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August 18, 2018, 04:32:13 PM
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It is not just given simply as there are things that will affect the merits like your posts.
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August 18, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
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Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!


The merit system launched by BTT does indeed lead to trade. Before launching merit, in fact I did not agree with that, because it would cause new problems later. It is better for standby moderators to delete less useful posts and treads. This will be an added value if you have to apply a merit system that is effective. As a result there is a lot of merit trading.
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August 18, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
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Anorak forum has great system of achievements that could be better used to measure attractiveness of your posts...I'll give you an example:

I made post about mining BIOS on Bitcointalk forum where I shared what is basically best bios for RX560 cards, and gave it for free in BTT post.

800+ people dowloaded it, I got 0 merit

On Anorak forum, I'd get (automatically) lots of stars for most clicked link, most read post, most commented post etc

And maybe even some stars for people who would press "thanks" button (that cost them nothing, unlike limited smerit here)


Then, based on overall profile, it could be measured if you deserve better rank or not
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August 19, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
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Anorak forum has great system of achievements that could be better used to measure attractiveness of your posts...I'll give you an example:

I made post about mining BIOS on Bitcointalk forum where I shared what is basically best bios for RX560 cards, and gave it for free in BTT post.

800+ people dowloaded it, I got 0 merit

On Anorak forum, I'd get (automatically) lots of stars for most clicked link, most read post, most commented post etc

And maybe even some stars for people who would press "thanks" button (that cost them nothing, unlike limited smerit here)


Then, based on overall profile, it could be measured if you deserve better rank or not

I think they aren't sure that if they give the merit, they will receive it back or not, so they just come and get your useful sharing without being thankful. I think 800+ users using your tips have no heart for sure.
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August 19, 2018, 04:58:41 PM
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Anorak forum has great system of achievements that could be better used to measure attractiveness of your posts...I'll give you an example:

I made post about mining BIOS on Bitcointalk forum where I shared what is basically best bios for RX560 cards, and gave it for free in BTT post.

800+ people dowloaded it, I got 0 merit

On Anorak forum, I'd get (automatically) lots of stars for most clicked link, most read post, most commented post etc

And maybe even some stars for people who would press "thanks" button (that cost them nothing, unlike limited smerit here)


Then, based on overall profile, it could be measured if you deserve better rank or not

Splendid idea indeed and much more fair the merit system was introduced simply to curb the influx of non english speakers spamming using google translate well are well
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August 20, 2018, 09:03:54 AM
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It determines the quality and the also the quality of the post importantly.
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August 21, 2018, 08:44:38 PM
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There is a procedure and the merit will go to the ones where it is needed.
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August 22, 2018, 10:57:07 PM
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So in.a very clear and affirmative way, how can one get merit after upgrading to Jr member?
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August 23, 2018, 04:27:26 AM
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Selling and buying merit should now be allowed here because it's very unfair to us who work hard for it. We almost think hard something that can help in this community for the sake of merits then there some members here that using money to gain it easily. I suggest to permanently ban those members who is abusing the merit system and also those members that using duplicate or multiple accounts because they're using their own merit to level their own second account which is also very unfair to us. I really don't understand why multiple accounts here is now illegal.
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August 23, 2018, 04:42:57 AM
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So in.a very clear and affirmative way, how can one get merit after upgrading to Jr member?
It depends on your post. You can read the merit FAQ here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0
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August 23, 2018, 11:31:12 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2018, 03:30:00 PM by DeepestOnion
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The problem of trading merit is not only due to the people eager to buy it, but also to some of the high ranking people who got a lot of smerits to start with which they would have never managed to get by the way of their REAL merit. The low quality of some of these people is now confirmed by the fact that they are selling those smerits which they didn't deserve at all. They would never sell them if they had earned them by the way of good posting.
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August 24, 2018, 12:28:45 PM
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merit distribution is only for those who have higher rank on the forum. I think inorder to be fair to all. Merit system should be given only by moderators they will have the power to distribute the merit in the forum. Currently, those higher ranks are just given merit to their own account and to their friends account. The purpose of this system was defeated.
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August 24, 2018, 09:12:07 PM
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merit distribution is only for those who have higher rank on the forum. I think inorder to be fair to all. Merit system should be given only by moderators they will have the power to distribute the merit in the forum. Currently, those higher ranks are just given merit to their own account and to their friends account. The purpose of this system was defeated.

I would advise you to make that suggestions on the proper thread.

If you have proof that higher account rank is merit trading/farming to  their own alt or friend's account then make proper accusations so that moderators can weight on your evidence and properly tag them, otherwise its pure hearsay and accusations without any basis, so it doesn't have any weight.

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August 26, 2018, 11:37:30 PM
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Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!


The merit system launched by BTT does indeed lead to trade. Before launching merit, in fact I did not agree with that, because it would cause new problems later. It is better for standby moderators to delete less useful posts and treads. This will be an added value if you have to apply a merit system that is effective. As a result there is a lot of merit trading.
Your idea might be good, but the moderator's work becomes more difficult. merit only helps detect and assess members who are worthy of rising rank and that's a positive step. the negative impacts are many of them are buying and selling merit or injustice for new members.

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August 27, 2018, 05:18:18 AM
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yes you are right this cannot be sold or bought in this forum, because the function of this merit has the purpose that this forum can be better when conveying information so if you want to merit you should be able to improve the quality of the posts you write here.
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August 27, 2018, 06:20:03 AM
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can you discuss to me what is merit all about? thankyou Smiley

It is already being said in the OP and to reiterate it, sMerit is a point system given to you by any other members on this forum that means your post is very helpful and constructive. Without Merits, you can't ranked up anymore unlike those previous days that only your activity and post are needed to rank up.

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August 27, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
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Where is the satisfaction and reward for quality posting if you can just buy merits? Merits should be about the acknowledgement of your efforts by your peers, not about how much money you can throw at it.

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August 28, 2018, 04:03:17 AM
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But what if we all start on 0 merit? Even if you are a senior, hero or legendary account. Let see who will reign and go on top? The high rank is already got advantage from lower bracket like us. Some high ranked is useless too when in comes of quality and constructive post.

What about dmerit ( delete merit ) lol ? Just adding some options.
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August 28, 2018, 04:49:44 AM
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This merit system is to determine the quality of post and avoid spam it also a tool to rank up but sometimes those merit can be abused by selling them and also by the bias merit provider that is the DT members. Cause when you give merit to someone they might report your account or put some red flag. So basically adding merit to someone is impossible.

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August 28, 2018, 04:54:14 AM
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merit trading is not very good, it should be able to get merit, you have to be able to correct the sentence that you gave in this forum, fix the post that you gave and try to be useful, then you can get merit.

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