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I think that the best way to mix an altcoin is to do atomic swap with XMR.
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I've seen mixers for altcoins in the past, but can't tell you if they're reliable.
There are plenty!!! ... but all of them are scams.
Interesting. I wonder what is ROI, daily/weekly volume etc in case of BTC mixers and how it is related to the market cap. Entry threshold? Do these numbers make altcoins mixers unprofitable or there is just no need for them? BCH has around only 0.5% of BTC market capitalization, but is it the answer?
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June 26, 2023, 05:33:55 PM |
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Man, update the thread link for [banned mixer] (they lost control of the old account and created a new account and a new thread). At the moment, I also keep in touch with them (let me know in case you have additional questions). We have returned! 🐱 Unfortunately, we have lost access to the old account, so from now on this is our official Bitcointalk account. Please keep in mind that in case of disputes, you should send a letter of guarantee ONLY to our e-mail or telegram bot. Contacts: https://t.me/MixyMoneyBot, [banned mixer](at)proton.me
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June 26, 2023, 06:57:28 PM |
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Are there any mixers for other coins than Bitcoin, for example BCH? How it would work with ETH?
There are several mixers for ethereum (similar like tornado cash), but there is already monero that has built in ''mixer'' that is much better than any other centralized shitcoin mixing service. I think that litecoin also introduced mimblewimble for better privacy, and bch has cashfusion mixing with electrum cash wallet, but I don't think volume is very good. If you want to mix ethereum it's best to atomic swap it with monero and than maybe swap in bitcoin.
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June 26, 2023, 10:45:03 PM |
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Man, update the thread link for [banned mixer] (they lost control of the old account and created a new account and a new thread).
Everything is up to date Sir. Not only the thread link, but the onion URL and the fees. I noticed the onion URLs aren't the same, and the Telegram too, but there are surely reasons. (Suggestion: the website is still displaying their old ANN topic's link) I'm sure the demand for altcoins mixers is near too zero, hence we've have never seen them growing Bitcoin tumbler can be a very very profitable business if you have something new to offer compared to others. The volume is very fluctuating but hard to say based on what. I would love if mixers could give some data to play with and then make statistics (I like stats and mathematics) but I'm just dreaming. I know none of them can do that
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June 30, 2023, 07:53:01 AM |
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Cant reach https://[banned mixer]. Has been the case for a while now.
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June 30, 2023, 12:36:58 PM Last edit: July 03, 2023, 01:04:16 PM by LeGaulois |
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Edit: the website is back online ____________________ ...
Hi I was there a few days ago. Surely because the website is again under a DDOS attack. Quoting myself: The website was fighting with a huge DDOS attack and since they refuse absolutely to use any MITM service (Cloudflare and co.) The .onion URL is working fine currently
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July 02, 2023, 10:47:41 AM |
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Hi I was there a few days ago. Surely because the website is again under a DDOS attack. Quoting myself: The website was fighting with a huge DDOS attack and since they refuse absolutely to use any MITM service (Cloudflare and co.) The .onion URL is working fine currently Taking this long to get it running. Still cant access it. EDIT: yep seems onion is running fine.
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July 04, 2023, 02:35:52 AM Last edit: July 04, 2023, 03:44:24 AM by LeGaulois |
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A new mixer in the town, Thormixer⭐Name: Thormixer🔹Clearnet link: https://www.[banned mixer]/ 🔹Tor link: amwnnncglaw27kfomeiszq4eltwkktnkdzjg6kbtjwb2w3zgysatjead.onion 🔹Fees: 4% + 0.0007 BTC 🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC 🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC not using our dear friend Cloudflare. The code is Python, HTML and CSS, no JS. Offshore server outside of the 5-9- 14 Eyes alliances. Minimum and Maximum amount Can anyone help me to complete this? I've forgotten the numbers since this afternoon, and I can't open the website. (machine with parental control )Not needed anymore. TY
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July 14, 2023, 03:00:38 PM |
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A new mixer in the town, Thormixer
This is just an alert I discovered that the site is offline today (both the clearnet and Tor mirror, which somehow rules out the possibility of a DDoS attack). I am not sure how long it has been off but let's give it some days or weeks and see if it will be back up.
