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Author Topic: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts!  (Read 274514 times)
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February 21, 2017, 04:56:23 AM
 #1901

i love this bot, it made me so much money!

Care to share your strategy or is it a secret?

Been trying this bot out for the last few months and pretty much most of the strageies I've created have made no money or lost money. The strategies that worked in the past, failed to work in the future.

Honestly the only sure way of winning any actual money would be to start with the faucet however due to the Captcha and small faucet amounts, its not possible.
Don't trust him, there is no such thing called strategy in gambling. Seunjti already said if this bot doesn't increase your winning chance or you will always win in gambling. This bot only make your bet easier and you can try any strategy with this bot.

I know.

The only method that I think that might work supposedly is as follows.

Say the house edge is 1%. So you got 51 Losses and 49 Wins every 100 Bets.

So probalistically after 100,000 bets you should have 51,000 Losses and 49,000 Wins.


However say you program the bot to detect huge shifts in the bets.

For example,

Say after 10,000 bets you are at losing 6000 Bets and won only 4000 Bets. According to the house edge and probability law, you should have 5100 Losses and 4900 Wins. So for the next 5000 bets or so you should roll more wins than losses to bring the house edge back to parity.

I haven't tried this method yet.

I like your way of thinking. Have you made any headway on trying this method out yet? I am very curious what the results will show and of course your angle of attack.

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February 21, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
Last edit: February 21, 2017, 09:52:46 PM by cmbconcretefire
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To the dicebot man......

  First, I am a new-ish user. I get the gist of it but there seems to be some bugs, even in the latest release.

Second, I doubt very seriously if they are bugs, but rather me doing something wrong. I'm playing on 999Dice with 2FA enabled and it lets me log in fine, etc. All good. One annoying thing I've noticed is that if I stop the bot and then (sometimes??) reset the chart and then start the bot again, the charting will start off correctly going up and down, etc....but then after maybe 25-50ish bets no matter if I win 50 times in a row or lose 50 times in a row the chart doesn't reflect up or down changes. It DOES correctly color wins and losses but the graph line literally looks like this > --------------------------------------------

Last night I finally got wise and stopped the bot, shut it down, restarted it, made sure all my settings were correct and then hit "start high" and the graph worked perfectly after that, all night long. Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong to cause the graph to not report correctly?

Also, for whatever reason last night, 999Dice came to a dead CRAWL on bets. So much so that I restarted it again this morning and logged back in. No troubles so far.

I have left this bot running for over 48hrs straight on 999Dice and the graph is beautiful. Smiley A nice and steady rise. (Stumbled on a killer setting) So I don't know what's up with it seemingly stopping or slowing down for no reason. I don't have ANY stop conditions. I'm winning just letting it run and run and run..... Thoughts?

Also, these "settings" that I am using and found elsewhere, it seems like the settings that ARE NOT EVEN ENABLED, if changed from the original formula I found which also DID NOT HAVE those same settings enabled.....it seems like even if I change those numbers, but still not enable them, the winning doesn't happen anymore. Sad

I literally copy every single number from the original formula I found, even if the original isn't enabled. To me, it should make no difference but I swear it does, OR, it's completely in my head. But when I copy every number exactly, enabled or not from the original formula, it works beautifully. I don't understand that. Thoughts?

Last, if I'm winning with this formula, the "coin" I use should not matter. Correct? I mean, the settings are the settings. Do the sites somehow magically know when you've changed from Doge Coin to Bitcoin or Litecoin? I haven't been brave enough to test that yet because what I have going on, I figure is too good to be true. I'm using Doge Coin and I've consistently let it run 48 hrs at a pop and I consistently get the same exact results > a slow and sure graph that goes up and up and up and the profits match it. Smiley Thoughts?

Thanks.
PS.....was going to include a screenshot but cant figure out how to insert an image.
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February 22, 2017, 01:13:46 AM
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Most likely an issue with the data being received from 999Dice...

The bot can only calculate and report on the values it gets returned by the various APIs... I've had instances where the chart suddenly does a fantastic jump because the response from the server was messed up. My balance and everything was OK.

Also, the scale of the graph is dynamic. It changes as your profit goes up/down... so you can get a situation where if your profit per roll is only like 1 unit, but the scale on the left is relatively large (say measured in 100000's of units for instance) it will make the line look very flat...

what sort of bet size and profit per roll are you getting?


