TIME TO END MANIPULATION

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These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

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[pooya87]

what does ending manipulation have to do anything with creating a crypto focused ad network?

the fact that someone bans bitcoin or bitcoin related stuff should not even matter to anyone as long as they understand that centralized entities have no effect on decentralized bitcoin.
and as for manipulation it will happen as long as people pay attention to the nonsense and also as long as the exchanges are risky places so that people don't stay on them, effectively making them small with thin order books. that helps a mini whale to dump and cause panic.

[mk4]

The ban is actually a good thing in my opinion. So much shitty ICOs and phishing advertisements. The prices just goes nuts just because people panic about every bad news they see, even though the news is actually somewhat irrelevant. It's the people's mindsets that should actually be changed.

[whoisyourking]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

The population of people that involve in bitcoin or crypto currency still remain, but the promotion and the number of users who are entering in crypto world are decreasing because of the banned, we should accept the fact that google has a huge part in promoting crypto. this is huge down fall.

[dillpicklechips]

...and as for manipulation it will happen as long as people pay attention to the nonsense and also as long as the exchanges are risky places so that people don't stay on them, effectively making them small with thin order books. that helps a mini whale to dump and cause panic.

This is the problem with some of the people who are quiet easily swayed by FUDs but, on the other hand, it open up a new opportunity for those to ride the train they missed out last year.

[Kakmakr]

People should just shift their advertising to crypto currency forums like Bitcointalk.org and other social platforms, where Crypto currencies are welcomed. They should also protest against this decision. A blanket ban on Crypto & ICO advertising is totally bullshit.

You only ban something, if you cannot manage it. If the SEC regulated ICOs and you could differentiate between the good and the bad ICOs, then this would not have been banned.  

[Ondongeric18]

This move is making the digital currency world obviously in danger. As of this posting the value of BTC is below 8000$. I think they are making the line thinner for this type of currency. If they are manipulating as said, could it be that they are also trying to implement their own digital currency later should BTC lost against it? Well if this is the case will just wait and see.

[gantez]

People should just shift their advertising to crypto currency forums like Bitcointalk.org and other social platforms, where Crypto currencies are welcomed.

You only ban something, if you cannot manage it. If the SEC regulated ICOs and you could differentiate between the good and the bad ICOs.  

You have made a very valid and important point. Bitcointalk.org is a very supportive site for bitcoin and cryptocurrency. People should look into this direction and forget google for now, I tell you google will be the one to come around just like China has been trying to do.

[UAE Seasider]

Creating a futures contract for Bitcoin was probably the worst thing that could have happened to the crypto space. I would humbly suggest the majority of the manipulation stems from this and the fact people can bet on and then act in ways to make their predictions come true. The MSM has given a platform to push the price in one direction or another depending on good news or bad. So unless everyone turns off the news, doesn't read newspaper or internet articles we are stuck with it.

[not-a-bot]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

The idea, you are looking for is pretty good. I'm in And yes you should have servers over the world for it, to eliminate Google & FB effect. It should be decentralised  and be supported servers' owners like they do it in TOR. I suppose it could be a kind of complicated Ethereum smart contract for everyone who wish to join in. Every server owner or  website owner placing a code instead of Google Ad, uploading his wallet ID to a smart contract, and that's it.He starts to get crypto. Everyone who wants to place an advertisement should also upload his wallet to smart contract and than get access to placing ad in the network. The smart contract will automatically check adverts for restrictions, ballance, local settings etc. That is a great idea leaves no chance to Google and others. They  will probably join later, but after accepting our conditions! Don't forget me as Co-founder when you start to create it :-)

[Loveboard]

Did u even read the ad ban info ? They're trying to weed out the scamming ads that steal people's money.

They're trying to make it so that only legit crypto companies get picked as ads.

