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JWU90
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October 24, 2013, 09:55:12 PM |
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seems like it will be paid, it is already in LC's CS wallet. I think it might be the highest dividend yet, but still no way to verify hashrate
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SebastianJu
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October 24, 2013, 10:05:15 PM |
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Im not so sure...
Of course you are not sure, because you still havent bothered to read the regulations, have you? that would mean that every security has to get a licencse from every country because from every country a buyer could come. Buyers dont just "come". The key is were you are targeting the sales. Those markets are the ones where you have to be registered. For online sales, Ive posted what is considered targeting by US and HK governments. IN short, if you dont actively try to block investors from those countries, you are considered targeting them. If a security is only traded at a german stock exchange then a us-citizen could easily buy shares at this german stock exchange. Nonsense. The stock exchange knows your identity and nationality and will prevent you from buying securities that are not registered in your country. They must do that to comply with their license. Note that Im only talking about "unsophisticated" investors here. You and me. You are allowed to sell unregistered securities to the rich and famous. And to the pro's. You can buy the shares that are offered at an exchange if you are allowed to buy at this exchange by your bank. I never heard that, if you are allowed for one exchange, you cannot buy any share offered there. Maybe its because the bank you work with is the identity owning the shares. So that you arent exposed as a foreigner. If thats the case then a bitcoin bank could circumvent these restrictions too. Otherwise, lets say Austria is making a law that Google has to apply to their rules if an austrian owns a google share then Google has to follow everything Austria wants to? For example a certain amount of money that the security has to held liquid for each share in total? So you think google has to follow this? Sorry, but that doesnt make sense to me. It would make sense if google would try to offer their shares in an austrian stock exchange, if there is one. Thats not convincing for me yet. |
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MikeyVeez
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October 24, 2013, 10:06:30 PM |
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seems like it will be paid, it is already in LC's CS wallet. I think it might be the highest dividend yet, but still no way to verify hashrate
You can verify by doing maths with current difficulty which im not capable of doing. Ytter is fairly good at it maybe he can calculate it. |
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MikeyVeez
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October 24, 2013, 10:18:20 PM |
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Paid I think the current dividend past 24hrs puts as near 8TH? Can someone mathematically inclined run numbers
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UnconfirmedTransaction
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October 24, 2013, 10:22:11 PM |
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Last two dividend payments were 16.75 & 16.10 = 32.85.
This is ~ 10.95/day, because Tuesday was skipped. This may not be more hashrate, it could just be spreading 3 days' dividend payments over 2.
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MikeyVeez
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October 24, 2013, 10:25:38 PM |
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Last two dividend payments were 16.75 & 16.10 = 32.85.
This is ~ 10.95/day, because Tuesday was skipped. This may not be more hashrate, it could just be spreading 3 days' dividend payments over 2.
No they were down for about a day if you look at euligius, or maybe just eligius went down which would make sense with the 3 day thing. |
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Bitcycle
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October 24, 2013, 10:26:52 PM |
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Just check the guest account Sam gave us as he promised and you can see the rate.
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MikeyVeez
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October 24, 2013, 10:27:54 PM |
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Just check the guest account Sam gave us as he promised and you can see the rate.
Yes Sam Thanks that guest account is great. |
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pedrog
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October 24, 2013, 10:29:17 PM |
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Just check the guest account Sam gave us as he promised and you can see the rate.
Haha, good point. |
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October 24, 2013, 10:34:29 PM |
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You can buy the shares that are offered at an exchange if you are allowed to buy at this exchange by your bank. You are using a bank as broker/dealer. The bank is a sophisticated investor and can buy whatever security or finanical lottery ticket it wants. However, it can not sell you unregistered securities unless you are a sophisticated investor. I never heard that, if you are allowed for one exchange, you cannot buy any share offered there. Maybe its because the bank you work with is the identity owning the shares. So that you arent exposed as a foreigner. If thats the case then a bitcoin bank could circumvent these restrictions too.
I imagine a bank could theoretically register its own security and act as a pass through. But thats not circumventing the law, its implementing it. And im not even sure they are allowed to open their investors indirectly to the risk of unregistered securities. Otherwise, lets say Austria is making a law that Google has to apply to their rules if an austrian owns a google share then Google has to follow everything Austria wants to? No. An Austrian owning a share of google doesnt mean google is soliciting investments on the Austrian capital market. It would make sense if google would try to offer their shares in an austrian stock exchange, if there is one. Exactly. And selling securities over the internet without verifying the identity and nationality of the investors, is put on the same footing for obvious reasons. |
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AtlasONo
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October 24, 2013, 11:40:38 PM |
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Divs paid
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October 25, 2013, 02:14:03 AM |
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Sam,
When are you going to open up trading on Cryptostocks? Secondly, are we still on track for 50TH and 500TH accordingly?
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dhenson
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October 25, 2013, 06:19:43 AM |
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I'm definitely liking the daily divs. Do we know what the hash rate is up to now?
edit... guess not, just read back a page. Looking forward to the guest account.
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BitCsByBit
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October 25, 2013, 06:33:26 AM |
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Cheap shares?
More hash power coming soon!
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October 25, 2013, 07:14:21 AM |
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I'm definitely liking the daily divs. Do we know what the hash rate is up to now?
edit... guess not, just read back a page. Looking forward to the guest account.
I calcluated from last ghash transaction that hashrate was 7TH/s at ghash.io and eligius has been around 0.6TH/s lately. |
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Ytterbium
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October 25, 2013, 09:01:06 AM |
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Buyers dont just "come". The key is were you are targeting the sales. Those markets are the ones where you have to be registered. For online sales, Ive posted what is considered targeting by US and HK governments. IN short, if you dont actively try to block investors from those countries, you are considered targeting them.
None of that has anything to do with whether or not bitcoin virtual shares are legally considered securities under Hong Kong law. Simply that if you do sell financial services online, and don't lock out HK residents, you may be targeted for regulatory scrutiny. Not that it's illegal. Apparently you don't understand the distinction between "illegal" and "may be targeted for regulatory scrutiny" |
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October 25, 2013, 11:32:49 AM |
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October 25, 2013, 12:17:45 PM |
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They're not hookers, this is normal marketing practice for most products in China. By the way I'm in China at this moment and will be in shenzhen from Monday 28th to Thursday 31st. If anyone has any info on Fabrizio please pm me the details because you know what will happen in this thread.... 'delete'... |
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pedrog
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October 25, 2013, 12:32:14 PM |
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They're not hookers, this is normal marketing practice for most products in China. By the way I'm in China at this moment and will be in shenzhen from Monday 28th to Thursday 31st.
If anyone has any info on Fabrizio please pm me the details because you know what will happen in this thread.... 'delete'...
Why not taking your time to show us pics of your mining hardware instead of deleting our posts?
We do prefer to setup an open-space and show our hardware when it will be ready for public presentation. It would be nice if you were able to visit the site, if/when available... |
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