bustabit – The original crash game

[JollyGood]

Both Bustadice and Bustabit have dominated within their respective spheres with regards to bankroll investments but looking at history if existing established organisations do not innovate and do not stay ahead of the curve then they suffer badly, in some cases with businesses closing because innovative competitors come along and attract new users.

I understand the concept of "if it is not broken there is no need to fix it" but will there be any innovation to either website soon? Are there any plans to update the game-play structure?

Bustabit has become one of the most popular game platforms in its own right. Its use is increasing and even if the rate of investment commission decreases the price of currencies will rise again we have a lot of users who are on your network for a variety of reasons but I think how easy it is to adjust games with the penguin system when I say that we use linux among other things. Like the playstation and xbox bustabit has its social component which greatly improves the user experience.

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[Kittygalore]

Both Bustadice and Bustabit have dominated within their respective spheres with regards to bankroll investments but looking at history if existing established organisations do not innovate and do not stay ahead of the curve then they suffer badly, in some cases with businesses closing because innovative competitors come along and attract new users.

I understand the concept of "if it is not broken there is no need to fix it" but will there be any innovation to either website soon? Are there any plans to update the game-play structure?

I hope that they will have some innovations but in the end we just have to hope that they will do so as @JollyGood says those who remain stagnant will get left behind. I wanted to invest in them but then I saw these and thought of all the possibilities that could happened when I invested and suddenly a better one comes up and all the players will migrate leaving them desolated and my investment not growing.

[sana54210]

investor commission at 90% does anyone know the estimated apy for investors at this commission rate?

My rough guess:

Over the last 30 days, an average of 195.113741 BTC/day has been wagered. With 90% commission, that means investors should on average make:  0.195113741 BTC/day.

1 BTC would give you 0.029722% of the bankroll.  So you'd make 0.000058 BTC/day. 365 days of that, and you're at 0.0212 BTC.  

So basically 2% apy?  Makes me feel less bad about the 5 BTC I divested to play some rock-paper-scissors with @scenekingsuit  

Most people do make that type of calculation and they come to conclusion of "hey it is better than zero" and that is the trick there. Sure you could maybe make more on some big losers but you could also lose some on big winners, which is why I take that 2% annual return as the real thing and the whole year average and I can say that's still good. I am not saying nobody can find better at someplace else, of course they can find some other place that offers more, but we trust bustabit and we know that devans will not scam us and that is why I believe that we are at a point where instead of zero, we get 2% and that is good enough for me.

That is why I think it is quite important to focus on things that matter and look positive, if we attach ourselves to the negative things that would make things a lot worse and we will not be happy about it, if I see it as "could have been 10% yearly" that would be upsetting but if I see it as "could have been negative" then I am happy.

[JollyGood]

Bustabit/Bustadice are good very investments for those wanting to invest in bankrolls in reputable casinos and gaming sites so until or unless some other sites come along and take a slice of the user base currently with Bustabit/Bustadice then I see no reason why you should not contemplate investing.

I hope that they will have some innovations but in the end we just have to hope that they will do so as @JollyGood says those who remain stagnant will get left behind. I wanted to invest in them but then I saw these and thought of all the possibilities that could happened when I invested and suddenly a better one comes up and all the players will migrate leaving them desolated and my investment not growing.

[Lakai01]

I am not saying nobody can find better at someplace else, of course they can find some other place that offers more, but we trust bustabit and we know that devans will not scam us and that is why I believe that we are at a point where instead of zero, we get 2% and that is good enough for me.

Exact. Of course, other exchanges or platforms offer higher return possibilities, but I like to remember Bitconnect, where many people I know lost a lot of BTC in one fell swoop. People were simply lured by the 50% return per year, transferred their valuable BTC to Bitconnect and were punished after a relatively short time.

The reputation of the platform plays the most central role for me here, both Bustadice and Bustabit are definitely very far ahead in my personal trust ranking

[RHavar]

This screenshot explains his ignorance and how he choses to ruin my name online making me appear as a scammer - https://gyazo.com/67293345fe15ca85678e8955e0e9e121

I'm not sure what that screenshot shows, but I regret trying even trying to understand what's happening there. But I'm guessing that you and Mr. StackGod don't like each other. What I don't get is why you even care? Or think anyone else would want to get involved in some personal spat.

