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March 25, 2018, 02:17:45 PM
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Socrates? surely this is the philosopher of the altcoin in the future, a little shake my stomach, but what can make this just an appreciation for the famous philosopher.

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March 25, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
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For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.
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March 26, 2018, 07:22:02 AM
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This has already raised over $8 million for a project that doesn't have much activity on social networks which is surprising

What sort of revenues do you project for the first year once the platform goes live?

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March 26, 2018, 07:25:02 AM
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I have nothing against project, but why such strange name of project? NAUKA is a Russian word that means "Science" in English but there are not any Russian person in team... This is Strange

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March 26, 2018, 11:11:23 AM
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I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.
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March 26, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
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Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
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March 26, 2018, 11:14:41 AM
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Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
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March 26, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
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Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.
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March 26, 2018, 11:19:49 AM
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Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.
Many social platform can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
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March 26, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
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Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.
Many social platform can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
They are also very active on this thread which is very good because it shows that they are serious about this project.
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March 26, 2018, 02:27:11 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
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March 26, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
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March 26, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
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March 26, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
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March 26, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
That's true, but when do you think marketing is most effective? During ICO, Post ICO, after the platform/product is ready?
Or is a mix of each important?
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March 26, 2018, 05:50:49 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
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March 26, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.
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March 26, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
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Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.
Thank you for keeping an eye on this. I was just on an extended weekend trip and missed all the fun here. But I am sure that more will come as soon as I start posting again.

Just to give a short update on the "partner institutions"

Dubna University - Never heared of Socratescoin or the Nauka University
Lomonosov Moscow State University - Socra who and Nauka what?
University of Brasilia (you should have at least written the name right but we already know that you´re to lazy/incompetent to do so) - From what my friend told me they don´t know anything about this and he wasn´t the first who asked...
World University Consortium - No answer yet
ISMEC - International Sport Medicine Center - It is not a medicine center it is a clinic that in Sevilla that probably Alfred once went to after he rolled his ankle while playing tennis. I didn´t even contact them.
World Organisation of Systems and Cybernetics (WOSC) - They don´t even have a contact address but they are not a reputable ressource anyways so I didn´t try to reach out to them.
International Association of Dual Remote Education project (MADDO) - The logo indicates (мaддo) that they are base in Russia but there is nothing to be found about them.

It turns out that hight members of the Socratescoin team are involved in various other scams or similar. I got a reoutable intel from people more close to them than they would have ever thought. I will reveal more about that at a later point in time because there is still so much to look into.

@John: Can you dm me please?
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March 26, 2018, 06:08:05 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.
Certainly something that should be an attack on any ICO, support BTC for its large volume of project supporters, and good marketing, Team videos demonstrating their mastery of the concept also tend to bring in more fans.
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March 26, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.
Yes, so much new ICOs recently, if a project's team won’t advertise their project properly, then it will be buried under another ICO’s.
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