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December 07, 2013, 02:42:30 AM
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Need to move these threads to the scam section once discovered, lol Read so many of these hoping to invest to find they are scams.. sigh

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December 07, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
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I hope the lawyers are filing charges against itech pro and fabrizio, "sam", alessia and alberto. Let liar fabrizio and alessia claim their innocence. Even if they were scammed which they weren't to believe their lies is just mental retardation as chat transcripts are saved.

Itech pro needs to be sued for the damages, if scumbag fabrizio moved all the assests then you go after his personal assests as he purposely scammed people.

If this goes to any court of law he will be found guilty with all the incriminating evidence.
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December 09, 2013, 09:38:04 PM
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http://www.esecurityplanet.com/network-security/alleged-bitcoin-scammers-arrested-in-china.html

This will be Labcoin very shortly, someone please e-mail this to the correct scum.

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December 10, 2013, 01:38:53 AM
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Labcoin owes alot of people even me but hey there are numerous others who have
Lost a tremedous some due to the fraudulent  act of this shadowy operation..

I wish you well
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December 10, 2013, 01:54:44 AM
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Is anyone planning to deduct the labcoin loss from their taxes? With bitcoin so high that could amount to a significant deduction.
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December 10, 2013, 09:59:45 PM
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Is anyone planning to deduct the labcoin loss from their taxes? With bitcoin so high that could amount to a significant deduction.

How will you do this? How will you explain the tax agency that your investment in an unregulated security isnt a private pleasure? What proofs will you give? I think thats not really possible. And thats the problem there is with bitcoins.
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December 10, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
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That is true, I looked into it and it would be a big hassle. It is possible but probably not worth it.
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December 10, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
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Is anyone planning to deduct the labcoin loss from their taxes? With bitcoin so high that could amount to a significant deduction.

How will you do this? How will you explain the tax agency that your investment in an unregulated security isnt a private pleasure? What proofs will you give? I think thats not really possible. And thats the problem there is with bitcoins.

Claim you bought into BTC at the price $1100 and had to sell out at $650?
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December 11, 2013, 09:26:05 AM
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I think the time has come to start placing bounties on scammers heads ala the wild west. For a nice enough contract it would motivate bounty hunters to collect....

Setup a site on Tor and add scumbags with a price on their head.

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December 11, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
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I think the time has come to start placing bounties on scammers heads ala the wild west. For a nice enough contract it would motivate bounty hunters to collect....

Setup a site on Tor and add scumbags with a price on their head.

Greaaat...nothing like upping the ante for law enforcement from fraud and theft to conspiracy to commit murder. Leave the violence to the mafia. In my opinion, we're likely to see a lot more prosecution in 2014 for cryptocurrency related fraud, theft and related schemes. I'd be happy to see Labcoin near the top of the list.

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December 11, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
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Is anyone planning to deduct the labcoin loss from their taxes? With bitcoin so high that could amount to a significant deduction.

How will you do this? How will you explain the tax agency that your investment in an unregulated security isnt a private pleasure? What proofs will you give? I think thats not really possible. And thats the problem there is with bitcoins.

Claim you bought into BTC at the price $1100 and had to sell out at $650?

You think they will lower your tax because you claim something? They will happily will you let pay taxes when you claim you earned something but claiming your tax has to be lowered because you invested in a scam company? I dont see that happening.
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December 11, 2013, 07:36:22 PM
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Is anyone planning to deduct the labcoin loss from their taxes? With bitcoin so high that could amount to a significant deduction.

How will you do this? How will you explain the tax agency that your investment in an unregulated security isnt a private pleasure? What proofs will you give? I think thats not really possible. And thats the problem there is with bitcoins.

Claim you bought into BTC at the price $1100 and had to sell out at $650?

You think they will lower your tax because you claim something? They will happily will you let pay taxes when you claim you earned something but claiming your tax has to be lowered because you invested in a scam company? I dont see that happening.

that's usually applicable in most countries. losses are just as real as gains. there may be limits and other rules so consult a real tax professional.

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December 16, 2013, 02:24:04 PM
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updates?
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December 17, 2013, 12:25:04 AM
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No updates.

"Sam" is enjoying our millions of dollars in some Italian villa, partying with Berlusconi.
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December 17, 2013, 05:45:39 AM
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He's probably catching HIV from an orgy of prostitutes right now.

There you go, you guys funded his STD fueled demise. Everything even now?

Either you own the bitcoins(private keys) or you don't. However with moneroj, nobody knows what you own.
Secure. Private. Untraceable.
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December 17, 2013, 01:41:50 PM
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updates?

The case is moving forward, but I can't say any more about that on a open forum. The lawyer is working on the complaint, the next update will be when it's time for the people who has joined the complaint to submit their information to the lawyer.

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December 17, 2013, 02:08:43 PM
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updates?