Just so you know, I believe Mr. StackGod is the guy who got robbed by a hooker. Went in with cash and high-hopes and left with only his virginity.

So from what I see, you're a dude who somehow managed to get a casino to not even want to take your money. And you're feuding with a dude who quite literally can't get a professional hooker to sleep with him.  Like, Jesus Christ, man, you might want to re-evaluate your life-choices.

[hopenotlate]

This screenshot explains his ignorance and how he choses to ruin my name online making me appear as a scammer - https://gyazo.com/67293345fe15ca85678e8955e0e9e121

I'm not sure what that screenshot shows, but I regret trying even trying to understand what's happening there. But I'm guessing that you and Mr. StackGod don't like each other. What I don't get is why you even care? Or think anyone else would want to get involved in some personal spat.

Just so you know, I believe Mr. StackGod is the guy who got robbed by a hooker. Went in with cash and high-hopes and left with only his virginity.

So from what I see, Daniel won't even take your money; you're getting banned from discord groups; and you're feuding with a dude who quite literally couldn't pay a woman to sleep with him.  Like, Jesus Christ, man, you might want to re-evaluate your life-choices.

When I read symg post I tought "nothing to see here , let's move on"....but now those bolded part beside making my day are also making me curious to know more about that story 

[RHavar]

When I read symg post I tought "nothing to see here , let's move on"....but now those bolded part beside making my day are also making me curious to know more about that story  

My understanding is that Mr. StackGod is on the heavy-set side, which diminished both the appeal of contractional fulfillment along with the logistical risks of being chased. But for the full details of the story you'll have to talk to him, but it was pretty entertaining.

[tygeade]

Obviously the amount of money made from this with this much bankroll will not be as much as it could be, most probably it will be lower, and we could have a lot less bankroll and a lot higher profit for that. However I agree with sana54210 because it is just something, even a low amount is something and crypto is at a very dangerous spot right now.

There are so many people who think that we are too high and we could go down right now, and there are too many people who think we could still keep going up. One thing both of those people have in common is that since bitcoin became more mainstream and more known, there are a lot more places that are risky, I have seen places that offer as much as 1 million APR and that is obviously a big joke to almost all of us, but when it becomes more "realistic" numbers it looks real and still you could get scammed. The trust we have towards bustabit is the biggest reason why people keep their money here.

[RHavar]

@symg I think the only appropriate thing to do with your accusation against StackGod is to refer it directly to law enforcement. Things of that nature are serious and something that law enforcement does tend to take quite seriously. Public accusations on the other hand just lead to a shit-show and are often pretty unfair on the accused as it leaves their name tainted even if there claim is totally meritless.

With regards to your money, why don't you just withdraw it to a different establishment that would better value the business of a gentlemen like yourself? It's not like bustabit/bustadice is the only game in town

[Lakai01]

Anyways Daniel still has my funds locked and I have no hope withdrawing my £62.35 now, fucking bullshit of a site, when I need funds emergently I need to fucking withdraw and now look at how I'm getting fucking locked off. Nazar is real you man, jealousy is real

Either I've read over that now or I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Why can't you just withdraw your funds? A chat ban should have nothing to do with it.

Have you already tried to contact Daniel via the support email? He is also active in the forum, but I don't know how regularly he reads posts here. I am sure you could also use the support address of Bustadice to reach out to him: hello@bustadice.com

[StackGambler]

This screenshot explains his ignorance and how he choses to ruin my name online making me appear as a scammer - https://gyazo.com/67293345fe15ca85678e8955e0e9e121

I'm not sure what that screenshot shows, but I regret trying even trying to understand what's happening there. But I'm guessing that you and Mr. StackGod don't like each other. What I don't get is why you even care? Or think anyone else would want to get involved in some personal spat.

Just so you know, I believe Mr. StackGod is the guy who got robbed by a hooker. Went in with cash and high-hopes and left with only his virginity.

So from what I see, you're a dude who somehow managed to get a casino to not even want to take your money. And you're feuding with a dude who quite literally can't get a professional hooker to sleep with him.  Like, Jesus Christ, man, you might want to re-evaluate your life-choices.

