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March 12, 2018, 05:44:42 PM
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No response from Quickseller?

QS - Whether Vod sees this as a useless thread or not, his thread provides better evidence than threads you've created recently where you seem unable to show any real evidence, even though you've claimed to have it.
 
In this thread, I'm at least seeing a 20btc transaction coming from TradeFortress to you and no real evidence that you did anything with it. Which has a few implications and potential conclusions that you would draw yourself if, as an example, someone like Lauda were to do something similar in the past. I'm assuming you will have some decent evidence to defend yourself here and show that you did pursue a petition to the ISP and that this wasn't a fake transaction?  There would certainly be evidence of this?  

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March 12, 2018, 06:22:41 PM
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Very interesting that QS still hasn't replied.
No response from Quickseller?
There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged, to the extent that the OP is likely operating in bad faith (in multiple ways).

In fact, it is even mentioned in the OP that this thread is useless (has no basis in fact).


threads you've created recently
In those cases, lauda has explicitly acknowledged the allegations and attempted to derail the threads by trolling them. Further he very much implicitly denied the allegations both before and after he explicitly said he would not respond to the allegations, which is prima-face evidence that lauda was both trying to say that he denied the subject allegations and later claim he was not lying if/when additional evidence is presented to backup said allegations.   

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March 12, 2018, 06:41:03 PM
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There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged

How so?  You can't deny he sent you $200,000

You can't deny you didn't contact my ISP.

He paid you to do something that you did not do!

Now, are you going to send those coins to charity, or keep stolen goods?

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March 12, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
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Very interesting that QS still hasn't replied.
No response from Quickseller?
There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged, to the extent that the OP is likely operating in bad faith (in multiple ways).

In fact, it is even mentioned in the OP that this thread is useless (has no basis in fact).


threads you've created recently
In those cases, lauda has explicitly acknowledged the allegations and attempted to derail the threads by trolling them. Further he very much implicitly denied the allegations both before and after he explicitly said he would not respond to the allegations, which is prima-face evidence that lauda was both trying to say that he denied the subject allegations and later claim he was not lying if/when additional evidence is presented to backup said allegations.    

Blockchain evidence

vs

Things Quickseller says

That's a tough one.

LOL.

No.

But it's hilarious, mostly in the hypocrisy department. "The OP is likely operating in bad faith (in multiple ways)" describes most threads QS creates. QS is basically admitting that he's trowing shit at the wall and hoping that "additional evidence" will surface at some point in the future.

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March 12, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
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There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged

How so?  You can't deny he sent you $200,000

to be fair, the title is a bit disingenuous. the allegation is that QS received 20 BTC from TF. at the time, BTC was trading ~ $230, putting the amount netted ~ $4600.

also, it's conceivable (perhaps unlikely) that QS claimed to have received funds but never actually did. we don't have evidence that he posted the address in question. he could have done this as a scare tactic. however, this doesn't explain the involvement of the TF account.

He paid you to do something that you did not do!

what was the actual agreement?

You know the first won't happen. Self moderated threads are self moderated and the OP may do so as they please; they've been there since the inception of the forum with "Local Rules".

I agree that Vod should certainly be removed from DefaultTrust. His remarks disparaging you as a scammer could fall under Canadian defamatory law; given the business activities you conduct on bitcointalk and the damages Vod's remarks could have on you, you might be interested in pursing civil action. And you'll get justice on Vod.

@Quickseller, I'll contribute 20 BTC towards a civil lawsuit against Vod. One of his email addresses is mlawrence02@yahoo.com , as given here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95795.msg1070760#msg1070760

You may be able to subpoena Yahoo Canada for his IP address (via a John Doe-style civil suit), and then subpoena the ISP for account holder details.

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March 13, 2018, 07:28:02 AM
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There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged

How so?  You can't deny he sent you $200,000

You can't deny you didn't contact my ISP.