The case is moving forward, but I can't say any more about that on a open forum. The lawyer is working on the complaint, the next update will be when it's time for the people who has joined the complaint to submit their information to the lawyer.

Hi virtualspace,

will you PM people who joined complaint and give us list of what Lawyer requires from us?

will he need proof of shares bought at BTC.TC or is information from cryptostocks enough? 
Will be needing csv files of trades etc..? 
I have csv files that I downloaded from BTC.TC, but if anyone who hasn't, are they still available from BTC.TC?
Is burnside of BTC.TC assisting lawyer or is lawyer contacting him? 
Is cryptostocks also assisting?

Is there anything else we should be preparing before we get contacted and have to submit info to lawyer?

Answer what you can in public forum otherwise could you send everyone PM (email) relevant information to prepare?

Thanks,
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December 17, 2013, 05:22:20 PM
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updates?

The case is moving forward, but I can't say any more about that on a open forum. The lawyer is working on the complaint, the next update will be when it's time for the people who has joined the complaint to submit their information to the lawyer.

Hi virtualspace,

will you PM people who joined complaint and give us list of what Lawyer requires from us?

will he need proof of shares bought at BTC.TC or is information from cryptostocks enough?  
Will be needing csv files of trades etc..?  
I have csv files that I downloaded from BTC.TC, but if anyone who hasn't, are they still available from BTC.TC?
Is burnside of BTC.TC assisting lawyer or is lawyer contacting him?  
Is cryptostocks also assisting?

Is there anything else we should be preparing before we get contacted and have to submit info to lawyer?

Answer what you can in public forum otherwise could you send everyone PM (email) relevant information to prepare?

Thanks,
merv77

I think it's wiser to get proof of share ownership from the last stock market: CryptoStocks.

In the following thread, I asked Kumala if such info would be available even after delisting LC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354511.0)

All information will be held, we keep all data in the database, nothing gets deleted, even if we delist the stock, the share holder structure will remain documented and can be supplied if and when required.


So knowing who (CryptoStocks accounts) owns what is not an issue.

I think the best way to proceed, IF any BTC funds are salvaged from this mess, would be to distribute these as dividends on CryptoStocks.

My 2 cents.

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December 18, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
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Hi virtualspace,

will you PM people who joined complaint and give us list of what Lawyer requires from us?

will he need proof of shares bought at BTC.TC or is information from cryptostocks enough?  
Will be needing csv files of trades etc..?  
I have csv files that I downloaded from BTC.TC, but if anyone who hasn't, are they still available from BTC.TC?
Is burnside of BTC.TC assisting lawyer or is lawyer contacting him?  
Is cryptostocks also assisting?

Is there anything else we should be preparing before we get contacted and have to submit info to lawyer?

Answer what you can in public forum otherwise could you send everyone PM (email) relevant information to prepare?

Thanks,
merv77

I will send a email to the lawyer and ask him if he has any information about what is needed for the complaint, but he is still working on the part of the complaint that focuses on getting the police interested in pursuing the case, and starting the investigation in to this fraud.

There is a lot of information to go through and I expect this to take some time to do, after that he can focus on how possible salvaged funds would be distributed and how to calculate the amount that everyone would get.

I also have the csv files that I downloaded from BTC.TC, but I know that not every one have them. Burnside said that he would help with the complaint and I'm sure he can get the information from his data storage if needed. I sent Burnside a email Dec 9 and asked how the information he said he would provide is coming along, I have not yet got any reply to my question. We have contacted him again and are waiting for his reply.

We are also looking looking into the possibility to compel him to release the information via order from the Gov't where he resides, as this was his first answer to me about releasing any information about Labcoin, in a email I sent him Oct 23.

Cryptostocks admin has also agreed to help with the complaint and he also has all information regarding Labcoin on his servers.

I can't think of any thing that you could do to prepare for the complaint, other than be patient and wait for us to get the complaint ready.

I will PM everyone that has joined the complaint with the information that the lawyer needs and how to contact him when the time comes.

TheSwede75 has failed to contact me or any other member from LCSH, I am personally starting to believe that he has some part of this fraud, and if it comes to a vote, I vote for him to be a suspect accomplice in this fraud, and would be presented as that in the complaint against Labcoin.

I have not followed TheSwedes75 actions and if or how he has replyed to his part of the Labcoin fraud, so I could be wrong but I find it interesting that he can not find the time to write some messages about his actions regarding Labcoin.

I'm also starting to believe that his name is not Daniel Larsson as presented on the btct.co/security/LABCOIN page, so if any of you have some information about TheSwede75 or like to do some research on him pleas PM me.

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Good work E.Sam on the Cryptostocks thread

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December 18, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
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I know with Havelock, those who had shares there, they left them on the portfolio so a simple screenshot should suffice as evidence.

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