Can't really comment on the rest of your questions, because without knowing the settings, it is impossible to tell what is happening... to insert an image, you need to upload it to an image sharing site like imgur and then use the [ img] tags (Imgur will actually generate them if you click the "share" button on the Imgur website... you want the BBCode link Wink )

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February 22, 2017, 04:12:58 AM
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Also, the "donate" button doesn't work. I click donate at the standard setting of 1.00% and it gives me some unexpected exception error.
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February 22, 2017, 05:55:06 AM
Last edit: February 22, 2017, 06:05:17 AM by snsrjsgh
 #1905

Some files in this bot will be deleted by anti-virus software.
Could you certify that this bot is safe by companys of anti-virus software?
Also, can I use this bot in Linux?
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February 22, 2017, 07:15:55 AM
 #1906

i love this bot, it made me so much money!

Care to share your strategy or is it a secret?

Been trying this bot out for the last few months and pretty much most of the strageies I've created have made no money or lost money. The strategies that worked in the past, failed to work in the future.

Honestly the only sure way of winning any actual money would be to start with the faucet however due to the Captcha and small faucet amounts, its not possible.
Don't trust him, there is no such thing called strategy in gambling. Seunjti already said if this bot doesn't increase your winning chance or you will always win in gambling. This bot only make your bet easier and you can try any strategy with this bot.

I know.

The only method that I think that might work supposedly is as follows.

Say the house edge is 1%. So you got 51 Losses and 49 Wins every 100 Bets.

So probalistically after 100,000 bets you should have 51,000 Losses and 49,000 Wins.


However say you program the bot to detect huge shifts in the bets.

For example,

Say after 10,000 bets you are at losing 6000 Bets and won only 4000 Bets. According to the house edge and probability law, you should have 5100 Losses and 4900 Wins. So for the next 5000 bets or so you should roll more wins than losses to bring the house edge back to parity.

I haven't tried this method yet.

I like your way of thinking. Have you made any headway on trying this method out yet? I am very curious what the results will show and of course your angle of attack.

I tried to perform it once in the past but the problem is that the dice sites are too slow to generate the rolls.

For example if you are waiting for 10,000 bets it can take up to 10,000 seconds which is almost 3 hours. And most likely those 10,000 bets will result in a result close to 50/50. So you will need to perform more 10,000 bets and see if you can get one that is skewed in your favor.

So you will need multiple computers, multiple accounts, multiple casinos,etc.

Seems like alot of work AND there is no gaurantee that it will work for sure.
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February 22, 2017, 07:58:53 AM
 #1907

To the dicebot man......
Just Seuntjie is fine

 First, I am a new-ish user. I get the gist of it but there seems to be some bugs, even in the latest release.

Second, I doubt very seriously if they are bugs, but rather me doing something wrong. I'm playing on 999Dice with 2FA enabled and it lets me log in fine, etc. All good. One annoying thing I've noticed is that if I stop the bot and then (sometimes??) reset the chart and then start the bot again, the charting will start off correctly going up and down, etc....but then after maybe 25-50ish bets no matter if I win 50 times in a row or lose 50 times in a row the chart doesn't reflect up or down changes. It DOES correctly color wins and losses but the graph line literally looks like this > --------------------------------------------
I've never experienced this. I'll try to reproduce it.

Last night I finally got wise and stopped the bot, shut it down, restarted it, made sure all my settings were correct and then hit "start high" and the graph worked perfectly after that, all night long. Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong to cause the graph to not report correctly?

Also, for whatever reason last night, 999Dice came to a dead CRAWL on bets. So much so that I restarted it again this morning and logged back in. No troubles so far.

I have left this bot running for over 48hrs straight on 999Dice and the graph is beautiful. Smiley A nice and steady rise. (Stumbled on a killer setting) So I don't know what's up with it seemingly stopping or slowing down for no reason. I don't have ANY stop conditions. I'm winning just letting it run and run and run..... Thoughts?
The chart start taking up more and more memory after a few thousand bets and the bot become sluggish, as it needs to plot hundreds MBs of data to the chart the whole time. If you plan to run the bot for more than a few hours non stop, disable the live chart and use the charts in the view menu when you need to use a chart

Also, these "settings" that I am using and found elsewhere, it seems like the settings that ARE NOT EVEN ENABLED, if changed from the original formula I found which also DID NOT HAVE those same settings enabled.....it seems like even if I change those numbers, but still not enable them, the winning doesn't happen anymore. Sad

I literally copy every single number from the original formula I found, even if the original isn't enabled. To me, it should make no difference but I swear it does, OR, it's completely in my head. But when I copy every number exactly, enabled or not from the original formula, it works beautifully. I don't understand that. Thoughts?
Sounds like a gamblers fallacy to me.


