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July 23, 2011, 10:32:27 AM
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Anarchist are atheist
Anarchism doesn't automatically mean atheism, it just means being against the state, authorities and/or government etc. in general and being for a stateless society for example. It's not related to atheism or religion at all.

for fucks sake, the current pope was a member of the hitler youth!!!!!!!....
As much as i like to bash the human boss of the catholics...in Ratzinger's defense...he didn't have much of a choice as kid and i doubt that he had any political motivations as kid. And his parents didn't have much of choice either. He had to join hitler youth because every kid had to join it by law. Parents in Germany where urged to send their sons to the hitler youth at the age of 10(Deutsches Jungvolk) and a similar organization for girls. If the parents had refused to send him there, the nazi regime and it's police would have enforced it. But i agree on the rest that you wrote.
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July 23, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
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...and yesterday a fanatic Christian bombed Oslo...

But yes, any «put the crackpot religious/other fanatic instance, like nationalists, group here», can go on terrorism. Isn't an exclusive of religious folks (more an exclusive of crackpots and wackjobs in general).
Still, those ones in the cartoon goes around one religion, and that cartoons is allusive to the new Al Qaeda recruiting methods; produce cartoons for kids vouching for their... ahammm... activities.

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July 23, 2011, 09:18:13 PM
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Does that make atheism bad? No. In the same way, you should not judge religion about that. Thats inmature, but I know you are a troll, so I dont care about you and you stupid casino.

That's not all, there are also the wonderful stories of cruel and inhumane punishments meted out to people for the most trivial of offenses. This is documented in your "holy" books

- Numbers 15:32-36

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While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation. They put him in custody, because it had not been made clear what should be done to him. And the LORD said to Moses, "The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." And all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, as the LORD commanded Moses.

- Leviticus 2:24-34

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....The LORD said to me, “See, I have begun to deliver Sihon and his country over to you. Now begin to conquer and possess his land.”

When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, the LORD our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them — men, women and children. We left no survivors.

- Genesis 6:17-23 --- The alleged "Great Flood" which was basically a mass killing i.e. Genocide.

- Deuteronomy 32:21-26

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They have provoked Me to jealousy by what is not God;
They have moved Me to anger by their foolish idols.
But I will provoke them to jealousy by those who are not a nation;
I will move them to anger by a foolish nation.

For a fire is kindled in My anger,
And shall burn to the lowest hell;
It shall consume the earth with her increase,
And set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

‘I will heap disasters on them;
I will spend My arrows on them.

They shall be wasted with hunger,
Devoured by pestilence and bitter destruction;
I will also send against them the teeth of beasts,
With the poison of serpents of the dust.

The sword shall destroy outside;
There shall be terror within
For the young man and virgin,
The nursing child with the man of gray hairs.

I would have said, “I will dash them in pieces,
I will make the memory of them to cease from among men,”


- Joshua 11:19-20

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No one in this region made peace with the Israelites except the Hivites of Gibeon. All the others were defeated. For the Lord hardened their hearts and caused them to fight the Israelites. So they were completely destroyed without mercy, as the Lord had commanded Moses.

How can the genocide be justified when it was God who “hardened their hearts and caused them to fight the Israelites” in the first place?



Goddamn (pun intended) by his own measure he is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Kim Il Sung, (the next kim even), Saddam Hussein, Col Qaddafi, Dubya, Obama, Assad, Mugabe, Menghitsu, Emperor Hideki, Mobutu, Pinoche, Suharto, Pol Pot, Osama Bin Laden & Co., AIDS..................................

Even SATAN isn't on record as having murdered so many people.

Need I continue?
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July 23, 2011, 09:23:39 PM
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...and yesterday a fanatic Christian bombed Oslo...

The news report him as being a right wing nut, not a religious one.

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July 23, 2011, 09:30:50 PM
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...and yesterday a fanatic Christian bombed Oslo...

The news report him as being a right wing nut, not a religious one.

Sure it wasn't a British report, and they called him a 'right wing-nut'? Wink

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July 23, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
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The humorous atheist cartoonist youtube.com/nonstampcollector has just uploaded a great two-part animated short about Noah and his company loading the ark:

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July 23, 2011, 11:23:14 PM
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The news report him as being a right wing nut, not a religious one.
which news? FoxNews? They "forgot" to mention the extremist christian detail on their report:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/23/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway/

In europe the man is reported to be a christian fundamentalist:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,776087,00.html --> "Ein konservativer Christ sei er, heißt es, ein Muslim-Hasser und Freimaurer."
http://www.timesplus.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3103461.ece --> "A far-right Christian fundamentalist"
http://www3.lastampa.it/esteri/sezioni/articolo/lstp/412699/ --> "cristiano fondamentalista con simpatie di estrema destra"
http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2011/07/23/pres-de-90-morts-dans-les-deux-attaques-en-norvege_1551920_3214.html --> "les enquêteurs le présentent comme un "fondamentaliste chrétien". "Il a certains traits politiques penchant vers la droite et antimusulmans"

