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4 btc/$560 cost basis for 10gh + starting difficulty 88,000,000 + only 15% per difficulty increase = $27 profit after 12 months. No go.
Mining is dead, long live mining!
What calculations for % gain in BTC price? Sorry for the tangent of the thread... but I feel it's relevant. If you spend 4BTC, and it never returns 4BTC... then who cares what USD price of BTC is? The less than 4BTC you earn with the hardware will never be worth as much as the 4BTC spent for the hardware, no matter what the price of BTC is... This alone is reason enough. . . . and there is more. . . AM had the chance to crush the competition and dominated the market by supplying hardware at competitive prices. If they had focused on an expanded supply line and competing on price. They could have owned asic production and created an economy of scale with much more long term profit, but instead they focused on maximizing their short term profit. This in turn left room in the market for another 4-6 companies to pop up. This is good for customers, but truly bad news for AM. etc..etc.. So go ahead AM, keep on keeping on. Then one day there will be no customers left. . .imho g' luck am was making 2500%+ profit margin on their blades, the industry leader apple is making around 30% and that's considered extremely high. am knows exactly what they are doing. Why sell 5000 blades when you can sell 200 and achieve the same profit. They have continued to be the market leader in term of actual gh/$ delivered. It sucks for the clueless miners buying into their hardware that barely roi anything, but it does not suck to be am. Kind of ironic you edit out the paragraph about the fan boi response and play right into it. . .well done
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September 04, 2013, 06:51:35 AM |
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These new Blades - they support LP/work restart? So they can work with p2pool?
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September 04, 2013, 08:10:22 AM |
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These new Blades - they support LP/work restart? So they can work with p2pool?
The old ones work with p2pool, so why wouldn't the new ones?
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September 04, 2013, 08:48:32 AM |
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These new Blades - they support LP/work restart? So they can work with p2pool?
The old ones work with p2pool, so why wouldn't the new ones? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283458.msg3077867#msg3077867Seems the new ones are effectively no real difference to the old ones ... except limited to a lower speed ... i.e. still only GetWork
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September 04, 2013, 09:22:48 AM |
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These new Blades - they support LP/work restart? So they can work with p2pool?
Ancient technology...hmm yuk !
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September 04, 2013, 01:07:26 PM |
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These new Blades - they support LP/work restart? So they can work with p2pool?
The old ones work with p2pool, so why wouldn't the new ones? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283458.msg3077867#msg3077867Seems the new ones are effectively no real difference to the old ones ... except limited to a lower speed ... i.e. still only GetWork I would almost rather have the old blades then, I do like the backplane on the new ones though!
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September 04, 2013, 10:53:21 PM |
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@candoo Sarcasm..... right?
Well he didn't answer your question. We all know you get a FREE backplane when you buy 10. We do not know if they will be available for purchase individually.
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September 04, 2013, 11:05:35 PM |
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Im sorry but Im still not seeing prices for bulk orders. Am I missing a post somewhere?
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September 05, 2013, 05:04:20 PM |
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We do not know if they will be available for purchase individually. My question as well.
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September 06, 2013, 04:50:18 PM |
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Why do the new blades have 16 spots for surface mount electrolytics that are unpopulated? Could they run faster or have better stability with them (cleaner power)? Was this a design decision made for cost reduction? If you added these could you overclock to old blade speeds (12Gh+)? Just curious really.
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September 06, 2013, 04:51:43 PM |
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Has anyone heard from FC about placing orders for these ?
Looking to pick up 10 for myself. Are they shipping yet ?
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September 06, 2013, 06:09:58 PM |
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Can someone please talk to me like I'm an eight year old and tell me what kind power adapter I can use on these blades? I can't find a simple example or google any of these with any certainty. Or give me the link if there are already pictures somewhere.
I see the bladecomes with:
1. Original power connector - which would be what? 2. Plug-able gold fingers? - are those like the what GPU's have that plugs into a pci slot on a motherboard? If so, then I need to find an adapter from my PSU's 6/8 pin PCI-E cable right? And where would I find those if that's the case. 3. Will my 650W ATX work with this and what's the easiest way to hook it up?
And the Backplane- 1. Cable-based connector? 2. "A Slot for widely available psu's?" Again, these are not google words, is there name for this connection?
And I know I can buy these PSUs (Part Number: HP DPS 800GBA or ATSN 7001044-Y000). But I already have some sitting around.
Thanks to whoever can help.
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September 06, 2013, 06:13:33 PM |
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September 07, 2013, 01:03:26 AM |
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oh wow, looks pretty nice!~..
i wonder how efficient server PSU's are, i doubt data centers really care about how much electricity they use
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September 07, 2013, 01:47:28 AM |
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$825 for 10GH.......Wow,at least 4 months for ROI......@ current diff...... They are nice,& in stock.......but the price has to come down still.Not tryin to piss anyone off,just sayin
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"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan
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September 07, 2013, 03:49:36 AM |
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oh wow, looks pretty nice!~..
i wonder how efficient server PSU's are, i doubt data centers really care about how much electricity they use
I have 2 of these 220V server power supplies (no idea what PSU really stands for, and that's fine with me), and they have no fan and they have 8 guage wires going to them and wow, they seems efficient compared to the black box PSU devil tatoo'd XTREME!!!! Brand of PSU that I got at the PC builder shop. The 220 power supplies are a bit trickier to setup, but no more breakers busting up twice a day, it's just solidly hashing away at moderate temperatures. I wonder if anyone can tell me what a laser beam IR remote temperature reader gun thingy should cost. Like what should I pay?
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September 07, 2013, 04:02:38 AM |
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This type of server PSU is roughly 80-85% eff. IR heat guns can be from £15-25 retail.
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September 07, 2013, 04:14:08 AM |
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$825 for 10GH.......Wow,at least 4 months for ROI......@ current diff...... They are nice,& in stock.......but the price has to come down still.Not tryin to piss anyone off,just sayin Please feel free to make an offer on Ebay. If you happen to make the highest offer, you might win the auction. I ship by FedEx Priority. I think to the states, it's overnight delivery - quite some amazing logistics. You should see my Ebay feedback, some guy ordered from UK and FedEx got it there in 2 days - impressive! I think someone should make a mining pool, and add a percentage thingy so you can donate so some good charities. Like at Bitminter, I pay 0.5% so I can see my mining activity on my iFone, But I would like to give like 3.14159265% to United Way, or fuckcancer.com, or some universally good cause.
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