Last, if I'm winning with this formula, the "coin" I use should not matter. Correct? I mean, the settings are the settings. Do the sites somehow magically know when you've changed from Doge Coin to Bitcoin or Litecoin? I haven't been brave enough to test that yet because what I have going on, I figure is too good to be true. I'm using Doge Coin and I've consistently let it run 48 hrs at a pop and I consistently get the same exact results > a slow and sure graph that goes up and up and up and the profits match it. Smiley Thoughts?

Thanks.
PS.....was going to include a screenshot but cant figure out how to insert an image.
Of course the site knows which coin your betting in, they have to process the bet. But they're not monitoring your rolls to make you lose if you use a different currency. The provably fair system makes it impossible for them to do so without the user being able to be detected.

I just want to make sure you understand that there is no betting system that will profit indefinitely. You will get unlucky at some point and lose. Gambling should always be for fun and not for profit.

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February 22, 2017, 08:00:05 AM
Last edit: February 22, 2017, 09:36:06 AM by seuntjie
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Also, the "donate" button doesn't work. I click donate at the standard setting of 1.00% and it gives me some unexpected exception error.

On what site are you trying to donate?
Also, what are the exception message and details?

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February 22, 2017, 08:01:41 AM
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Some files in this bot will be deleted by anti-virus software.
Could you certify that this bot is safe by companys of anti-virus software?
Also, can I use this bot in Linux?

Anti-virus programs flags just about anything that is not signed with a software signing certificate, which I cannot afford. The bot is safe.
No, it's a .net program which is (for now) only running on windows.

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February 24, 2017, 10:47:15 AM
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Hi, what is the fastest gambling site the bot works?
I know that bigger bets means faster bets, but any site in particular have a higher speed?
Thank you

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BetKing
Betterbets
Bitdice
Bitsler
BitVest.IO
CoinMillions
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KingDice
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Provably.IO
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February 24, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
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Hi, what is the fastest gambling site the bot works?
I know that bigger bets means faster bets, but any site in particular have a higher speed?
Thank you

Why not try by yourself? Honestly i didn't tried all those sites, i've just tried Bitsler, Justdice, and Safedice. I can say bitsler is faster from these sites i tried. Not sure if we can run fortunejack on seunjti bot, last time i tried, there is a problem with their couldflare.
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February 24, 2017, 11:08:25 AM
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Hi, what is the fastest gambling site the bot works?
I know that bigger bets means faster bets, but any site in particular have a higher speed?
Thank you

999Dice
BetKing
Betterbets
Bitdice
Bitsler
BitVest.IO
CoinMillions
crypto-games
FortuneJack
Just-dice
KingDice
Monerodice
MoneyPot
NitrogenSports
Prime Dice
Provably.IO
Rollin.IO
SafeDice
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Currently YoloDice is the fastest by far. I think my moneypot app is the fastest after that. Bitvest and rollin is also pretty fast. I think the rest are all about the same speed.

I don't really have good data on this. My internet is extremely slow, most sites are only slow because my internets latency is too high and transfer speeds are too low. Some users with better internet and that are closer to the servers might have better info on that.


Why not try by yourself? Honestly i didn't tried all those sites, i've just tried Bitsler, Justdice, and Safedice. I can say bitsler is faster from these sites i tried. Not sure if we can run fortunejack on seunjti bot, last time i tried, there is a problem with their couldflare.

Fortunejack still doesn't work

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February 24, 2017, 11:21:31 AM
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Hi, what is the fastest gambling site the bot works?
I know that bigger bets means faster bets, but any site in particular have a higher speed?
Thank you

999Dice
BetKing
Betterbets
Bitdice
Bitsler
BitVest.IO
CoinMillions
crypto-games
FortuneJack
Just-dice
KingDice
Monerodice
MoneyPot
NitrogenSports
Prime Dice
Provably.IO
Rollin.IO
SafeDice
Satoshi Dice
WealthyDice
YoloDice



Currently YoloDice is the fastest by far. I think my moneypot app is the fastest after that. Bitvest and rollin is also pretty fast. I think the rest are all about the same speed.

