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October 07, 2013, 04:18:29 PM |
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Great to hear that Friday is the goal date. Where are they being assembled/tested/shipped from?
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 04:34:13 PM |
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Great to hear that Friday is the goal date. Where are they being assembled/tested/shipped from?
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djjacket
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October 07, 2013, 05:00:25 PM |
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I did, it says assembly begins Oct. 7, doesn't mention how long assembly will take. Although we cannot commit with 100% certainty, we are expecting to ship everyone's boards by Friday, Oct. 11. (that's 2013 for the BFL fans out there.  ) The biggest risk to the schedule at the moment is how long it will take to program and test all of the boards. We have a team lined up to do this but given that doing 100's of boards is VERY different than doing 1 or 2, we don't really know how long this will take. We have solid estimates but they are only estimates. If we start to fall behind on the first day, we'll add more people and a second shift if necessary. Thanks for the update. How many boards are currently queued for production this week? |
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dtown
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October 07, 2013, 05:06:18 PM |
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Thanks! I'm in Texas, so that's great news for me.
I was looking over the thermal pads on FrozenCPU and I noticed there are pads that are rated 17.0 W/mK vs 11 W/mK. I assume they are better, but I don't really have any experience with thermal pads. Anybody have any thoughts?
Also, what CPU fans are you guys going with?
Last question - will I need to round up USB cables?
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 05:28:10 PM |
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I did, it says assembly begins Oct. 7, doesn't mention how long assembly will take. Although we cannot commit with 100% certainty, we are expecting to ship everyone's boards by Friday, Oct. 11. (that's 2013 for the BFL fans out there. ) The biggest risk to the schedule at the moment is how long it will take to program and test all of the boards. We have a team lined up to do this but given that doing 100's of boards is VERY different than doing 1 or 2, we don't really know how long this will take. We have solid estimates but they are only estimates. If we start to fall behind on the first day, we'll add more people and a second shift if necessary. Haha totally missed this post, thanks for the update, and for the BFL joke!  Very impressive timeline by the way, hats-off to you guys all round! Could you just confirm that they take standard mini-USB cables like the OEM BFL stuff - got to order a bunch and don't want to get the wrong ones! |
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 05:32:31 PM |
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I was looking over the thermal pads on FrozenCPU and I noticed there are pads that are rated 17.0 W/mK vs 11 W/mK. I assume they are better, but I don't really have any experience with thermal pads. Anybody have any thoughts?
They are better but they are crazy expensive and believed not to be worth the money, though extensive testing hasn't been done. The 11W/mK has been confirmed to work well though, so I'm going with that. Also, what CPU fans are you guys going with?
I'm going with a Hyper 212 Evo because the GPU coolers, although probably a bit better, are not worth the extra money IMHO. The cheapest place I could find one on the net was from bitcoinstore.com which obviously has the advantage of paying in BTC! https://www.bitcoinstore.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-rr-212e-20pk-r2-cooling-fan-heatsink.htmlThis is confirmed to be compatible with the boards and performs well with the 11 W/mk TIM. Last question - will I need to round up USB cables?
I believe you will. I have just asked above for one of them to confirm it's the standard USB-mini cables they take. I'll be surprised if it's not, but I'm going to wait before ordering a ton of the wrong cables!  |
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nexus99
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October 07, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
Last edit: October 07, 2013, 11:50:14 PM by nexus99 |
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Hi all,
A roll up for those keeping score:
Known Working Coolers:
Cooler-Master Hyper 212 Evo (These coolers look HUGE!)
I am going to try out ARCTIC Accelero Twin Turbo II VGA Coolers on my cards.
Known good TIM:
11.0 watt/mk thermal pad - unknown dimensions and thickness
17.0 watt/mk thermal pad - unknown dimensions and thickness
Known Working PSU:
Looks like the board takes a 6 pin PSU connector. If you are going to use these boards with an existing PC seems like you should be able to power a number of them with the same PSU powering the Mobo... depending on the size of the PSU.
Anyone know the peak wattage on these cards?
PCIe Card Brackets:
No good sourcing on these yet.
