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Author Topic: [ANN] [XMV] MoneroV - Fork 1:10 of Monero - Finite coin supply - Private  (Read 42248 times)
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February 23, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
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Is this mineable? Will I be credited with my Monero on cryptopia?
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February 23, 2018, 12:37:46 PM
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Monero user will receive this fork with 1:1 right?
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February 23, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
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Monero user will receive this fork with 1:1 right?
if you cant even read the title of this thread then you dont deserve anyone reply to you :2cents:
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February 23, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
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Wandering how these concerned trolls are not banned.  Huh
Don't you get it that the more you cry about MoneroV the more legitimate it seems to all of us?

Monero 'leadership' as a very shady background.
Monero isn't de-centralized, being led by the face of 1 person.
CryptoNote itself has a very dubious history.
Monero's network hashrate is over 1 billion, mainly due to botnets, hacks, and browser mining.

Just extract the coins safely, and shut up about the rest.
These guys know what they are doing, obviously, as they have the whole Monero community against them.
Same happend with Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash. This has great future Grin I'd buy some if there was any pre-sale.


BTW, bounties?






I consider monero to be one of the most decentralized and privacy focused coin.
But I'm too a believer that forking a good coin like monero is ultimately good for the crypto world.
As we'll have several chances of finding faults and several ways to counter the problems.
Though MoneroV may not have the same level of privacy as monero but it still is one of the best alternative to it.

 
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February 24, 2018, 04:40:09 AM
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Wandering how these concerned trolls are not banned.  Huh

Because the Monero community has demonstrated using objective mathematical models how this split negatively impacts privacy on both chains and MoneroV users are actually more negatively impacted. MoneroV in response has claimed 'FUD' rather than offer an objective rebuttal or some solution to the problem, most likely because they can't refute the math and logic. I meanwhile have a simple solution, don't do a chain split and instead the MoneroV community should create their own blockchain from genesis. This would give MoneroV what it seems to want; it a new blockchain means no old blockchain bloat and MoneroV users remain private, but for some reason MoneroV devs have yet to explain a solution, they remain fixed on doing a chain split to their own MoneroV users' detriment.

Don't you get it that the more you cry about MoneroV the more legitimate it seems to all of us?

So what does this make stuff out there like BitConnect and Monero Gold to you? Surely BitConnect is the most legit crypto out there because so many 'cry' about it?  Wink

Monero 'leadership' as a very shady background.

Citation needed.

Monero isn't de-centralized, being led by the face of 1 person.

This is easily demonstratively false by looking at Monero's GitHub contributor history and the bi-weekly public dev meetings.

CryptoNote itself has a very dubious history.

You do realize that by virtue of forking from Monero, MoneroV is CryptoNote based, right? It's even listed in the table in the MoneroV roadmap paper. Heck, even the MoneroV 'white paper' is just a link to the official 'CryptoNote' white paper Shocked

Monero's network hashrate is over 1 billion, mainly due to botnets, hacks, and browser mining.

Again, citation needed demonstrating how much of the hashrate is made of those. Worth noting that according to MoneroV's own roadmap that the MoneroV PoW change will not happen until Q1 '19 which means it will be using the same PoW as Monero which is used by an unknown amount of botnets and browsers to mine. So MoneroV will be just as 'susceptible' as Monero to these bad miners (worth noting the browser mining isn't necessarily bad if the user agrees to it like in the case of Salon). Furthermore MoneroV fails to explain how this PoW change a year from now will somehow make it less ideal to mine for nefarious miners than it will be at chain split.

These guys know what they are doing, obviously, as they have the whole Monero community against them.

Mmm, not really. Monero community is against them because a chain split can undermine the privacy of both chains. So far all the official MoneroV Twitter account has done is cry 'FUD' rather than bring objective facts to the table.

Let's be intellectually honest here. Two groups of people, Group A and Group B have a debate. Group A says Group B's plan is bad and gives objective facts. Group B's counterargument is 'lol FUD' and fails to counter the objective facts of Group A. Who won the debate, the one with the undeniable facts or the one that just said 'FUD'?

And going back to 'concerned trolling' if all the MoneroV community can say is 'FUD' or 'concern trolling' they're committing even more logical fallacies AKA argumentum ad hominem and further demonstrating the Monero community's points...

