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September 11, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
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Yes Captain everything is under control, nothing special to report.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/09/nsa-chiefs-former-war-room-was-modeled-after-the-starship-enterprise/
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September 11, 2013, 08:13:32 PM
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3) Robotic mosquito flying behind your head

I'm living under constant fear that this happens day in and day out, how do I keep going?
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September 11, 2013, 09:05:45 PM
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3) Robotic mosquito flying behind your head

I'm living under constant fear that this happens day in and day out, how do I keep going?

Kill all the mosquitoes at sight and you should be safe  Tongue

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September 11, 2013, 11:45:23 PM
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Or, they were reading the email as you typed it using

1) Rootkit
2) Tempest
3) Robotic mosquito flying behind your head

1. Not likely. Email composed and encrypted offline. Also got tools for this, GMER, etc.
2. Not likely. Faraday cage and all that.
3. Not likely. All insects don't get past the door and air filters.

Of course, it's still possible. Just not likely.

@gmaxwell, nice post. I almost understood everything. hehehe.

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September 11, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
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September 12, 2013, 04:06:38 AM
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Are you really that naive?

Do you underestimate the brightest minds in the world? Do you believe that the minds in the NSA are somehow brighter than those outside of it?

So what evidence do you have that the brightest minds in the world are not in these government agencies?

A friend of mine's son has studied maths at Cambridge in the UK, he is now doing a PHD over in the US at MIT. She had her son's friend stay with her over the holiday, and told me that this girl was also studying for a PHD also. This girl is apparently ridiculously intelligent, to the point of being autistic, she has no social skills. She has already been approached by GCHQ and has done a summer placement there. She has been offered a place after completing her PHD.

That's what happens in the real world, these ultra bright kids will be snapped up by places like GCHQ and NSA before they are 21, but, this forum is just like a hollow box where you all like to shout about the positives of bitcoin without ever considering the real world, so I guess none of this matters.

The real world has no relevance on the internet.

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September 12, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
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If you have to ask, you already know the answer.

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September 13, 2013, 01:49:05 PM
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If you have to ask, you already know the answer.



More like, if you have to ask, you are trying to divert us from looking at secp256k1.
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September 14, 2013, 03:50:38 AM
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If you have to ask, you already know the answer.



More like, if you have to ask, you are trying to divert us from looking at secp256k1.

hehe

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September 14, 2013, 09:19:37 AM
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Or, they were reading the email as you typed it using

1) Rootkit
2) Tempest
3) Robotic mosquito flying behind your head

1. Not likely. Email composed and encrypted offline. Also got tools for this, GMER, etc.
2. Not likely. Faraday cage and all that.
3. Not likely. All insects don't get past the door and air filters.

Of course, it's still possible. Just not likely.

@gmaxwell, nice post. I almost understood everything. hehehe.

You seem to have your systems quite in order sir Smiley  Do you mind while we stray somewhat off topic if I ask, how you authenticate your recipients public key?

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September 14, 2013, 10:32:48 AM
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Bitcoin is one big worry after another.

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September 14, 2013, 05:40:15 PM
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Bitcoin Pakistan... holy $hit.

Something tells me NSA's computers just went off the charts, LOL
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September 14, 2013, 05:42:47 PM
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Bitcoin Pakistan... holy $hit.

Something tells me NSA's computers just went off the charts, LOL

Why just? I've been a member of this forum for months and my site has been up for most of that time. Also there's a dedicated thread for Pakistan in the other forum.
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September 14, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
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September 14, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
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What if satoshi nakamoto works at nsa Smiley

Then the USA and a small group of shadow people would take control over the next standard currency by holding 1MBTC

Wait...! What ?

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September 14, 2013, 07:43:02 PM
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Also, the NSA themselves rely on this encryption, do they want their secrets revealed?
How can you know that NSA use SHA-256 in their own communication channels?
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September 15, 2013, 07:44:24 AM
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You seem to have your systems quite in order sir Smiley  Do you mind while we stray somewhat off topic if I ask, how you authenticate your recipients public key?
I'm supposed to get their GPG fingerprint from a more secure channel, such as voice or telephone (including SMS or text messages). But these days you can do VOIP, and some chats, some video conferencing, skype, yahoo with webcam, etc. The best method, of course, is in person.

Also depends on how much you should trust the other party, if it's just casual conversation or he's trying to buy something from me, I don't even bother, I just accept his public key and check later (from somewhere else, another physical internet connection from another physical location) if I got the same public key. I try to check if it's from a keyserver or his own private web page or something.

Would be very hard for some bad guy to compromise all of those unless the poor guy has already been a national security level target for some time and he's been replaced by a clone or something.

I can probably accept the public keys of most of the bitcoin devs, for example, and use those to communicate with them and/or verify the latest bitcoin-qt releases.

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September 15, 2013, 10:16:13 AM
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It is, after all, the "world wide web"

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September 15, 2013, 10:25:27 AM
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Sh*t I thought SHA-256 was designed by aliens!
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September 15, 2013, 04:54:35 PM
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You seem to have your systems quite in order sir Smiley  Do you mind while we stray somewhat off topic if I ask, how you authenticate your recipients public key?
I'm supposed to get their GPG fingerprint from a more secure channel, such as voice or telephone (including SMS or text messages). But these days you can do VOIP, and some chats, some video conferencing, skype, yahoo with webcam, etc. The best method, of course, is in person.

Also depends on how much you should trust the other party, if it's just casual conversation or he's trying to buy something from me, I don't even bother, I just accept his public key and check later (from somewhere else, another physical internet connection from another physical location) if I got the same public key. I try to check if it's from a keyserver or his own private web page or something.

Would be very hard for some bad guy to compromise all of those unless the poor guy has already been a national security level target for some time and he's been replaced by a clone or something.

I can probably accept the public keys of most of the bitcoin devs, for example, and use those to communicate with them and/or verify the latest bitcoin-qt releases.

Boy you know your stuff. I got a Master Degree in Information Security and Advance Cryptography. I can confirm you are spot on.  Wink

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