He paid you to do something that you did not do!

Now, are you going to send those coins to charity, or keep stolen goods?

MOAR SKAMS!

QS is the lowest of the low, anyone you associate with is the same by default. I am greatly surprised that you haven't spent these coins yet..

so what are you going to do? man up and return the funds? send them to charity?

or just keep and become even more scummy?

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March 13, 2018, 10:41:23 AM
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I remember a while back that BadBear told me he used to be positive QS was TradeFortress, but then over time didn't believe it anymore. I wonder if there was any IP evidence tying them together somehow? I  think it's probably more likely QS bought that account than them being truly the same person but I guess you never know. If I recall correctly QS had thread trying to buy Donator/ VIP accounts at one point.

This is also possible:


also, it's conceivable (perhaps unlikely) that QS claimed to have received funds but never actually did. we don't have evidence that he posted the address in question. he could have done this as a scare tactic. however, this doesn't explain the involvement of the TF account.



Maybe TF just sent money to himself and gave QS an address to post publicly.

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March 13, 2018, 03:05:15 PM
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There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged, to the extent that the OP is likely operating in bad faith (in multiple ways).
I took the implied accusations in this thread as an attempt to mock your recent threads, combined with possibly a bit of retaliation. I realize this thread may have been started for other reasons or to make a point, in a witty/mocking sort of way, but your threads have similar characteristics and I look for any facts or evidence you may present that is worth looking at, as I've done here.

As was the case with an outrageous claim about a pill addiction, you started it with zero evidence (but the possibility of good evidence) and ultimately just made statements about a secret source whom you would never name nor present any evidence the source gave you. Vod is starting this thread maybe with a bit of subjective mocking but also providing blockchain & post evidence showing TF sent you 20BTC for the purpose of a civil action lawsuit against Vod and you appear to have received it and never did anything with it. Is it your claim you did pursue a lawsuit or are you denying this transaction ever happened?  I'm curious what your stance is here?


threads you've created recently
In those cases, lauda has explicitly acknowledged the allegations and attempted to derail the threads by trolling them. Further he very much implicitly denied the allegations both before and after he explicitly said he would not respond to the allegations, which is prima-face evidence that lauda was both trying to say that he denied the subject allegations and later claim he was not lying if/when additional evidence is presented to backup said allegations.    

How is this prima facie evidence?
I'll agree he began the same trollish-like behavior on these threads that have been done in the past with other threads attacking him, which could be interpreted as a hypersensitive reaction for someone who is frequently attacked with threads of this nature.
Lauda implicitly or explicitly denying the allegation is a denial of the allegation.
Whether he said he was or was not going to respond beforehand doesn't seem relevant.

When you finish with "and later claim", this has not happened yet, and appears like speculation, so I've disregarded the rest of this sentence until additional evidence is presented.
Could this be prima facie evidence if your speculation comes true, maybe if any evidence is strong enough, but one will never know because you don't seem to be willing to show any evidence and this comes off as prima facie evidence that you are acting in bad faith.


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March 13, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
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I must admit the circumstantial evidence is quite damning. Quickseller, what did you do with the BTC? I think you hoodwinked Tradefortress.
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March 13, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
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Maybe TF just sent money to himself and gave QS an address to post publicly.

Nah, that's way too simple Grin

This is Quicksy we're talking about so the scheme should be appropriately wackadoodle.

Maybe there was an elaborate extortion involving voodoo dolls.
Maybe TF has a pistachio addiction.
Maybe QS had a brain transplant and TF was the donor.

Well, I'm clearly not up to the task, but if we completely disengage from reality à la Quicksy then there is no level of stupid we couldn't sink to.

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March 14, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
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There allegations in the OP are so outrageous that they do not deserve to be acknowledged, to the extent that the OP is likely operating in bad faith (in multiple ways).