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 08:24:52 PM |
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Known good TIM:
11.0 watt/mk thermal pad - unknown dimensions and thickness
17.0 watt/mk thermal pad - unknown dimensions and thickness
The dimensions are about 33mm x 33mm required for each board, so just multiply up from there. The thickness should be the minimum possible, so buy the 0.5mm thickness - the thicker the TIM the worse the performance, and the 0.5mm is plenty thick enough to cover any height differentials there might be. |
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nexus99
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October 07, 2013, 08:42:28 PM |
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I will be sticking a couple Chili's and a Drillbit board into this machine. I think I will need coolers that let me keep the boards vertical like a regular PCIe card.  |
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 08:47:44 PM |
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I will be sticking a couple Chili's and a Drillbit board into this machine. I think I will need coolers that let me keep the boards vertical like a regular PCIe card. Nice setup! I am hoping those coolers will be OK for running with the cards vertical - I have quite a lot of boards coming and so also need to achieve reasonable density. I can't see why they wouldn't be OK, they'll just take up quite a lot of horizontal room is all, so you won't be able to get one in each slot in that setup. I will probably just buy a few blocks of wood and cut slots in them and stick the cards in that... Not elegant but it'll get the job done :/ You can get the density up by using GPU coolers (as above), but it really does ramp up the cost quite a bit if you're getting a lot of boards! |
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nexus99
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October 07, 2013, 09:00:32 PM
Last edit: October 07, 2013, 09:49:43 PM by nexus99 |
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I will be sticking a couple Chili's and a Drillbit board into this machine.
I think I will need coolers that let me keep the boards vertical like a regular PCIe card.
Nice setup! I am hoping those coolers will be OK for running with the cards vertical - I have quite a lot of boards coming and so also need to achieve reasonable density. I can't see why they wouldn't be OK, they'll just take up quite a lot of horizontal room is all, so you won't be able to get one in each slot in that setup. I will probably just buy a few blocks of wood and cut slots in them and stick the cards in that... Not elegant but it'll get the job done :/ You can get the density up by using GPU coolers (as above), but it really does ramp up the cost quite a bit if you're getting a lot of boards! I am leaning toward something like the Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo II (as described earlier) right now. It will work better in my environment. I have no idea what all kinds of boards will be attaching to this in the future... but I will try to keep them fitting like PCIe cards. I see a Twin Turbo II for 39 on New Egg. |
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mmmerlin
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October 07, 2013, 10:11:03 PM |
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I see a Twin Turbo II for 39 on New Egg.
That's awesome if it's right! Just check it's the right model as I can't see anything correct for that price... |
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mmmerlin
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October 08, 2013, 12:26:33 AM |
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For those wondering about USB cable type, I just got confirmation from MrTeal that it's a standard mini-USB camera type cable (NB not a micro-USB phone style).
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October 08, 2013, 03:39:08 AM |
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October 08, 2013, 03:54:27 AM |
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I just discovered this forum is alive again.
It's looking like our schedule MIGHT slip by 1 or 2 days (not weeks!). This is primarily due to the customer in the assembly house ahead of us is taking 1 to 1.5 days longer than anticipated. So although some Chilis should ship by this Friday, some will likely slip to early next week. I will try and post a couple of photos of the work in progress if time permits.
Confirm: yes mini-USB cable, NOT micro-USB cable.
As others have stated, you will need a computer with an internet connection and mining software. The board needs a heatsink with fan and a mini-USB cable. If you wish, you will also need to buy a PCI slot mounting bracket.
Said a different way, we are only sending the card with the ASICs mounted on them. All other "stuff" is not supplied.
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mmmerlin
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October 08, 2013, 10:27:07 AM |
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I just discovered this forum is alive again.
Welcome back! It's looking like our schedule MIGHT slip by 1 or 2 days (not weeks!). This is primarily due to the customer in the assembly house ahead of us is taking 1 to 1.5 days longer than anticipated. So although some Chilis should ship by this Friday, some will likely slip to early next week. I will try and post a couple of photos of the work in progress if time permits.
Unbelievable! Next you'll be saying you can produce "at least 400 units a day" and that you're "ramping up production" whilst "working weekends"... OK, I'll stop, I don't think we need emphasise how much more awesome you two are than BFL - actions speak louder than words, and your actions are brilliant! As always, pics of it how it all goes down are cool, so +1 to that!  As others have stated, you will need a computer with an internet connection and mining software. The board needs a heatsink with fan and a mini-USB cable. If you wish, you will also need to buy a PCI slot mounting bracket.
Whilst you say it in the next comment, it is worth emphasising that you do NOT NEED A PCI SLOT! These are only on the cards for pretty / to make mounting easier, they are not for connection (hence the USB cable). Just hammering this point home as there appears to be some confusion around this! Also, you need TIM as well as a cooler & fan... And I was kind of joking when I said a host with internet, kind of hope everyone here knows that already, but you never know... Said a different way, we are only sending the card with the ASICs mounted on them. All other "stuff" is not supplied.
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October 08, 2013, 10:33:51 AM |
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mmmerlin
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October 08, 2013, 10:46:02 AM |
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The cooler I'll let ChipGeek/MrTeal confirm (though there are cheaper and probably better performing options listed above fwiw). However, the TIM does not look good to me. It's a lot less conductive than the ones listed above, and although a little thinner, it's not enough to make up for the much lower thermal conductivity, so I would go with the one listed instead. |
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