[AfterTheFork]

what does ending manipulation have to do anything with creating a crypto focused ad network?

the fact that someone bans bitcoin or bitcoin related stuff should not even matter to anyone as long as they understand that centralized entities have no effect on decentralized bitcoin.
and as for manipulation it will happen as long as people pay attention to the nonsense and also as long as the exchanges are risky places so that people don't stay on them, effectively making them small with thin order books. that helps a mini whale to dump and cause panic.

True but again if there is no awareness campaigns then how will we attract more investors to crypro, or do we assume that crypto doesn't need anymore fresh investors?

[simaislam]

The fact that someone bans bitcoin or bitcoin related stuff should not even matter to anyone as long as they understand that centralized entities have no effect on decentralized bitcoin and as for manipulation it will happen as long as people pay attention to the nonsense and also as long as the exchanges are risky places so that people don't stay on them, effectively making them small with thin order books. that helps a mini whale to dump and cause panic.

[malikusama]

Don’t feed the whales by selling your bitcoins at low prices, hold them for a long time is the only solution to reduce the manipulation effect in the market.
Bans can’t increase the effect of manipulation until the community is strong.

[not-a-bot]

Did u even read the ad ban info ? They're trying to weed out the scamming ads that steal people's money.

They're trying to make it so that only legit crypto companies get picked as ads.

That is a manipulation, TS was talking about. Don't you understand that Google and others now trying to be a decision making Center for Decentralised blockchain.
They already made this to Internet, and some good web projects like Jullian Assanges' Wikileaks could freely get and send information only through TOR network. Now they want to Centralize and to manipulate crypto market.
That's what we should understand and to create something alternative.

[TradeCrypto]

Brother i can understand your scenario its not about googles ban or any other platform Ban its about whales they are simply dumping for their gain . Even Fact is google and Facebook advertisement ban good for Crypto world .

[maydna]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

I don't have any idea about this because as far as I know, google is trying to conquer internet with their power and I think they can do this because they have a good source and they have infrastructure too. but I don't think that google can make the cryptocurrency stop because if we talk about cryptocurrency, it is about all people in every country and cryptocurrency have the power and if google cannot accept cryptocurrency then I think google will get off from the internet.

[frowsiter]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

I think the internet we use is sufficient enough to sustain the ecosystem of the decentralised ecosystem itself. The crypto currencies are actually running over the blockchain which is decentralised and thus adding another layer to it makes no sense to me and it wont help really. Internet is just medium via which the thing are transmitted from one point to another.

some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

There are already big platforms which are serving this industry the only thing people go for using the Google is they are wide spread and they are really really old stuff. They have earned big trust and that is what making them work so finely and I believe nothing else can compete it. So the only thing we can do is either do it on these platform or do it the traditional ways.

[paulmaritz]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

I couldn't agree more. My position on the matter is stated here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3126191.0

They are hoping that we are going to acccept it without a fight. They are pretty quick going to learn that they have very little authority left over us. They've gone too far.

[9jaflick]

These bans are having a real bad effect on the crypto ecosystem. We should act and do something.

Someone start a project on creating decentralized net or something. Also, some ad services that are crypto friendly and stuff.

We need hardware for infrastructure to beat Google for crypto's sake. Anyone got an idea?

The idea, you are looking for is pretty good. I'm in And yes you should have servers over the world for it, to eliminate Google & FB effect. It should be decentralised  and be supported servers' owners like they do it in TOR. I suppose it could be a kind of complicated Ethereum smart contract for everyone who wish to join in. Every server owner or  website owner placing a code instead of Google Ad, uploading his wallet ID to a smart contract, and that's it.He starts to get crypto. Everyone who wants to place an advertisement should also upload his wallet to smart contract and than get access to placing ad in the network. The smart contract will automatically check adverts for restrictions, ballance, local settings etc. That is a great idea leaves no chance to Google and others. They  will probably join later, but after accepting our conditions! Don't forget me as Co-founder when you start to create it :-)

hmmm, nice idea, but developing this service is not as easy as you think, it requires a lot of efforts and also it requires wide spread (ads) how do you do this when Google and Facebook has already ban ads? twitter is next in line