Quickseller has here cadged valuable tutoring and consulting from me.  Compare the above to the underlined portions below, plus scores of other posts I made on the same and similar subjects.  Although he is misapplying the lesson insofar as Vod presented colourable evidence, that is not my fault; what matters is that he clearly used my instruction to craft his above-quoted response.

I do not give freebies; consider this to be my bill:  I deem my consulting in this case to be worth 1.31337 BTC.  Quickseller, tell me when you’re ready to pay for services rendered; whereupon I’ll post a fresh address.

Take notice that you must pay promptly.  Take further notice that if you fail to so do, I shall sue you in Internet Court and notify the management of Bitcoin to revoke your wallet.

Get this:  I am also “not interested in denying” that I have a drug addiction, that I just raped and murdered someone, or that I’m a Bcasher, because the accusations are outrageous on their face and there is no evidence whatsoever for them.

Quickseller, give EVIDENCE.  PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Lauda, in the absence of evidence, you are under no obligation whatsoever to deny, to explain why you won’t deny, or to do anything other than ridicule Quickseller as the obscene buffoon he is.




Thanks for the public notice, Vod.  I did not know about the link between Quickseller and TradeFortress; though of course, I read a bit about TradeFortress in the forum archives.

Being new here, I need to ask a question:  Other than a select few such as Mr. Nasty and TradeFortress, is there any well-known forum personality (past or present) with whom Quickseller does not have a fight?

I ask, because I was trying to compile a list of Quickseller’s enemies.  Whereupon I realized that perhaps the opposite task may be easier:  Compile a list of those who are not so.

Really, I can understand making some enemies.  (Really—I of all people can understand that.)  But when someone does most nothing but, that may be indicative.




This is Quicksy we're talking about so the scheme should be appropriately wackadoodle.

Maybe there was an elaborate extortion involving voodoo dolls.
Maybe TF has a pistachio addiction.
Maybe QS had a brain transplant and TF was the donor.

Well, I'm clearly not up to the task, but if we completely disengage from reality à la Quicksy then there is no level of stupid we couldn't sink to.

“They’re Quicksy and the Brain...”  (You did say “wackadoodle”.  Wait, TF is the Brain?)

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March 14, 2018, 04:08:47 AM
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Being new here, I need to ask a question:  Other than a select few such as Mr. Nasty and TradeFortress, is there any well-known forum personality (past or present) with whom Quickseller does not have a fight?

I'm fairly new too (but used to lurk here without an account) but have skimmed though some of the infamous accusation thread in here. Pretty sure in the "Lauda removed from DT" thread TMAN or someone else mentioned a link between QS and Tomatocage. Now I have little idea how true the claim is or is not but I guess it would be safe to say there isn't bad blood between QS and TC. So there's one more in the "known" personalities I suppose

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Being new here, I need to ask a question:  Other than a select few such as Mr. Nasty and TradeFortress, is there any well-known forum personality (past or present) with whom Quickseller does not have a fight?

I'm fairly new too (but used to lurk here without an account) but have skimmed though some of the infamous accusation thread in here. Pretty sure in the "Lauda removed from DT" thread TMAN or someone else mentioned a link between QS and Tomatocage. Now I have little idea how true the claim is or is not but I guess it would be safe to say there isn't bad blood between QS and TC. So there's one more in the "known" personalities I suppose

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I sincerely regret opening that link and then reading that description. The only question I have is why would someone go all that extent to define a term for something like that. What is the state of mind? Do they wake up thinking about the turd that stays stuck on their ass and wonder "I should define a term and lay the law that unwanted turds should only be referred to hence forth as a Stink Nugget" Cry

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I sincerely regret opening that link and then reading that description. The only question I have is why would someone go all that extent to define a term for something like that. What is the state of mind? Do they wake up thinking about the turd that stays stuck on their ass and wonder "I should define a term and lay the law that unwanted turds should only be referred to hence forth as a Stink Nugget" Cry

I believe that someone had the displeasure of meeting QS either online or IRL, then had a particular messy shit afterwards.. put two and two together and came up with the QS/Stink nugget combo?