Hey fuck you, there's so much wrong there I won't even begin to unpack it. There wasn't even a real hooker in this scenario

This screenshot explains his ignorance and how he choses to ruin my name online making me appear as a scammer - https://gyazo.com/67293345fe15ca85678e8955e0e9e121

I'm not sure what that screenshot shows, but I regret trying even trying to understand what's happening there. But I'm guessing that you and Mr. StackGod don't like each other. What I don't get is why you even care? Or think anyone else would want to get involved in some personal spat.

Just so you know, I believe Mr. StackGod is the guy who got robbed by a hooker. Went in with cash and high-hopes and left with only his virginity.

So from what I see, you're a dude who somehow managed to get a casino to not even want to take your money. And you're feuding with a dude who quite literally can't get a professional hooker to sleep with him.  Like, Jesus Christ, man, you might want to re-evaluate your life-choices.

StackGod is a fucking pathetic liar, lies about his fucking age to move to underaged girls and he attacks muslims especially calling the prophet (PBUH) a pedophile. Stack should at all cost be fucking avoided if not banned, he doesn't deserve to be on the site one bit, I knew a friend who was 16, Stack forced her into sending videos in exchange for bits.

People like you are easily mislead by what dirty people like him really hold.

Anyways Daniel still has my funds locked and I have no hope withdrawing my £62.35 now, fucking bullshit of a site, when I need funds emergently I need to fucking withdraw and now look at how I'm getting fucking locked off. Nazar is real you man, jealousy is real

Aren't you the guy who is infamous for running 'pedo accusations' on people for amusement, and then trying to extort them for money? You did it to me twice and it didn't work...

Also, Prophet Muhammed is indeed a pedophile, according to the very book you worship... If you'd bother reading it. There seems to be a lot of projection going on here.

This forum really is a cesspool...

[StackGambler]

Just had a read through the thread, and as a long time bustabit player and the owner of the largest off-site bustabit-related community, I can verify that the user in question has made hundreds upon hundreds of Discord and bustabit accounts attempting to rob & extort all sorts of people. He's been late on tens of loans, including several from me, is an incessant beggar, talks about religion way too much, and is overall not a very pleasant person to be around if you want your wallet to remain as full as it was before you entered the room. +1 vouch for Daniel banning him, great choice

[JollyGood]

Congratulations to devans for reaching 100+ pages in the thread. Also to RHavar because he was the original owner of Bustabit.

I am curious about how a deal of this magnitude took place?

How does one person in one country buy a highly lucrative and successful website from another person in a different country using Bitcoin? (assuming that was the payment method and assuming no face-to-face meeting to place).

I do not know if the terms of the sale were ever made public but either way without stating the figures involved, how does a sale like this go ahead?

It is hard to imagine an escrow of sorts taking place with Bitcoin going one way in exchange for server login details or domain ownership + database + files going the other way in zip format.

Did lawyers get involved to ensure the deal went through properly on a legal basis or was it more of an agreement between gentlemen who share a high degree of respect for one another? I assume it is the latter but can someone clarify?

Once again congratulations to both devans and RHavar on the continued success of Bustabit and getting to the 100+ page milestone.

Hey everyone,

Some people might already know me from bustadice, which launched last October. A little over a week ago I also acquired bustabit from Ryan and will be running it going forwards. Due to the change in ownership it was necessary to  generate a new hash chain and hold bustabit's second provably fair seed event, which you can find here.

[tygeade]

Okay I have seen and heard many things in crypto world, there was even one time when people were paying 5k dollars worth of money to go to a yacth where there will be professional escorts who would have sex with the customers and there would be food and entertainment (like you would need more than escorts) and basically all around something as hedonistic as it gets.

However I have never heard someone getting denied by an escort before. That is a story I would love to read in detail if someone can get all the details and a permission to share and share it somewhere else and link it here. I mean of course everyone has a chance to decline a client, you can do that as a grocery store why wouldn't an escort whose job is A LOT more intimate than a grocery store wouldn't decline a client but even with that idea I have still never heard about something like that, must have been waaaay too heavy side.

[RHavar]

However there are no rules on the bustabit site that state if I constantly mute evade, I therefore get permanently banned?