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July 15, 2023, 03:16:31 AM Last edit: July 23, 2023, 05:11:32 PM by Thormixer |
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A new mixer in the town, Thormixer
This is just an alert I discovered that the site is offline today (both the clearnet and Tor mirror, which somehow rules out the possibility of a DDoS attack). I am not sure how long it has been off but let's give it some days or weeks and see if it will be back up. The site is online. Clearnet and onion. But im working on the web to improve the service and some parts will be unstable throughout some days. Don't worry, it will be completely online again soon. Be patient please. Thanks. not using our dear friend Cloudflare. We activated Cloudflare after a rude DDoS attack that we could only endure for a few days. It is temporary while I look for another solution, but I wanted to inform you here.
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LeGaulois (OP)
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August 02, 2023, 11:44:39 PM |
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An additional detail will be added to each site to find out who is using clouflare & co. Not a bad idea, isn't?. It's a point that may be important for some people, so why not, eh Reminder: So far, [banned mixer] is the only one which has always refused to embrace a solution, with all the risks that this may represent for some people. Me, years ago: Between blackmail extorsions, I even suspect that some Mixers attack other Mixers, among other methods they use
Me, a few days ago: There is definitely a tendancy recently to attack the bitcoin mixers, and more than usual
Still avalaible nowadays, no matter if the service is new or old. If you follow the niche, you know who has been hit. (Sinbad, Whirlwind, ...) I bring some facts I collected here and there the last few days - "There are about 4 or 5 services facing a ddos attack the last few days. It means ~30% of the market. " - It doesn't matter if the site is old (a contender) or a newcomer (not a serious contender yet). Thormixer is the perfect example. As soon as it appeared on the scene, it was attacked. - The tendancy to DDOS mixers started a few days after Chipmixer was shut down (confirmed by more than 1 guy) Make your own opinion but I have an adage: follow the money
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August 03, 2023, 06:11:31 AM |
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- The tendancy to DDOS mixers started a few days after Chipmixer was shut down (confirmed by more than 1 guy) Don't forget that CM was often plagued by DDOS too. It was the reason they gave up on the clearnet version entirely. There is definitely a tendancy recently to attack the bitcoin mixers, and more than usual Even loyce.club had a DDOS last month. For all I know it's the DDOS protection companies doing it Mob style, offering "protection"
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August 03, 2023, 11:22:53 PM |
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True for CM And who was alive during these periods, and who is still alive nowadays But now the question is: is it possible to run a BTC mixer without using third-party companies? The attacks are pretty severe and despite spending hours trying to fight them off on their own, they are not able. So much so that they've given up and turned to cloudflare/ddos-guard. DDos a site doesn't cost that much. It was a bit expensive 15-20 years ago, but nowadays for ~1500 euros, I can take your site down for a whole month. You can imagine the damages if I ruin your business for 1 month. Even loyce.club had a DDOS last month. Interesting... (Are you aware if @Tryninja and others dudes have been hit too?)
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August 04, 2023, 10:33:47 AM Last edit: August 04, 2023, 04:47:21 PM by anonymixer |
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But now the question is: is it possible to run a BTC mixer without using third-party companies?
