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February 27, 2018, 06:49:05 PM
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I think the V9 appeals mostly to people who want to learn about mining, but don't want to invest thousands of dollars up-front. If I were just getting started, the V9 would be worth the money just so that I can make sure I know how everything works before purchasing a more efficient (expensive) miner. Besides, lots of people don't mind using these as glorified space heaters that earn a little money to offset the electricity. I have a neighbor using some D3s for that purpose specifically.

The problem is you need to buy in bulk...



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February 27, 2018, 11:26:51 PM
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I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack.
With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining.
It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc.

Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around.

Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst.
Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it.

I really miss the S3 :-)

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February 28, 2018, 12:28:27 AM
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I think the V9 appeals mostly to people who want to learn about mining, but don't want to invest thousands of dollars up-front. If I were just getting started, the V9 would be worth the money just so that I can make sure I know how everything works before purchasing a more efficient (expensive) miner. Besides, lots of people don't mind using these as glorified space heaters that earn a little money to offset the electricity. I have a neighbor using some D3s for that purpose specifically.

hmmm but with MOQ at 5 or 10, it isnt exactly little money. It is not that far from an S9.

I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack.
With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining.
It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc.

Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around.

Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst.
Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it.

I really miss the S3 :-)

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No offense buddy. I dont understand why anyone wants to play with these things though.



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February 28, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
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I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack.
With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining.
It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc.

Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around.

Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst.
Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it.

I really miss the S3 :-)

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No offense buddy. I dont understand why anyone wants to play with these things though.
As the saying goes "There is a butt for every seat"

1) For the "pure profit motive" I can flip them on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=antminer%20v9&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

2) As I said instead of carrying around an S9 (know fragile units) with 2 power supplies to demo to people who are interested I can take what I assume is an S7 with 1 power supply. If they want it (and yes they know they will loose money @ $500) it's not as big as an outlay.
2a) If they make $200 and decide to get out they can probably sell it for $200 quickly and not loose a real amount.

3) Sidehack with his USB sticks and pods and jstefanop with his moonlanders are selling a ton of stuff (every one they make) to lot of people, all knowing unless a miracle happens they are going to loose money on their purchase.

4) I do dabble in alt coins (as do a lot of people) if you want to mine something and not take an S9 or similar off line to play, then this makes it cost less if your try for the next big thing does not pan out.

5) Some people like different things. Dig at someone who I know is watching this thread (Hi Barry). Would you believe that some people buy $75,000 Alfa Romeos? It's the worst rated car by every reviewer. One magazine actually listed an achievement of one of their review cars as "Being the 1st Alfa in our test fleet not to have the check engine lite come on during the test"

6) Actually going back to the point before, you can run these easily on 1 x 1300 watt off the shelf power supply on 110V circuit. 

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February 28, 2018, 09:26:51 PM
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Well as someone who has set up 10 of the GekkoScience 2 Pac to lean from this would seem like the logical next step. The numbers are not very promising at all in terms of profit but they are selling them as "new" which has to be better than buying a used S7.

Maybe under-volt them to make them a little more profitable. Interested for sure but the single units are already a bit more at $500 on eBay. I can't see this unit going to any serious miners though.
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February 28, 2018, 10:40:02 PM
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I think the Antminer V9 is an underrated and under appreciated machine. It has comparable performance to the S7, and is much cheaper. The price of an S7 today is $899-$1200 dollars vs the V9 at about 500. It is an affordable upgrade for hobby miners that want to take their mining experience to the next level. You aren't going to have to rewire the house to be able to run one or two of these. For someone with cheap electricity it might even be nice to have a few of them vs an S9. Sure the initial costs for all the power supply units would be a lot, but if there is some sort of machine failure, you still can run at 80% while fixing it. Also, having a few V9s would allow you to mine on multiple pools at a single time vs a single S9. Have one on Bitcoin, one on BCH, Digibyte, and so on. Plus, a V9 is much more profitable than an S3.
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February 28, 2018, 10:55:29 PM
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I think the Antminer V9 is an underrated and under appreciated machine. It has comparable performance to the S7, and is much cheaper. The price of an S7 today is $899-$1200 dollars vs the V9 at about 500. It is an affordable upgrade for hobby miners that want to take their mining experience to the next level. You aren't going to have to rewire the house to be able to run one or two of these. For someone with cheap electricity it might even be nice to have a few of them vs an S9. Sure the initial costs for all the power supply units would be a lot, but if there is some sort of machine failure, you still can run at 80% while fixing it. Also, having a few V9s would allow you to mine on multiple pools at a single time vs a single S9. Have one on Bitcoin, one on BCH, Digibyte, and so on. Plus, a V9 is much more profitable than an S3.
Yeah, but you're missing the big points. The lowest MOQ for this miner is 5 which brings cost up by quite a bit, unless you've got free electricity it won't do much of anything with difficulty rising like it has recently (and these are preorders on top of that!). If you plan on buying these individually you have to go through a third party that will be selling these units high above Bitmain's prices (example is eBay).

