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October 08, 2013, 12:51:33 AM |
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Well, everyone has different ideas - I guess anyone could put things up for a vote. I don't have a preference, I've mined on nearly all pools, I pretty much like them all. The GB can vote however they want for whatever pool they want - it's a DZ democratic GB  I just have things pointed to Eligius because it's easy for everyone to look at the accounts without needing to log in. |
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Tiennou74
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October 08, 2013, 12:55:43 AM |
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How is everything looking? The heat? the global GH/s? Give us some details!  And congratz on hitting the target! Also did you guys finalize the R5/R6 spreadsheet? |
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October 08, 2013, 12:56:23 AM |
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One share one vote I will spend my votes on polmine.pl After ddos of btcguild, terrible luck on bitminter, 19h blocks and eu stratum fails on slush polmine is safe heaven for me. Months of uptime and no share loss when switching pool/reboot/maintance, on slush all your hashing is wasted. |
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philipma1957
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October 08, 2013, 01:03:16 AM |
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oh happy day it works!!. I say bitminter but would not mind trying out the Polish Pool. I am flexible.
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floatyfish
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October 08, 2013, 01:11:07 AM |
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-Redacted-, could you give us an update on the 2nd miner that's shipping?
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If you feel like donating: 1NtgJf4znCsA5GJDCbqtowHL2143WyqLkC
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October 08, 2013, 01:13:05 AM |
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How is everything looking? The heat? the global GH/s? Give us some details! And congratz on hitting the target! Also did you guys finalize the R5/R6 spreadsheet? Maybe 250/300 watts coming off it, heatsinks are warm to the touch, not hot. I have it switching between GB5 and GB6 every ten minutes on Eligius. You can look for yourself. That should almost be enough time to see the max hashrate in the 2 minute average before it switches to the other GB. It will take the 3 hour some time to stablize, I'm going to let it run that way overnight. There will be a short outage tomorrow since I have to work on the case fan that isn't running, and get the case put back together.... No, I was going to finish up R5 this evening, but I'm just too tired since I was up at 3:00 am this morning. Should have the payout spreadsheets double checked tomorrow and I'll post parts of them to allow people to verify... |
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October 08, 2013, 01:17:23 AM |
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-Redacted-, could you give us an update on the 2nd miner that's shipping?
Don't have a tracking number yet for the second and third miners - expected to receive at least the tracking numbers for them today. Nothing yet on the fourth and fifth miners - they're both day-1 in the 35x range, but just sitting there at PAID. I just checked the KNC website - no status change. I was told on the phone last week that box 2 and 3 would probably arrive here on Thursday, but it isn't looking much like that at the moment to me. I'll let everyone know the second anything changes. |
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Tiennou74
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October 08, 2013, 01:25:48 AM |
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Just wondering.
Why the 10min switch? Better than splitting in half?
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October 08, 2013, 01:31:01 AM |
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Balance doesn't seem to work very well, it seems like it does more of a 60/40. Switching back and forth seems to do a better job of splitting the hashrate evenly since each gets 100% for ten minutes. Have to see what the graphs look like in the morning.
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Miramyn
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October 08, 2013, 01:52:52 AM |
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Are we going PPS on the pools or PPLNS?
If just PPS I would suggest 50btc over BTCGuild just on pay rates on those 2 sites
0.0000001281162296 BTC (50btc) vs 0.0000001221726934 (BTCGuild).
Just my 0.02 btc
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When I was younger we didn't have behavioural disorders. They called it "being a brat". It was as simple as that!
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thomas_s
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October 08, 2013, 02:02:01 AM |
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Are we going PPS on the pools or PPLNS?
If just PPS I would suggest 50btc over BTCGuild just on pay rates on those 2 sites
0.0000001281162296 BTC (50btc) vs 0.0000001221726934 (BTCGuild).
Just my 0.02 btc
PPS gives a more stable payout PPLNS usually gives a higher payout in the long term. |
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October 08, 2013, 02:05:07 AM |
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Eligius is a capped PPS with back pay, but I don't know the PPS rate. You are correct that 50 BTC pretty much beats the PPS rates on all other pools
On BTCGuild I would run PPLNS. It looks like it will turn out to be a decent payout for that 15 minutes I was running there. Won't know exactly how much until another 7 shifts close. EMC pays out pretty well too - that's a DGM pool.
Lots of different choices available to us - the GB will just have to put together a vote and vote their shares to make the final decisions about pools....
Once the GB are on separate machines, you could even do like I do - split the hashrate between PPS and PPLNS pools. I usually have 1/2 my hashrate going to a private pool, and 1/2 going to BTCGuild. That gets me fairly constant payments and smooths out the variance from the private pool - which tends to pay a lot more, but much less frequently.
