Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit

[tippytoes]

I think merit system is very good thinking by admin of bitcointalk.org. By merit system anybody can know his posting quality when another person give merit for his quality post.

But if anybody misuse this merit and sell it by money its fully opposite of forum rules and regulation and i think it should be punishment for that.

There's already a punishment as tagging the account of merit abusers. It's not easy to spot it however, if its blatantly obviously at some point, DT members will not be hesitant to give that account a red paint. However, I'm not really sure about the red trust is effective though, because if you go around bounties, there are still campaigns accepting participants even though they have a red trust.

Merit abusers will always be here as most of them are after for what they will earn if they will rank up. If you are not greedy, you will just do your job and use the community to your advantage. Learn more about the world of crypto and maybe, contribute to this community if you already have something that you can share with.

[Elexsis]

I think merit system is very good thinking by admin of bitcointalk.org. By merit system anybody can know his posting quality when another person give merit for his quality post.

But if anybody misuse this merit and sell it by money its fully opposite of forum rules and regulation and i think it should be punishment for that.

There's already a punishment as tagging the account of merit abusers. It's not easy to spot it however, if its blatantly obviously at some point, DT members will not be hesitant to give that account a red paint. However, I'm not really sure about the red trust is effective though, because if you go around bounties, there are still campaigns accepting participants even though they have a red trust.

Merit abusers will always be here as most of them are after for what they will earn if they will rank up. If you are not greedy, you will just do your job and use the community to your advantage. Learn more about the world of crypto and maybe, contribute to this community if you already have something that you can share with.

Most of us here are after to the, as what we have the SMerit which I don't think it is very helpful, because we can't deny the fact that some of us here are trading their merits. But there's a good thing for this merit system brings to us, one of these is to control the population of new users in this thread and to avoid multiple accounts.

[Jating]

I think merit system is very good thinking by admin of bitcointalk.org. By merit system anybody can know his posting quality when another person give merit for his quality post.

But if anybody misuse this merit and sell it by money its fully opposite of forum rules and regulation and i think it should be punishment for that.

There's already a punishment as tagging the account of merit abusers. It's not easy to spot it however, if its blatantly obviously at some point, DT members will not be hesitant to give that account a red paint. However, I'm not really sure about the red trust is effective though, because if you go around bounties, there are still campaigns accepting participants even though they have a red trust.

Merit abusers will always be here as most of them are after for what they will earn if they will rank up. If you are not greedy, you will just do your job and use the community to your advantage. Learn more about the world of crypto and maybe, contribute to this community if you already have something that you can share with.

This is the very reason why merit was put into place in the beginning, to really deter newbies from joining bounty campaigns because they are notorious for their shit posting which the mods and admins doesn't like.

Red trust might help but I'm still seeing a lot of members with red trust still carrying signatures and are in a bounty campaign. So this abuse of merit trading/selling will continue, so we need to be very vigilant. And if we noticed something fishy then I urge everyone to report it as well.

[imstillthebest]

I think merit system is very good thinking by admin of bitcointalk.org. By merit system anybody can know his posting quality when another person give merit for his quality post.

But if anybody misuse this merit and sell it by money its fully opposite of forum rules and regulation and i think it should be punishment for that.

There's already a punishment as tagging the account of merit abusers. It's not easy to spot it however, if its blatantly obviously at some point, DT members will not be hesitant to give that account a red paint. However, I'm not really sure about the red trust is effective though, because if you go around bounties, there are still campaigns accepting participants even though they have a red trust.

Merit abusers will always be here as most of them are after for what they will earn if they will rank up. If you are not greedy, you will just do your job and use the community to your advantage. Learn more about the world of crypto and maybe, contribute to this community if you already have something that you can share with.

This is the very reason why merit was put into place in the beginning, to really deter newbies from joining bounty campaigns because they are notorious for their shit posting which the mods and admins doesn't like.

Red trust might help but I'm still seeing a lot of members with red trust still carrying signatures and are in a bounty campaign. So this abuse of merit trading/selling will continue, so we need to be very vigilant. And if we noticed something fishy then I urge everyone to report it as well.

Merrit system did help but i can still see newbies that constantly spamming around the forum and not exactly on bounty altcoin section  . anyway    , the merrit selling/trading cant also be terminated permenenty because even if some reported it on this forum   they can still sell merits on other external sites and groups  . 