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March 15, 2018, 12:16:14 AM
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Maybe TF just sent money to himself and gave QS an address to post publicly.

Nah, that's way too simple Grin

This is Quicksy we're talking about so the scheme should be appropriately wackadoodle.

Maybe there was an elaborate extortion involving voodoo dolls.
Maybe TF has a pistachio addiction.
Maybe QS had a brain transplant and TF was the donor.

Well, I'm clearly not up to the task, but if we completely disengage from reality à la Quicksy then there is no level of stupid we couldn't sink to.
Do not trust single word from this scam artist runing ponzi schemes and scamming around under his green trust rating.
Feel free to check his untrusted feedback and see who you are dealing with.
You were warned.

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March 15, 2018, 12:35:16 AM
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Well, I'm clearly not up to the task, but if we completely disengage from reality à la Quicksy then there is no level of stupid we couldn't sink to.
Do not trust single word from this scam artist runing ponzi schemes and scamming around under his green trust rating.
Feel free to check his untrusted feedback and see who you are dealing with.
You were warned.

Wow, you are funny.  Do you also do stand-up?

https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332066
You have 24 hours to remove the negative rep, or i will spend more than 1bitcoin to ruin your account down Smiley

https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332407
Also i will start buying every single stolen/hacked account with green trust to make your account look beautiful from the red side Smiley
Don't worry, i have nearly 146btc, and im more than willing to spend few to make your virtual world red and shiny.

* nullius reaches for his red paintbrush.

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March 15, 2018, 12:39:31 AM
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Also i will start buying every single stolen/hacked account with green trust to make your account look beautiful from the red side Smiley
Don't worry, i have nearly 146btc, and im more than willing to spend few to make your virtual world red and shiny.
If you have 1 mil + in btc, why are you scamming people for 35,000?

Seems like a waste of time...

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March 15, 2018, 12:39:40 AM
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Well, I'm clearly not up to the task, but if we completely disengage from reality à la Quicksy then there is no level of stupid we couldn't sink to.
Do not trust single word from this scam artist runing ponzi schemes and scamming around under his green trust rating.
Feel free to check his untrusted feedback and see who you are dealing with.
You were warned.

Wow, you are funny.  Do you also do stand-up?

https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332066
You have 24 hours to remove the negative rep, or i will spend more than 1bitcoin to ruin your account down Smiley

https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332407
Also i will start buying every single stolen/hacked account with green trust to make your account look beautiful from the red side Smiley
Don't worry, i have nearly 146btc, and im more than willing to spend few to make your virtual world red and shiny.

* nullius reaches for his red paintbrush.

Hahah... Everyone should neg this Shit Nugget .... Tongue
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March 15, 2018, 01:01:40 AM
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* nullius reaches for his red paintbrush.

Hahah... Everyone should neg this Shit Nugget .... :P

Pleased to oblige.

Thanks for having brought this to my attention.

Negative trust feedback from nullius to #992943 “Danos”

Reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0

Quote from: nullius
#992943 “Danos” openly offers money to buy negative trust feedback for purposes of revenge, and also threatens that he will buy “stolen/hacked” accounts for the purpose of undermining the trust system:

Threat to suchmoon:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332066
“You have 24 hours to remove the negative rep, or i will spend more than 1bitcoin to ruin your account down :)”

Offer of “bounty” against actmyname:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332543
“Here is bounty:First one who make this clown red trust get paid 5k Ripple.”

Threat to owlcatz:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180315002952/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126248.0#msg32332407
“Also i will start buying every single stolen/hacked account with green trust to make your account look beautiful from the red side :)
Don't worry, i have nearly 146btc, and im more than willing to spend few to make your virtual world red and shiny.”

This is outright *criminal* behaviour.  DO NOT TRUST THIS CRIMINAL.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0

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