He is a right wing and religious nut. His motivation might have been right-wingish, because he attacked leftwingers(which are mostly infidels) and their kids. But the christian fundamentalist part doesn't seem to fit in some media's "terrorists are muslims only" concept. If he was a muslim but did it for right-wing reasons...the muslim religion part would be all over FoxNews.
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July 23, 2011, 11:35:01 PM
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Same for Portuguese news:

http://aeiou.expresso.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=ex.stories/663720&va=3959444#39594

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Anders Behring Breivi, um "fundamentalista cristão"
Anders Behring Breivi, a "Christian fundamentalist"

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July 23, 2011, 11:36:06 PM
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The news report him as being a right wing nut, not a religious one.
which news? FoxNews? They "forgot" to mention the extremist christian detail on their report:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/23/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway/

In europe the man is reported to be a christian fundamentalist:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,776087,00.html --> "Ein konservativer Christ sei er, heißt es, ein Muslim-Hasser und Freimaurer."
http://www.timesplus.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3103461.ece --> "A far-right Christian fundamentalist"
http://www3.lastampa.it/esteri/sezioni/articolo/lstp/412699/ --> "cristiano fondamentalista con simpatie di estrema destra"
http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2011/07/23/pres-de-90-morts-dans-les-deux-attaques-en-norvege_1551920_3214.html --> "les enquêteurs le présentent comme un "fondamentaliste chrétien". "Il a certains traits politiques penchant vers la droite et antimusulmans"

He is a right wing and religious nut. His motivation might have been right-wingish, because he attacked leftwingers(which are mostly infidels) and their kids. But the christian fundamentalist part doesn't seem to fit in some media's "terrorists are muslims only" concept. If he was a muslim but did it for right-wing reasons...the muslim religion part would be all over FoxNews.

Right. My bad. Right winger AND religious nut.

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July 23, 2011, 11:57:05 PM
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The news report him as being a right wing nut, not a religious one.
which news? FoxNews? They "forgot" to mention the extremist christian detail on their report:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/23/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway/

In europe the man is reported to be a christian fundamentalist:
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,776087,00.html --> "Ein konservativer Christ sei er, heißt es, ein Muslim-Hasser und Freimaurer."
http://www.timesplus.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3103461.ece --> "A far-right Christian fundamentalist"
http://www3.lastampa.it/esteri/sezioni/articolo/lstp/412699/ --> "cristiano fondamentalista con simpatie di estrema destra"
http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2011/07/23/pres-de-90-morts-dans-les-deux-attaques-en-norvege_1551920_3214.html --> "les enquêteurs le présentent comme un "fondamentaliste chrétien". "Il a certains traits politiques penchant vers la droite et antimusulmans"

He is a right wing and religious nut. His motivation might have been right-wingish, because he attacked leftwingers(which are mostly infidels) and their kids. But the christian fundamentalist part doesn't seem to fit in some media's "terrorists are muslims only" concept. If he was a muslim but did it for right-wing reasons...the muslim religion part would be all over FoxNews.

Right. My bad. Right winger AND religious nut.

And apparently, A Freemason.

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July 24, 2011, 06:09:39 AM
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I'm surprised that after they found out he wasn't Muslim they didn't accuse him of being an 'Anarchist' first.
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July 24, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
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And apparently, A Freemason.

There was a picture of him dressed as such. Here's his FB profile dump:

http://mg.co.za/uploads/2011/07/23/andersbehringbreivikfacebook.pdf

(notice the "sponsored by Sarah Palin", funny coincidence of FB ads: He did it, Sarah wishes she could do it. Grin )

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July 24, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
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I can recommend to look up his 'Manifest' and have a quick browse through it (1516 pages is too much to read). You'll get the idea why he did it. The worrying part is that people have been helping him to write it (most likely people with the same believes).
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I can recommend to look up his 'Manifest' and have a quick browse through it (1516 pages is too much to read). You'll get the idea why he did it. The worrying part is that people have been helping him to write it (most likely people with the same believes).

What's the tl;dr summary?

"We will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.

Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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I can recommend to look up his 'Manifest' and have a quick browse through it (1516 pages is too much to read). You'll get the idea why he did it. The worrying part is that people have been helping him to write it (most likely people with the same believes).

What's the tl;dr summary?

On short he's predicting a revolution at Europe by 2083 and tell about his delusions which lead to it.
You also have rituals, Book of Saint Cyprian-like, including skulls and swords.

Picture Mhein Kampf, now add religious delusions to it, a book Osama bin Hitler could had write. That's it.

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July 24, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
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Have you guys seen Prof. Brothers' Bible stories? Lots of Lulz:

The Professor Brothers - Bible History #1 (Sodom & Gomorrah)
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Have you guys seen Prof. Brothers' Bible stories? Lots of Lulz:

The Professor Brothers - Bible History #1 (Sodom & Gomorrah)

No need dude! That's just exactly what the bible says and he "cuts" exactly when Loth's daughters get their dad drunk and get pregnant by him... And this was "the only just guy worthy to be saved" according to God. God really have strange friends... Roll Eyes

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