your fault if you was born a poor one, its your mistake for letting yourself a poor person until you die. We need to make actions to make things happen accordingly of what we wanted. Because as we are growing, we are learning and acquiring own skills and talents.

[ganlianshifu1]

Looks like the impact of this update is huge!
Many people remain skeptical about the whole update!
I hope the manager can reconsider this update!
What we can't change, we can only do it!

[Durr_1412]

User fogocut21 posted very good thoughts above, I'm agree with things what he said, but I will try to add some my minds.
I read all posts in this thread and many others threads about Merit and I don't understand, why do you think that merit system is unfair? If you will post good content, you will get Merit points. After Merit system was implemented, you still have right to say what do you want, you are only not guaranteed to get Merit points. It's something similar like upvotes on Steemit.
But still, there will be lot of spam, because theymos had to introduce Merit system or something similar few years ago when spam problem still wasn't that serious as now. But at least, now new members will be not able to rank up by shitposting and they will have to work harder and improve their posts quality.
And actually, for me idea which was proposed by hilariousandco looks better - if you want wear signature, you need to buy membership. It would reduce account farming. But we need at least some months to see, how effective is new Merit system
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You say this and I know you don't understand the whole point.

Do you see right now the cheater of Merit Score appear ?

This Merit score will benefit a group of people, they score each other Merit point. And other individual people won't get anything or a long time to gain that merit score from other person.

So what do you say? This Merit system just create more issue beside spam post.

Spam post may be a problem, but at least it will be fair for all people. And now Merit come out, only Legendary has their all profit and people work with group still can spam and get point by their partner and teammates.

How about the individual? Who take care of them?
You???

[The Sceptical Chymist]

TWO LEGENDARY come saying.

I love this, Rich people now defending.

I hope listen to more, and look forward how Newbee say.

For me, I don't care how much of this merit I have.  What I care about is that I will never, EVER give any merit points to a shitposter, and it's a good thing that it's a necessary ingredient for the witches brew rank-up formula.   

Love hearing noob shitposters squealing about this system.

[inillo]

I don't agree with this system.

You are creating the definition of "Rich people maintain rich, poor people will be poor forever."

Example: if you was in bitcointalk forum a few years ago, you posted a lot of under-quality posts and you earned Legendary Rank, so it is unfair with new people joining this forum now.

The new system has some advantages and disadvantages. The main problem was that the forum was being spammed for commercial purposes and some users were "farming" identities. If let alone, this forum would have lost its reason to exist.

However, the system chosen is quite hard on newcomers. We don´t know yet how much merit will be distributed, but my feeling is that even if you make relevant posts, they may very well be ignored and not merited. Getting from member to full member in my case would require 90 merited posts which for me, yet not knowing how much merit will float around, seem to mean that it will take a year or more.

[Durr_1412]

I'm looking past posts of Heros/Legendaries, many of them has spam posts in their beginning of here.
They became high ranks with spam posts, and now telling to ppl "Dont spam!".

You are the one of them. SO shut up

In this case, keyword: past.

So the higher rank like you just like to make more difficult work for new member?

i am thinking what if the new member they spam at the beginning, which everyone does and will get mature time by time. Because the old ranking up system is hard and take time.
A new member want to be a Legendary at all system may take at least 2, 3 years or even more. Is it not enough?

And this Merit system is giving all member has the right to giving merit score and my main point is group of cheater.

You say a lot and do you give me a real solution for that.
And I mean a REAL solution for punishing cheater.
If you're gonna say, the system will improve, then you are not in my point.
We all know that, I am here to rush that, because if you don't have that yet, then don't release the new system.
Wait until you create the anti-cheater then do it.

[Durr_1412]

TWO LEGENDARY come saying.

I love this, Rich people now defending.

I hope listen to more, and look forward how Newbee say.

For me, I don't care how much of this merit I have.  What I care about is that I will never, EVER give any merit points to a shitposter, and it's a good thing that it's a necessary ingredient for the witches brew rank-up formula.   

Love hearing noob shitposters squealing about this system.