Amusingly, you might be right. At least I couldn't find anything in the terms-of-service that says "the operator has the right to refuse service to anyone at his own discretion". Although I think it's pretty much implied. But if it did contain that clause, would that make you happy?   

[micky123]

Wow,

Looks like someone (or a group of folks) bit the bullet and divested from the bankroll. We are down to 2965 BTC invested. Could also be people taking profits given the current jump in price of BTC or maybe someone decided its time to buy that island they always wanted to retire to.

[rhomelmabini]

Wow,

Looks like someone (or a group of folks) bit the bullet and divested from the bankroll. We are down to 2965 BTC invested. Could also be people taking profits given the current jump in price of BTC or maybe someone decided its time to buy that island they always wanted to retire to.

More like people are seeing or feeling they are profitable enough now but I don't think the bull run will end here considering the recent bullish news all around the corner. Negative 2965 BTC wasn't a little amount or maybe other people are diversifying it onto other altcoins since they are feeling an altcoin season bull run.

[numanoid]

Wow,

Looks like someone (or a group of folks) bit the bullet and divested from the bankroll. We are down to 2965 BTC invested. Could also be people taking profits given the current jump in price of BTC or maybe someone decided its time to buy that island they always wanted to retire to.

More like people are seeing or feeling they are profitable enough now but I don't think the bull run will end here considering the recent bullish news all around the corner. Negative 2965 BTC wasn't a little amount or maybe other people are diversifying it onto other altcoins since they are feeling an altcoin season bull run.

It's not negative 2965 btc but it drop to 2965 btc invested on bustabit. So i see the max winning bet in a bet is 29.65 btc now (1% from invested amount).

I don't remember how much exact bitcoin invested before new investing system, but i remember it was above 7000 bitcoins, with 70 btc as max profit on that time

[StackGambler]

@symg I think the only appropriate thing to do with your accusation against StackGod is to refer it directly to law enforcement. Things of that nature are serious and something that law enforcement does tend to take quite seriously. Public accusations on the other hand just lead to a shit-show and are often pretty unfair on the accused as it leaves their name tainted even if there claim is totally meritless.

With regards to your money, why don't you just withdraw it to a different establishment that would better value the business of a gentlemen like yourself? It's not like bustabit/bustadice is the only game in town

I certainly will take this directly to law enforcement. Nor do I conduct this behaviour as would anyone else and the fact that he holds such a reputation from his youtube videos and people like you that side with him, how could I possibly convince the majority of the community?

I have evidence which I will take with me to the court house and I have evidence that he lies about his age to move to underaged girls. The girl was fucking 16 at the time, Stack you have no right to use the excuse that our prophet (PBUH) is a pedo, which may God forbid you because to make such a remark is fucking disgusting of you, especially in the 21st century.

When did I ever extort anyone for money? And when was I ever late for loans from you? I can admit it took me a year and a half to pay a girl who I had owed $300 to pay back, which she was fine by and we are still fine till this day. You have no right to call me a scammer, as you have no evidence, you own an unofficial bustabit discord server, perhaps you can check the logs for that to see when I payed back your loans, perhaps you can stop using your reputation to defame someone who has less reputation in the community.

Stack you're fucking disgusting, you are a fucking pedophile, If you had the confidence, you would show the chats right now of you lying about your age to move to underaged people in your own server. Check the logs yourself, and I know for a fact myself that I have NEVER scammed anyone, If i have scammed someone or I haven't paid back someone that you know of, tell me. I always keep a list of the people I owe and when I am due to pay them back, I have always kept notice on the times you have loaned me and the latest it took me to pay back a loan of yours is 4 days.

If you want to use your community and your reputation to fuck someone over, atleast have evidence you filthy fuck.

And Ryan, as for the money that I had locked up, it was sorted between Daniel and I this morning - However there are no rules on the bustabit site that state if I constantly mute evade, I therefore get permanently banned?

I am happy to take this to LE. We don't live too far from each other.

I'm also willing to wager up to 1 BTC (or whatever your net worth is) that I have never 'made a move' on a girl that's underage in my jurisdiction.

Daniel has banned you from bustabit for being a serial beggar and scammer. I've personally witnessed said serial scamming and begging in my own server, along with your plans with friends to 'run pedo accusations'.

Easy double up on your bank balance, go for it please. Or was it all grandstanding?