Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit

[lucas2008]

Merit was made to determine one's post quality.
If someone buys and sells merit it means that he abuses the system.
I can guess that Merit trading is forbidden and those who try to trade Merit will probably get their thread to be deleted.

Merit also very helpful as it gives users the option to thank other users for their posts.
An ability that wasn't available before.

I agree, the problem is the meaning of the post with many users, but buying merit is abusive.

[Rocktop044]

It is currently difficult to get merits. I think the merit system should be reviewed.

[Rocktop044]

It is currently difficult to earn merits. I think the merit system should be reviewed.

[asyakashi]

Merit was made to determine one's post quality.
If someone buys and sells merit it means that he abuses the system.
I can guess that Merit trading is forbidden and those who try to trade Merit will probably get their thread to be deleted.

Merit also very helpful as it gives users the option to thank other users for their posts.
An ability that wasn't available before.

I agree, the problem is the meaning of the post with many users, but buying merit is abusive.

Merit has made new members stuck with their rank.
this is very difficult and seems unfair. old members are more benefited with this system.

[Daboy_Lyle]

It is currently difficult to earn merits. I think the merit system should be reviewed.

Yes it is. Buying and selling merits isn't allowed. Only merit a that's good enough and don't merit a post that you only agreed Theymos said.  When you are posting make sure you're that you don't made an error.

[nitrocryptonitro]

This whole place has just turned into a shithole, where posters pretend to defend the "marvellous" MERIT System, by praising it, telling everyone how wonderful of an implementation it is, and in fact secretly wishing to be merited for their moronic intervention.
That's why we have tons of posts explaining, with the exact same terms "meaningful" "constructive" "contribute" "smart" "active", like bots posting copy-cats posts by thousands, why they understood the system (and maybe trying to throw a tongue for a small licking-your-ass session) and how hard they'll do their best to follow those rules.
It's like a sect with members mumbling their mantra.
And, well, some of them succeed in being merited that way, that's the funny part.
In the same time, we now have a kind of KGB-like inquisition, whose role is to denounce queue-jumpers...

But where the fuck is that cypher-punk state of mind from the beginning ?

I really really miss the original state of mind of that forum, back in 2011.

Maybe I was just dreaming at that time, and I have solely opened my eyes now ?

[yesyoupump]

Great post. I noted a better quality of posts like your one.

I hope Merits circulating will increase in future to help also bad profiles like mine to earn someone 

[Srujan007]

I think the introduction of this system was a good decision since many people are way too eager to rank up and sometimes they post just for the sake of posting without really feeling the need to add something to the discussion. At the same time though I think this system is not very fair to new members. Newbies and Jr. Members are often treated poorly and not taken seriously, not many people will ever consider giving merit to a Newbie for example. I recently discovered the crypto community and now I'm here to stay so this thing won't affect me too much but from what I've seen merits are not always given fairly

Yeah i agree with this, i am trying to help the newbies here but as you said the new system is not fair for Jr.members as merits aren't given fairly.

[BitBite5]

Merit system was good idea but unfortunately like everything very quickly people have found the way how to abuse it.
It's completely wrong to buy/sell merit and by such actions it  has lost any sense but I also can't think of some way this could be put under control. I guess it's on the concious of every forum member.

[annango]

merit system don't work.. for example i write a lot of translation for a lot of project and make some guide but none of this post was merited... so my possibility to go up in the rank it's 0..

Looking at your post here, it's pretty obvious why you're not earning it.  Your English sucks, and if you're writing like this in other sections don't expect any.  Not sure what translations have to do with merit earning either, or why you even care about it.  Did you come here for the chat or to rank up?  What are you complaining about?

You'll never catch me complaining about the merit system, or even about sales.  Those people will burn themselves out eventually and the merit tap will run dry.

Having an informative or useful post does not mean you'll get a merit.  I've seen exceptional posts that did not even get a single merit. It's like you'll have more chances getting hit with a lightning than getting a merit here so it's not surprising that members are thinking ways where they can get merits faster.

I partly agree with you guy.There is no doubt that merit is a helpful tool in this forum, giving – receiving among user and the writer maybe show the appreciation or grateful for answering. Often, people in this forum has the perpective that one can get merit with highly quality posting, but I think it’s not really like that.  It’s rather a tough way for one to get merit. Yep, perhaps if one can earn merit, it’s because  you are lucky enough to be seen your posts and give you merit. Besides, almost people who got a big amount of merit, they’re much more likely to get better, because always the readers strongly believe and focus on their posting. Thus buying merit is not really an abuse, but it's one's intelegence because they know how to get merit faster.

