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April 08, 2020, 08:51:23 AM
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Anybody know about bitcoinmixer.org? I've seen a few reviews of them around but nothing on this forum.

They have a thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207828.0. Run a few bounties and after that no activity on their thread. Their account is inactive too. Last seen on Feb 8th.

Yeah I saw that, I just ran across some mentions of them and wondered whether anyone had experiences with them yet as legit or a known scam
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April 08, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
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Yeah I saw that, I just ran across some mentions of them and wondered whether anyone had experiences with them yet as legit or a known scam
Why would you risk using them when they haven't been active for so long? Tongue

Their presence are pretty much null. I haven't even heard of them for so long (including reviews or people talking about them).

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May 03, 2020, 08:09:46 AM
Last edit: May 03, 2020, 08:23:21 AM by LeGaulois
 #183

Update:
Popped up in my RSS, Bitmixer-io.com. Added to my scam list, because... well, it's a scam.
And it uses Bitmixer.io theme to fool people with the old mixer Bitmixer.io closed long ago. As usual, always check the domain name extension and use search engines

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May 07, 2020, 05:34:46 PM
Last edit: September 09, 2020, 03:12:39 PM by coboguard
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Hey LeGaulois, There are also other scams to add to the list here

SCAM: Penguinxmixer.io
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245694.msg54358881

SCAM: Bitcoinmix.org
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240635.msg54225151
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2413192.0

SCAM: Helix-light.com, grams-helix-light.com, helixlightgrams.com
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238537.msg54173358


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May 10, 2020, 08:14:02 AM
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I translated the Chinese version. I hope you don't mind? Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247254.0
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May 11, 2020, 02:23:27 PM
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Update:
Popped up in my RSS, Bitmixer-io.com. Added to my scam list, because... well, it's a scam.
And it uses Bitmixer.io theme to fool people with the old mixer Bitmixer.io closed long ago. As usual, always check the domain name extension and use search engines

Hey LeGaulois, There are also other scams to add to the list here

   
SCAM: [banned mixer], [banned mixer], [banned mixer]
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246071.msg54382394

SCAM: Penguinxmixer.io
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245694.msg54358881

SCAM: Bitcoinmix.org
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240635.msg54225151
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2413192.0

SCAM: Helix-light.com, grams-helix-light.com, helixlightgrams.com
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238537.msg54173358




it's funny that you call our website a scam with your fake comment from other Thread. Never used but talk big Wink

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May 11, 2020, 04:54:09 PM
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@121425366@qq.com

I don't mind, people are free to copy-paste, translate, edit, improve, or whatever they want to do with.

@coboguard

I won't add [banned mixer] to the list of services not recommended. It's difficult to label a service a scam based on only 1 accusation, I've already had people trying to fool me several times in my inbox. It's not as if a dozen of persons were claiming with proofs to get scammed.

Perhaps you jumped too fast on the conclusion, for example, you said in another topic the same BTC address is used. I tried with 2 different browsers and IPs and I got 2 different addresses. The same day @sovie tried the service successfully, so.

As for the other services mentioned, I agree.

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@121425366@qq.com

I don't mind, people are free to copy-paste, translate, edit, improve, or whatever they want to do with.

@coboguard

I won't add [banned mixer] to the list of services not recommended. It's difficult to label a service a scam based on only 1 accusation, I've already had people trying to fool me several times in my inbox. It's not as if a dozen of persons were claiming with proofs to get scammed.

Perhaps you jumped too fast on the conclusion, for example, you said in another topic the same BTC address is used. I tried with 2 different browsers and IPs and I got 2 different addresses. The same day @sovie tried the service successfully, so.

As for the other services mentioned, I agree.

Okay, no worries Wink, I let him trust this proof for the future, maybe judge the service too quickly because it is in development Lips sealed .

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Hi LeGaulois et al. Can I request the minimum amounts to be added to the excellent list you have of reputable bitcoinmixers? For small fry like myself it's real useful information.