I don't really have good data on this. My internet is extremely slow, most sites are only slow because my internets latency is too high and transfer speeds are too low. Some users with better internet and that are closer to the servers might have better info on that.


Why not try by yourself? Honestly i didn't tried all those sites, i've just tried Bitsler, Justdice, and Safedice. I can say bitsler is faster from these sites i tried. Not sure if we can run fortunejack on seunjti bot, last time i tried, there is a problem with their couldflare.

Fortunejack still doesn't work

KingDice.com has play.php response of 160ms, not something that can be easily beaten lol

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February 24, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
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Seuntjie,

A quick question regarding the "Maximum Bets" value in the stats window... is that the Bot's best "guess" at how many bets I can make using current settings before the dreaded "Bet is larger than Balance" message appears? Wink




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February 25, 2017, 08:05:54 AM
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Seuntjie,

A quick question regarding the "Maximum Bets" value in the stats window... is that the Bot's best "guess" at how many bets I can make using current settings before the dreaded "Bet is larger than Balance" message appears? Wink





Yeah, it's a GUESS. It only works with martingale and takes only a few calculations into account. I wouldn't use it if you don't have the most basic martingale settings set. I've actually been planning on removing it from the bot.

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February 26, 2017, 01:39:06 AM
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Hey seuntjie, i have problem with your bot, can you check this for me?
this is bot i try login on rollin and start the bot for the first time yes its working fine but after few minutes about 30 minutes or so bot will stop working and get notice "You need to be logged in." but when i click the button start bet Hi/Low its running well again and dont need to re-login. so what happened? this problem with your bot or with rollin? Thanks


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February 26, 2017, 08:02:22 AM
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Hey seuntjie, i have problem with your bot, can you check this for me?
this is bot i try login on rollin and start the bot for the first time yes its working fine but after few minutes about 30 minutes or so bot will stop working and get notice "You need to be logged in." but when i click the button start bet Hi/Low its running well again and dont need to re-login. so what happened? this problem with your bot or with rollin? Thanks



This is most likely your computer time that is slightly off. make sure your computers time is correct to the second.

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February 26, 2017, 10:58:07 AM
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i love this bot, it made me so much money!

Care to share your strategy or is it a secret?

Been trying this bot out for the last few months and pretty much most of the strageies I've created have made no money or lost money. The strategies that worked in the past, failed to work in the future.

Honestly the only sure way of winning any actual money would be to start with the faucet however due to the Captcha and small faucet amounts, its not possible.
Don't trust him, there is no such thing called strategy in gambling. Seunjti already said if this bot doesn't increase your winning chance or you will always win in gambling. This bot only make your bet easier and you can try any strategy with this bot.

I know.

The only method that I think that might work supposedly is as follows.

Say the house edge is 1%. So you got 51 Losses and 49 Wins every 100 Bets.

So probalistically after 100,000 bets you should have 51,000 Losses and 49,000 Wins.


However say you program the bot to detect huge shifts in the bets.

For example,

Say after 10,000 bets you are at losing 6000 Bets and won only 4000 Bets. According to the house edge and probability law, you should have 5100 Losses and 4900 Wins. So for the next 5000 bets or so you should roll more wins than losses to bring the house edge back to parity.

I haven't tried this method yet.

I like your way of thinking. Have you made any headway on trying this method out yet? I am very curious what the results will show and of course your angle of attack.

Good luck with your strategy - but don't the odd reset each time you bet?
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February 26, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
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Can we have duckdice.io added to your bot too? It will be really good if we are able to roll that site through your bot.
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February 26, 2017, 04:35:10 PM
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Hey seuntjie, i have problem with your bot, can you check this for me?
this is bot i try login on rollin and start the bot for the first time yes its working fine but after few minutes about 30 minutes or so bot will stop working and get notice "You need to be logged in." but when i click the button start bet Hi/Low its running well again and dont need to re-login. so what happened? this problem with your bot or with rollin? Thanks
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This is most likely your computer time that is slightly off. make sure your computers time is correct to the second.

okay, i will change my computer time +0 UTC . thanks Smiley

Edit: i have another problem, after i change my computer time and trying to relogin and then i start the bot but got notice "insufficient balance". i guess this error now from API rollin or something else  Huh


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