Good thing that merrits history can now be seen because this tool can help detect if a user is an merrit abuser or legit .

[laoban]

I can't add pictures on my topics right now, how much merit i need the take for that please help

[Kayum10029]

Merit trading, buying and selling is a punishable activities in bitcointalk forum. If anyone does this action and caught in hands he must get negative trust.

[Stedsm]

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

[carlfebz2]

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

[Stedsm]

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Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

Well, then I believe that they don't really have the right to even ask/beg/cry for the same thing. They should know that they are given an authority with received merits and they're equally responsible to help newbies and others (not saying that they should specifically be low rank members only, but what's the meaning of keeping them) by choosing which of their fellow members' posts are worth giving a merit, as hoarding will get no one nowhere. They complain why merit sources and high rank members are not co-operating and helping them, but remember, even God helps those who help themselves. Even high rank members and merit sources are getting limited number of sMerits each month and they can't run this merit thing alone, so these low rank members who gain good amount of merits need to understand that with an authority comes responsibility.

[emulsifryer]

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

That's the reason why most of the users here are making a spam post it's because it is not easy to earn such merits and besides we all want merits in order to be ranked up. As what I have observed many users like me don't usually earn such merits even if I'll make a better quality post, because most higher ranked members here don't usually give merits or even appreciating some post of ours with this kind of a rank level.

[davinchi]

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

Merit is one of the best features that has been introduced in this forum and it has helped in a lot of ways. I’m not even aware that people also trades merit, doesn’t seem like a good idea to me, they are trying to abuse it and that’s not going to help in anyway.

Merits can also be a way for us to know who to trust in this forum. If people continues to sell merits, then it wouldn’t make sense any longer, so those who are into such should refrain from it.

[Indamuck]

Honestly most people that were already a Hero or Legendary member like the merit system because it makes it difficult for new users to rank up to their level so they feel more special to be in an exclusive club.  Of course not everyone is like this but it is sort of a screw you I got mine mentality that we see in the world today.

[MidKnight]

Honestly most people that were already a Hero or Legendary member like the merit system because it makes it difficult for new users to rank up to their level so they feel more special to be in an exclusive club.  Of course not everyone is like this but it is sort of a screw you I got mine mentality that we see in the world today.

I agree and rewarding opportunites now only circles around them. Signature campaigns that pays in btc only considers legendary and hero member nowadays so those low ranks like us has no chance to get in. I'm also wondering how much they get whenever they accept ICO projects today just to post it an ANN or in Bounties.

[barbara44]

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

There are two types of merits you know that right? There is Merits and Smerits. Merits are the ones you get, but as for smerits, keeping them is useless cause there is nothing you can do with it, apart from giving it someone. There was where this was explained in the forum, don’t have the link ,if not I would have copied and pasted it here.

But let’s assume that I have 10 smerits and I send them to you, you will receive 10 merits and 5 smerits. Those 5 smerits you can give them to someone else too, but as for the 10 merits you got, those ones can’t be given out to someone.

[Jating]

There's another update but this time its the on the Default Trust, DefaultTrust changes.

So we should be aware of not just trading or buying or selling merits but be wary of this new changes as well. For those who haven't visited Meta yet, I urge you to do so. so that you will be updated as well.

[bantano]

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are.

[TravelMug]

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are.

What do you mean you're looking to be a Junior Member? You already achieved that as someone already gave you merit.

Well someone gives you a merit if they see that your comment has somewhat contributed something to the discussion. So it is still on the discretion of the reader. Sometimes even one liner can get you a merit, assuming that it is a straight forward and give the right answer to the thread starter. And congratz, by the way. 

[Hamphser]

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are.

You are already a Jr. member yet you have been merited by someone on that local post you had made.Next stop would be Member rank. Theres no specific time on how often would someone sent you out smerits
as long you do make constructive post, the community would anytime give out as much as they like as long your post do gives contribution or worthy to be merited.

[bantano]

Awesome, just saw it as well. Thanks for the help and explanation guys, much appreciated!

[jvdp]

Awesome, just saw it as well. Thanks for the help and explanation guys, much appreciated!

This is not the place to learn about merits, if you want to learn more about you must check the Theymos's official announcement on meta section. It will give a more clear explanation about the merit system and new rank requirements.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

All the best to rank up soon