This is from my own research. I included american dollars and euros for some perspective. Of course, this is correct only at time of writing. I didn't include the links or fees, you can get all that from the front page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.msg28964833#msg28964833

Chipmixer
Since we don't have chips lower than 0.001 BTC, your deposit will be treated as donation.
0.001BTC = $9.60, €8.60

Bitmix
Amounts below the minimal will be considered as donations.
0.005BTC = $47.70,  €42.50

Bitcoin Cloak
Minimum deposit 0.01 Bitcoins
0.01BTC = $95.40, €85.2

Mixer money
0.001BTC = $9.60, €8.60

[banned mixer]
0.005BTC = $47.70,  €42.50

Blender.io
Minimum deposit 0.01 Bitcoins
If you have accidentally sent lower amount, please turn to our support with an e-mail having your guarantee letter attached. (That's rather nice of them).
0.01BTC = $95.40, €85.2

Foxmixer

minimum 0.002
0.002BTC = $19.20, €17.20

Mixer Tumbler
If you send any amount less than 0.01BTC to the Bitcoin mixer, it will be considered as unfit for mixing. As a result, it will be accepted as a donation to the mixer’s services.
0.01BTC = $95.40, €85.2

Cryptomixer
We consider the smaller transactions to be donations made to our system.
0.001BTC = $9.60, €8.60

My Cryptomixer
Can’t see any info.about a minimum! (Dubious behaviour in my opinion).

I couldn't find "Bitmaximum" on the clear or darknet - this site appears to be down. You probably should remove it from the list! I also didn't explore the minimums for the sudoku wallet and cryptowallet you have on the list. As they offer more services I felt they can't be strictly considered alongside these other services.

Anyway, what's the verdict? Well at moment you need at least ten US dollars to do some mixing. I feel like there's a potential market for something with real low minimums. You know, so your kids can mess with their pocket money.
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June 04, 2020, 12:50:02 PM
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Hi LeGaulois et al. Can I request the minimum amounts to be added to the excellent list you have of reputable bitcoinmixers? For small fry like myself it's real useful information.
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Hi . Thanks for the suggestion and your wish is granted  Grin
However, I didn't add the value in dollars since I can't imagine me updating the original post everyday.

Regarding MyCryptomixer you can figure what the minimum is only when you start to mix, it's then displayed on the page (Send between 0.003 and 0.xx)

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I don't think so, I believe it can be a waste of time and resources. It's like paying your $1 loaf of bread with a debit card while merchants have a minimum of $10 (because of bank & Visa fees).

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Hi, LeGaulois i really like your list of mixers and i would like to suggest you tumbler.to, there is two options of mixing, basic mixer and anonymizer so you can anonymize bitcoins through Monero, check the page there is all the informations.

Name: tumbler.to
Clearnet link: tumbler.to
Tor link: v6nptvetl7zflb5gturfeetcypfng7ueuxsyhcrq33coev4pvnqcjqqd.onion
Bitcointalk thread link: n/a
Fees: Mix bitcoins 1 - 2.5% fee, Anonymize bitcoins 5% fee
Minimum amount: 0.01 BTC but recomended amount is 0.1 BTC
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I will add it. Good luck with your service..


Europol, the law enforcement agency in the EU, for those who do not know, published a report about Wasabi and admitted it is too complicated
"Things are not looking good,” they say.  Cheesy Grin
Because it's difficult to 'demix' transactions...



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June 09, 2020, 06:59:49 AM
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Don't forget to remove Bitmaximum from your list, apparently it is dead and gone.

Otherwise your list seems like a good resource. thanks for your maintenance
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June 09, 2020, 04:31:08 PM
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Removed.
I wanted to wait a few days because I didn't know since when the site was down and considering it could be a maintenance or something like that. Even with Tor, I'm unable to access the site.
RIP this website...