"not everyone with a concern is a concern troll - and not every concern is unreasonable. In environments of genuine groupthink, applying the concern troll label may serve as a means of enforcing conformity and punishing (or silencing) dissent. And even without actual groupthink in play, many Internet posters find dismissing an argument much quicker and easier than evaluating it. In addition, the term "concern troll" focuses not on what the person is actually saying, but on some alleged agenda.

Thus, if misused, it is the perfect refuge for someone who has no counter to the actual argument: simply ignore the points made, allege some other position, and then accuse the other person of lying if they deny that that is what they're really saying. It's a combination of straw man and argumentum ad hominem: make up something to attack, and ignore their actual points on the basis that since the points were made by someone acting in bad faith, they need not be addressed." Taken from https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll


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February 24, 2018, 11:59:24 AM
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I am not looking to ruin the thread, but you can have a look at -

https://da-data.blogspot.de/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r4fw9/what_is_the_monero_cripple_mine_and_fastmine/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/

BTW, Monero was first called BitMonero...

Anyway, i'm looking forward for this fork guys.
Please if there are already bounties in place publish them.
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February 24, 2018, 12:28:55 PM
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I want to trade the new monerov as soon as the fork will happen. Where can I do this?
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February 24, 2018, 04:14:37 PM
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Hey guys... I'm a passionate supporter of Sumo (xmr fork as well).

Prepare for some heavy fud from xmr. You will get it...

surprising absolutely no one, the morons using sumokoin  have no issues with monerov. one preminer scratching another ones back.
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February 24, 2018, 07:22:36 PM
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I want to trade the new monerov as soon as the fork will happen. Where can I do this?

It depends of course on whether or not any exchange will quickly adopt that fork. If that doesn't happen it will go through the standard procedure. If someone pays the listing fee you can trade it and if not then not.

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February 24, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
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After the fork and release, will the new wallet require a complete blockchain download and store as is [seemingly] the case with Monero now?
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February 24, 2018, 10:02:20 PM
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After the fork and release, will the new wallet require a complete blockchain download and store as is [seemingly] the case with Monero now?

There will be a light weight wallet which does not require you to download the whole chain

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February 24, 2018, 10:06:33 PM
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Another hardfork coin
interesting enough
maybe i will buy some Monero when snapshot begins for free money...  Grin
anyway, which exchange will support this coin ?
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February 25, 2018, 12:46:42 PM
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Interesting. What will be the cost of this coin?
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February 25, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
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I just can't believe how much the monero team is obsessed with this project.
This is all great signs for a big event all the crypto community will benefit from.

Still waiting for those bounties.
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February 25, 2018, 05:04:56 PM
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This looks nice project, It's time to withdraw some monero from exchange to my wallet.
I think it's price will be 1/10 of Monero. So don't miss the opportunity guys.

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February 25, 2018, 10:09:04 PM
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Interesting. What will be the cost of this coin?

market will decide. we look forward to that..

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February 26, 2018, 11:21:10 AM
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hi guys,
this might stupid question but can some one clarifiy for me please.

1.Which wallet is best for storing Monero where i can claim XMV or the upcoming fork?I have download Windows wallet but it is taking ages i been syncing since last one week.i dont think i will able to sync whole blockchain by the fork happens.

2.It says 1 XMR = 10 XMV,but when i have 0.98 XMR will i get 9.80 XMV or should i have one complete XMR?

thanks


You can use remote node for quick sync of your GUI wallet.  See how to do it here https://getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/remote_node_gui.html
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February 27, 2018, 02:15:49 PM
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When i can start mining?))
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February 27, 2018, 05:07:45 PM
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us am undestand....

1. MoneroV fork from Monero
2. MonoroV NO build own Node
3. to Pick XMV(with not know price) need give to "noname" person(team) my private key from wallet
4. if Node remain Monero - "noname" HAVE my wallet and my private key XMR(with price ~300$)
5. to secure XMR somehow I need move before fork from wallet(pay Fees) and move after fork back(pay Fees) my Monero (and maybe receive XMV with not know price)
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February 28, 2018, 02:50:37 PM
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Hello


Is it a good idea to buy the XMR now ?

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