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October 08, 2013, 02:24:39 AM |
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OK - Eligius is getting DDOSed and is completely unusable, again. I switched the mining back to private BTCGuild servers and intend to leave it pointed there overnight. I'll report on the earnings for the two GBs in the morning....
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October 08, 2013, 02:51:14 AM
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Do you have an "account per round" type setup on BTCGuild? It should be fairly trivial to write a wordpress plugin to include stats for the accounts on each group's page if such a thing doesn't already exist. A somewhat ugly one is literally this simple even. |
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Ashitank
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October 08, 2013, 04:52:52 AM |
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Hey Redacted thanks for working hard & getting jupiter up & running.
Note on Jupiter blow-up issues : NOT to plug / unplug your miner power cables while it is powered up or it will surge the boards and kill them.
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masterof101010
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October 08, 2013, 05:35:28 AM |
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I'd never used Eligius, but from looking at it ... assuming they don't remain regularly DDos ed it would be my vote. The two pools to which i've subscribed are deepbit and 50BTC. Deepbit i've spent the most time in cuz they generally remain stable, and 50BTC I only started using, they have good payouts.
I bet those pics of popped cap's on burnt boards is from people overvolting and trying to push their overclock even further then it's designed input voltage permit's. The same would probably occur if you did what Ashitank said but who in their right mind would ever plug/unplug miner cables while it's powered? I have enough confidence in what -r- has already done to get this GB in motion to know he knows better then that.
When you've got things sorted ... that is, put back together I vote that you overclock it to just under the highest tolerance you find when testing it. Cuz it's gonna be at bobsag's place with his/your airconditioning, and these miner's aren't like hardware we have the need to perform for years. A few month's and their practically gonna be metal boxes with breadboards covered in caps, resistors, and ASIC modules whose output is a magnitude or two too small for any practical use. So I say ride that Jupiter into the Sun.
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October 08, 2013, 06:40:01 AM |
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Well I was proposing Elgius as primary, but I was open to failover pools. What do you guys think: are the higher fees of the "giants of mining" (50 & BTCGuild) worth the higher likelihood of winning ASIC lottery tickets?Awesome job -R-! BTW: Do you have a magic paper clip that helps to keep magic smoke inside the box? I  when I saw that's basically part of the instructions. |
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mootinator
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October 08, 2013, 06:55:19 AM |
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Well I was proposing Elgius as primary, but I was open to failover pools. What do you guys think: are the higher fees of the "giants of mining" (50 & BTCGuild) worth the higher likelihood of winning ASIC lottery tickets?Awesome job -R-! BTW: Do you have a magic paper clip that helps to keep magic smoke inside the box? I when I saw that's basically part of the instructions. I'll echo the opinion that Elgius sounds good, as long as it's stable, otherwise I'm partial to PPLNS/BTCGuild. The background color on Elgius' stats page makes my eyes bleed. Even pulling in a simple summary from the json api to the coop page might be nice. |
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October 08, 2013, 07:00:31 AM |
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polmine pps is PPS: 0.000000130757801 BTC
( SMPPS (Shared Maximum Pay Per Share). It's same like PPS (Pay Per Share), but mining pool will never pays more than it earns. This is for protect against the loss of profitability of our mining pool. )
so it is not robbery like 7% it is only 1% and you have NMC also
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October 08, 2013, 07:11:16 AM
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Well I was proposing Elgius as primary, but I was open to failover pools. What do you guys think: are the higher fees of the "giants of mining" (50 & BTCGuild) worth the higher likelihood of winning ASIC lottery tickets?Awesome job -R-! BTW: Do you have a magic paper clip that helps to keep magic smoke inside the box? I when I saw that's basically part of the instructions. BTCGuild and 50BTC offer something in return for their very reasonable fees - consistent earnings. I used to mine at Slush quite a bit, and they aren't one of the smaller pools. They could hit 20 to 24 blocks per day when luck was running hot, but still had days where a 14 hour block and a 7 hour block could take you down to just 5 block a day, or 1/5 of the income as compared to better days. But it all averages out - I find BTCG, 50BTC, Slush, EMC, Eligius, GigaVPS, BitMinter, OzCoin and even HHTT all pay out roughly the same over a long period of time if you mine on them consistently. I've spent many, many months of sending the same amount of hashrate to multiple pools and comparing the payouts over longer periods of time - weeks at a time - including the little bit extra you get for merged mining on some pools, and they're all virtually identical, payout wise, long term. That's why I don't much like merged mining - it adds a great deal more hassle for the same returns. These days I make 30 to 40% more than I would straight mining by switching betweeen pools under certain conditions. You would probably call what I do pool hopping, but of course no one can do that, because all the pools will tell you that they are hop-proof, right? No magic paperclip. I use something a little bit more classy than a paperclip, and I'm always looking for an excuse to order more stuff from the robot shop: http://www.robotshop.com/cytron-atx-power-supply-breakout-board-right-angle-2.html -R-  |
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