Still don't go straight to the point, how about cheaters sir??

Why would you say about shitposter and don't mention about the cheaters?

Is that because you are on safe zone?

Who care about you giving your merit?

I am posting this one and don't expect any merit from you all.

[LogitechMouse]

We are a community here and we joined here in order to learn and not to earn.

Maybe some see this new system as a benefit but some may see this as a problem. We can't do anything about it since we are not the developers. Lets just thank the devs because they created this forum where most if not all of the information about cryptocurrency is here.

In my opinion, I am a full member now and it will be 150 merits away to rank up but I didn't say anything about it. Lets say that some Legendaries now gained their rank because of shitty posts, can we do anything about it? We can't and lets accept it.

With this new merit system, I am at the middle of it. For me, I see this forum as a learning place not a earning place since this forum is created to share information to others. This forum is like an online library for me.

[Durr_1412]

We are a community here and we joined here in order to learn and not to earn.

Maybe some see this new system as a benefit but some may see this as a problem. We can't do anything about it since we are not the developers. Lets just thank the devs because they created this forum where most if not all of the information about cryptocurrency is here.

In my opinion, I am a full member now and it will be 150 merits away to rank up but I didn't say anything about it. Lets say that some Legendaries now gained their rank because of shitty posts, can we do anything about it? We can't and lets accept it.

With this new merit system, I am at the middle of it. For me, I see this forum as a learning place not a earning place since this forum is created to share information to others. This forum is like an online library for me.

I understand you.

However, of course we can do something, even you know it won't be changed.
At least you say and let the developers know this issue and they may or may not concern.

This merit system has a leak and you can check in this Meta forum, some people has discover the Merit cheating.
I am saying here for improve this system to be fair for everyone.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

RIP SPAMMERS.

FTFY

I'm looking past posts of Heros/Legendaries, many of them has spam posts in their beginning of here.
They became high ranks with spam posts, and now telling to ppl "Dont spam!".

You are the one of them. SO shut up

You don't know that for sure, and it doesn't matter anyway if they changed their "spamming" ways.  I suspect most current shitposters would never reform themselves because they are too ignorant and uneducated and unmotivated to do so.  So yeah, hopefully this merit system will be a continuous source of frustration to them.

[otrkid70]

We are a community here and we joined here in order to learn and not to earn.

Maybe some see this new system as a benefit but some may see this as a problem. We can't do anything about it since we are not the developers. Lets just thank the devs because they created this forum where most if not all of the information about cryptocurrency is here.

In my opinion, I am a full member now and it will be 150 merits away to rank up but I didn't say anything about it. Lets say that some Legendaries now gained their rank because of shitty posts, can we do anything about it? We can't and lets accept it.

With this new merit system, I am at the middle of it. For me, I see this forum as a learning place not a earning place since this forum is created to share information to others. This forum is like an online library for me.

You are so full of Shit. Re-Read your own post. You have a Sig. Ad. and you claim you are not here to earn?


WTF you Smoking?

[LogitechMouse]

We are a community here and we joined here in order to learn and not to earn.

Maybe some see this new system as a benefit but some may see this as a problem. We can't do anything about it since we are not the developers. Lets just thank the devs because they created this forum where most if not all of the information about cryptocurrency is here.

In my opinion, I am a full member now and it will be 150 merits away to rank up but I didn't say anything about it. Lets say that some Legendaries now gained their rank because of shitty posts, can we do anything about it? We can't and lets accept it.

With this new merit system, I am at the middle of it. For me, I see this forum as a learning place not a earning place since this forum is created to share information to others. This forum is like an online library for me.

You are so full of Shit. Re-Read your own post. You have a Sig. Ad. and you claim you are not here to earn?


WTF you Smoking?

My bad with the first part.

I didnt say that I am here just to earn and yes I have signature now. My primary reason why I joined here is to learn ok. I joined signature campaign because I see it as a way of earning and this is just a secondary reason

[Maveth13]

Your name suits you and all the nonsense you've said in this thread alone, along with this meme:

I am posting this one and don't expect any merit from you all.

Don't expect any merit at all.