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June 09, 2020, 07:05:49 PM
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I have lately been reading that mixed/tumbled coins are no longer accepted by exchanges or even BitPay.  Is this true?  That might very well make BTC no longer fungible.

If users of anything but "pristine Bitcoin" are not able to cash them in for FIAT or even for large purchases (via BitPay for example), then "some BTC is more equal" than other BTC...
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June 09, 2020, 07:56:51 PM
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You confuse with wallets using the Coinjoin protocol (Wasabi/Samourai).

I don't remember to have ever seen the case of someone in trouble with an exchange platform and a mixer but there are cases when it's about coinjoin. Binance, for example, blocked temporarily an user because he requested a transfer out to a wasabi wallet

https://medium.com/@6102bitcoin/binance-coinjoin-strangeness-6ba7c0cb2dd0
https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-returns-frozen-btc-after-user-promises-not-to-use-coinjoin

Transaction In or Out there is a simple solution for that. To add hops to the transactions Tongue
(at least 6, 12 is better against something/someone with a lot of resources to analyze, a government for example). They're far to be able to find a solution after this

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June 09, 2020, 08:26:33 PM
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You confuse with wallets using the Coinjoin protocol (Wasabi/Samourai).

I don't remember to have ever seen the case of someone in trouble with an exchange platform and a mixer but there are cases when it's about coinjoin. Binance, for example, blocked temporarily an user because he requested a transfer out to a wasabi wallet

https://medium.com/@6102bitcoin/binance-coinjoin-strangeness-6ba7c0cb2dd0
https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-returns-frozen-btc-after-user-promises-not-to-use-coinjoin

Transaction In or Out there is a simple solution for that. To add hops to the transactions Tongue
(at least 6, 12 is better against something/someone with a lot of resources to analyze, a government for example). They're far to be able to find a solution after this


Hi,

Any knowledge about Bit Cloak, I paid for BCH mixing but did not receive any coins, the www site was https://bitcloak.ru/bch/en/mix/ajd289adjk9#mix

Thanks for any info if you have some! I know there is another address to BitCloak. https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/

Any good BCH mixers? Or better to mix BTC.
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June 10, 2020, 12:13:07 PM
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Hello,

yes I'm a newbie but would like to ask a question regarding Bitcloak site. Is that reliable as I did not receive any coins from that one using https://bitcloak.ru/bch/en/mix/ajd289adjk9#mix  . There is another site listed on your Tumblers websites list https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/. Is the other www address a scam or not?

Thanks for any comments!
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June 10, 2020, 12:20:45 PM
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Hello,

yes I'm a newbie but would like to ask a question regarding Bitcloak site. Is that reliable as I did not receive any coins from that one using https://bitcloak.ru/bch/en/mix/ajd289adjk9#mix  . There is another site listed on your Tumblers websites list https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/. Is the other www address a scam or not?

Thanks for any comments!

I think both websites are legit.

It's listed in their ANN thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372290.0)


Announcing BitCloak Mixer
The most advanced Bitcoin mixing technology

Official url:
https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com
https://bitcloak.ru/en


Tor mirror:
http://bitcloak43blmhmn.onion




Feel free to give your concern in their ANN thread.

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June 10, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
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Hello,

yes I'm a newbie but would like to ask a question regarding Bitcloak site. Is that reliable as I did not receive any coins from that one using https://bitcloak.ru/bch/en/mix/ajd289adjk9#mix  . There is another site listed on your Tumblers websites list https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com/. Is the other www address a scam or not?

Thanks for any comments!

I think both websites are legit.

It's listed in their ANN thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372290.0)


Announcing BitCloak Mixer
The most advanced Bitcoin mixing technology

Official url:
https://bitcloak43blmhmn.com
https://bitcloak.ru/en


Tor mirror:
http://bitcloak43blmhmn.onion




Feel free to give your concern in their ANN thread.

Many thanks!! I'll try that.
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