[Cryptoratty]

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

As stated above the new merit system for upgrading account would further ensure quality posts and prevent the influx of spam account creators on here but on the other hand it would further deter new members of this forum who are really interested in contributing as these merits can only be allocated to member by other members based on the allocators discretion on whether the post is worthy of a merit or not. In my opinion the moderators should have being the ones in charge of awarding these merits where every reasonable post can be automatically awarded and irrelevant posts ignored. I have a recent case of a friend who resulted to posting bounty articles on here to further boost his rank but got not even a single merit as no one really cares about those posts and/or most people wouldn't want to give out their hard earned merits just like that.

[vik254]

The beauty is  that  the  regulators  will  continue  improving  the  system thus  cabbing such  issues. all  we  need  is  time we  are  still  in  the  early  stages  and  we  are  prone  to  such  issues.

[futureofeth]

Merit was made to determine one's post quality.
If someone buys and sells merit it means that he abuses the system.
I can guess that Merit trading is forbidden and those who try to trade Merit will probably get their thread to be deleted.

Merit also very helpful as it gives users the option to thank other users for their posts.
An ability that wasn't available before.

I agree, the problem is the meaning of the post with many users, but buying merit is abusive.

Merit has made new members stuck with their rank.
this is very difficult and seems unfair. old members are more benefited with this system.

Nobody didn't expect form Bitcointalk but we have to obey their TOS before posting anything. Yes, now it is very difficult for the Newbies to become members and even though they are posting quality content people are not getting any merits for it.

[the13thsymphony]

The problem here is that the attitude of the new members that are willing to pay for merit instead of earning it, as most of the would want to get profits quickly while sacrificing quality on their work which is the main reason the merit system was implemented. Also the members who give merit to other members are quite few as I have seen very good topics and post that were not awarded with merit just because members will not get something from it.

[Marlo0619]

Merit is for the people who post something that is a quality post. That means it is better than the other posts. Merit should not be shared to anyone who uses bitcoin because it is a reward for him for posting something that is unique and that have a sense. I think merit trading, buying and selling is not a goos idea because it's just like people who post dont take it seriously because they can get a merit without even posting better reply. Merit trading should not be approved and those who trade, buy and sell must be banned.

[Ulfatron]

Merit trading is definitely an unacceptable practice. Given how hard it is to get any merit I think that the cut off point for where you need merit points should be at member not a junior member.

A lot of people are stuck at junior member as it is now. Obviously they would be stuck at member in stead, but that seems fair to me.

[Branko]

Merit trading is definitely an unacceptable practice. Given how hard it is to get any merit I think that the cut off point for where you need merit points should be at member not a junior member.

A lot of people are stuck at junior member as it is now. Obviously they would be stuck at member in stead, but that seems fair to me.

maybe that seems fair to you, but I bet members would find it unfair, and ask for cut off at full member

[Mahanton]

Merit trading is definitely an unacceptable practice. Given how hard it is to get any merit I think that the cut off point for where you need merit points should be at member not a junior member.

A lot of people are stuck at junior member as it is now. Obviously they would be stuck at member in stead, but that seems fair to me.

maybe that seems fair to you, but I bet members would find it unfair, and ask for cut off at full member

Its just right to have that kind of cut-off so the forum wont really be flooded by new members just to sign up and join up bounty campaigns or abusing giveaways and other related stuff. Actually I do see your merit history and seems like you do have lots of friends passing up merit for sometime its quite shady.

[bennypagulayan]

Merit was made to determine one's post quality.
If someone buys and sells merit it means that he abuses the system.
I can guess that Merit trading is forbidden and those who try to trade Merit will probably get their thread to be deleted.

Merit also very helpful as it gives users the option to thank other users for their posts.
An ability that wasn't available before.

I agree, the problem is the meaning of the post with many users, but buying merit is abusive.

Merit has made new members stuck with their rank.
this is very difficult and seems unfair. old members are more benefited with this system.

I believe "truth" and "purity" always win here.
Although it is unfair to the members together
But it is certain that people who bring good value to the community are welcome. Is not it you?
Who help me then help me again. Who gave me the good thing also.
So we should not be too hard on ourselves.
To live is to love and to smile that is called life.

[Intensity13.6]

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

You are right. Merit can help everyone to become more knowledgeable by posting with quality and informative topics/posts. It will reduced none sense topic and can stop forum member to create account just do spamming and trolling. It is difficult to earn merit but it was very helpful.