No idea where the 80% number came from with a machine failure.

The V9 is hardly comparable to the S3. The S3 was and is still popular due to its noise level that made it so versatile. The V9 is just a plain loud miner.

Not sure why you'd want to mine several different coins at once. If you're even semi-seriously mining, sticking to one pool provides the most consistent rewards.

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February 28, 2018, 11:01:33 PM
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He is also missing the fact, that V9 is actually just a rebranded S7 with lower performance settings.

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March 01, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
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Yeah, but you're missing the big points. The lowest MOQ for this miner is 5...

Fixed! We've got them on Amazon if anyone wants them. Obviously, this is a preorder. We have 300 coming in March and 300 coming in April/May. Current price is $499 each with free shipping, but pricing is subject to change. Power supply is not included. Full disclosure, we're profiting at around $30 each after all expenses are taken into account.

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March 02, 2018, 12:34:32 AM
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Fixed! We've got them on Amazon if anyone wants them. Obviously, this is a preorder. We have 300 coming in March and 300 coming in April/May. Current price is $499 each with free shipping, but pricing is subject to change. Power supply is not included. Full disclosure, we're profiting at around $30 each after all expenses are taken into account.

You have the ASIC chip listed wrong at Amazon. You list it as a "BM1350" and Bitmain lists it as a "BM1580" as do all other sellers. It has all the specifications of the BM1385 in the S7. Please update your listing.

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AntMiner V9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 4.0 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1027W ±10% (at the wall, with APW3++, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.253 W/GH ±7% (at the wall, with APW3++, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. ASIC Chip: BM1350
6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 2x 12038 fans
8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet (network cable not included)



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March 02, 2018, 01:04:41 AM
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As the saying goes "There is a butt for every seat"

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1 - I dont think u can make a profit off them on ebay unless u find a dumb buyer.

I am surprised by point 3. This thing is fun for awhile and after that it is just dealing with heat, noise and electricity lol
I guess to each his own.



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March 02, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
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You have the ASIC chip listed wrong at Amazon. You list it as a "BM1350" and Bitmain lists it as a "BM1580" as do all other sellers. It has all the specifications of the BM1385 in the S7. Please update your listing.

Nice catch! Updating now. Thank you.



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March 05, 2018, 03:29:52 PM
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Looks like our V9s will be arriving tomorrow. I'm hoping to do a quick YouTube review on one of them.

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March 05, 2018, 10:21:58 PM
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Looks like our V9s will be arriving tomorrow. I'm hoping to do a quick YouTube review on one of them.

Nice, looking forward to see if there are any actual differences vs. the S7.   Smiley

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Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers.

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March 07, 2018, 01:18:18 AM
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Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers.
Could you provide any photos of the miners if possible? It'd be great to have a look at these outside of Bitmain's sales page, a look inside would be even greater but I understand if you just want to do the outside of the miner.

I also wonder if these would be stable running at the frequency the S7 runs at.

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Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers.
Could you provide any photos of the miners if possible? It'd be great to have an image of these outside of Bitmain's sales page.

Yep will try to do that... charging my camera's battery right now.

Edit - sorry for poor lighting and hasty crops / serial number edits - but here it is:

















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March 07, 2018, 04:20:03 AM
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Hey everyone,

We just (temporarily) lowered our price to $399/each for the V9 if anyone wants one. Here's the link to our Amazon listing. Yes, we're taking a slight loss on each one - but we're out of space at our warehouse and need to move a few of these quickly! We also initiated $100 partial refunds for each customer who already purchased to compensate them for the difference.

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March 07, 2018, 10:37:20 AM
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Interesting photos, thank you suchmoon.  Smiley

I wonder what is with the L3 sticker?

Maybe those hash boards are actually good old L3 hash boards populated with a Bitcoin ASIC chip.
And BM1580 is just a new version of the good old BM1385 chip.

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Interesting photos, thank you suchmoon.  Smiley

I wonder what is with the L3 sticker?

Maybe those hash boards are actually good old L3 hash boards populated with a Bitcoin ASIC chip.
And BM1580 is just a new version of the good old BM1385 chip.

Isn't the L3 larger? I don't have one on hand right now but looking at the pics on Bitmain site it looks like L3/A3 have a taller profile.

Probably just a coincidence with the lettering.

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