The Anonymixer clearnet website was fine yesterday, but today is under another 100,000+ unique IP DDoS attack again, apologies for the inconvenience. The clearnet site should be back up by the end of today is up, without help from Cloudflare, DDOS-Guard or any other third party service. It would take just one secretive subpoena from US Government to force Cloudflare to silently collect all traffic for 12 out of 17 mixers on this list, eavesdropping and destroying privacy for their users and similarly little pressure from "International Partners" to force DDOS-Guard to do the same for the remaining 4. UPDATE: Clearnet site is back up - hope the 100k+ strong botnet enjoys it
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Updated with - @mocacinno's topic link on Mixers using cloudflare's SSL certificate added - Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes or No added. (Ddos-guard.net goes in the same bag as Cloudflare to me. They're both potential MITM attack vectors) - Whirlwind.money removed to summarize what happened with Whirlwind (if someone isn't aware) So, to summarize(and correct me if I got anything wrong): - The website isn't profitable (yet)
- Deposits are working
- The website claims to pay a very high 12% APR on deposits
- The daily awards aren't always being added
- Withdrawals stopped working 5 days ago
- The signature campaign payments happen off-chain and thus can't be withdrawn now
- User whirlwindmoney hasn't been here for more than a month
- Support doesn't respond to inquiries
No matter what the reason is, this looks bad.
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August 18, 2023, 04:48:27 AM |
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The Anonymixer clearnet website was fine yesterday, but today is under another 100,000+ unique IP DDoS attack again, apologies for the inconvenience.
I am not a network engineer but isn't it possible using an industrial router to collect all of those IPs from web server logs, and add all 100k IPs to its firewall at once without significant performance penalties? Maybe if there are hardware load balancers, they can be used so that the routers are not overwhelmed.
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August 18, 2023, 10:45:47 PM |
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IPs keep changing There are so many IPs to compromise and so many IPs rotating during a DDOS. Look at web hosting companies advertising their DDOS protection in their web hosting package. If you're under attack too seriously they will kick you out without asking your opinion. There is always a limit to not cross Cloudflare itself buy IP lists from companies to complete their own
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Synchronice
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August 19, 2023, 04:57:52 PM |
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I've seen mixers for altcoins in the past, but can't tell you if they're reliable.
There are plenty!!! ... but all of them are scams.
Interesting. I wonder what is ROI, daily/weekly volume etc in case of BTC mixers and how it is related to the market cap. Entry threshold? Do these numbers make altcoins mixers unprofitable or there is just no need for them? BCH has around only 0.5% of BTC market capitalization, but is it the answer? If we keep in mind that chipmixer was able to pay thousands of dollars per week for promoting their business on this forum, then we should assume that their volume and income is very high. According to news websites, it's believed that more than 150,000 bitcoins have been laundered on chipmixer. They weren't chargin regular fees, like 0.5%, 1% or something like that, they were absolutely free to use but instead they had fixed chip size, for example - 0.001 BTC chip, 0.002, 0.005, 0.01BTC, something like this. So, if you were to deposit 0.0012 bitcoins, you would get 0.001BTC and 0.0002BTC would be a donation from your side. Also, in order to increase your anonimity, you could lessen your bitcoins by donating some of them, probably a lot of people were doing that. They were also offering provably fair betting with chips. So, yeah, they had a great business model and were making tons of money. Majority of exchanges charge fixed fee and also let you to choose certain range of fee in order to increase your anonimity. I bet exchanges should be earning between 1-3% from each deposit. It's a pretty good business even with a weekly volume of 10 BTC.
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Looking to track a new way scammers are exploring Does anyone know what the following syntax means exactly /^https?:\/\/[0-9a-z]*\.?[-0-9a-z]{4,}\.[a-z]{2,11}\/(?:[0-9a-z]{6,8}\/)?\/?\?u=[0-9a-z]{7}&o=[0-9a-z]{7}/$document,match-case ^ is the start of a string [0-9a-z] to match any character from a-z or 0-9 [a-z]{2,11} to match any character from a-z but the length range must between 2 to 11 $ is the end of the string but I'm confused with <$document,match-case>, especially at the end of a string. That's something related to Python, but I don't get what's it's supposed to match. I mean obviously a document, but how you can "match case" a document in a url opened in a browser (or a list)? Not even sure if I'm clear
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