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October 17, 2013, 09:54:08 PM
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Edit:   DobZombie is now working on fixing the issue. I hope he will update this thread once his registration is finalized.





This thread is to inform the public that DobZombie has made false and fraudulent statements about the donations he is trying to collect.

DobZombie has been in several threads begging for items for his "museum" thebitcoinmuseum.com  You can check his post history (please note he has been known to remove his own posts).

This "museum" does not seem to be registered anywhere as a non-profit or a for profit entity. Why does this matter? He is claiming the donations that you send to him are not owned by him personally but by the museum.


Hey Goat. Stick a dick in your ear.

Nothing for the Museum is part of my 'collection'. I don't own any of those pieces that are donated. It all belongs to the Museum.

If the museum is not a person or a company nothing can belong to it.


Also from his website "© 2013 BitcoinNerd. All Rights Reserved. 'Walter' is a registered trademark. "    

I have checked and 'Walter' does not seem to be a registered trademark.



Now I am not the police and some of you might be able to check this out in better detail than myself. If anyone can find that any of my information is incorrect I will update the OP and if needed change the title and lock the thread.

I am not against any of you donating stuff to Rob (and I think his idea is a pretty good one if he would only do it correctly) but please be aware if you try to claim the donation on your taxes the IRS (or whatever in your country) might not be very understanding.

Thanks.








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October 18, 2013, 12:33:09 AM
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You are such a jerk.  You don't like somebody so you start a scam thread?

I've been working so hard on this Museum and you come along a fuck it up over a grudge?

Just because I don't have the money to register the Museum as an Entity doesn't make me a fraud.

Thanks a lot.

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You are such a jerk.  You don't like somebody so you start a scam thread?

I've been working so hard on this Museum and you come along a fuck it up over a grudge?

Just because I don't have the money to register the Museum as an Entity doesn't make me a fraud.

Thanks a lot.

So you admit you personally own all of the donations? If not who does?

Also why do you claim you have a registered traded mark if you know you do not?

And I've never deleted my own posts. EVER!

I say Walter is a registered trademark so nobody steals his image.  IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU?

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Wow Goat. lol

Nothing better to do?  Tongue

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October 18, 2013, 12:54:08 AM
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@ Goat,

Perhaps you should address these concerns on the Litecoin forum concerning "The Litecoin Foundation":


https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,997.msg39610.html#msg39610


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So what is the current status of this "Litecoin Foundation"? Is it incorporated somewhere as a non-profit org? If so, where is the paperwork for us to examine?

Legally a foundation is a non-profit entity so you can't start a for-profit business and call it a foundation (at least not in any country where the rule of law applies). If this "foundation" is actually a for-profit business then it is 100% a scam designed to confuse people into lining someone's pockets in the mistaken belief that they are helping out some sort of charity dedicated to promoting and enhancing Litecoin.

If that is the case this "foundation" is actually hurting LTC and this business should not only be banned from promoting anything on these forums but should be actively denounced by the LTC community for what it is.

I bring this up as there is no real information here on the so-called "Litecoin Foundation" yet there is another thread where they are looking to sell physical Litecoin coins. Where is this money (received from the sale of the coins) going and what is it being spent on?

As well as others in that thread. Its been over 2 months and you (The Litecoin Foundation) have not addressed these concerns.

Thanks in advance for addressing their concerns.

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@ Goat,

Perhaps you should address these concerns on the Litecoin forum concerning "The Litecoin Foundation":


https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,997.msg39610.html#msg39610


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So what is the current status of this "Litecoin Foundation"? Is it incorporated somewhere as a non-profit org? If so, where is the paperwork for us to examine?

Legally a foundation is a non-profit entity so you can't start a for-profit business and call it a foundation (at least not in any country where the rule of law applies). If this "foundation" is actually a for-profit business then it is 100% a scam designed to confuse people into lining someone's pockets in the mistaken belief that they are helping out some sort of charity dedicated to promoting and enhancing Litecoin.

If that is the case this "foundation" is actually hurting LTC and this business should not only be banned from promoting anything on these forums but should be actively denounced by the LTC community for what it is.

I bring this up as there is no real information here on the so-called "Litecoin Foundation" yet there is another thread where they are looking to sell physical Litecoin coins. Where is this money (received from the sale of the coins) going and what is it being spent on?

As well as others in that thread. Its been over 2 months and you (The Litecoin Foundation) have not addressed these concerns.

Thanks in advance for addressing their concerns.


Off topic. Make your own thread and quit trolling.



I have posted it in the thread I linked.

Trolling, well that's a very broad term. Someone is trolling when they are addressing a legitimate concern as you are with this thread. So in essence you are trolling as well. Let's keep the standards of the playing field level and fair here as we joust okay? Thanks

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October 18, 2013, 01:47:56 AM
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Thanks smoothie, I appreciate the backup.

Everyone here knows I'm an open book, it's just a shame that when somebody gets bored they have nothing better to do.

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Can you please answer the question about the ownership of the donations?

Thanks

I have stated MANY MANY times that any item donated to the museum, is not owned by me. The Museum owns said donations and will NEVER EVER BE SOLD OR GIVEN AWAY. In the event of my death my (soon to be) wife has been tasked to find a new curator for the museum. Said new curator can only take ownership if they are willing to state that said items cannot be sold.

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the museum owns the items, not the curator

does the curator of the Lourve own the items in that museum??

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Perhaps you should address these concerns on the Litecoin forum concerning "The Litecoin Foundation":

Touché!

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the museum owns the items, not the curator

does the curator of the Lourve own the items in that museum??

The Lourve is in fact a real registered museum and it can "own" things. OP's collection is not registered anywhere and can not own anything. He has admitted as much.

You can get a tax write off for giving to the Louve, you try that with OP's thing and you will go to jail for fraud.



took your time doing your Google research, did you?

you are contradicting yourself so much it isn't funny, you keep calling DobZombie the OP when clearing you are the one who started this trolling thread. you are also stuck on the role of the curator, you are right a museum owns the items and not the curator, so how about you read what you wrote and apply to this situation.

just because you feel hard done by DobZombie for telling you off for your slurring comments you have decided to make it your mission to destroy him. he is an open book, does not hide any information, never deletes his own comments, and does pay for a lot of the items in the museum (I should know as I have paid for some myself) and does not keep these for his own collection, he donates them to the museum himself.

how about you answer these questions yourself in regards to your own "Litecoin Foundation", and do you claim any BTC you earn through your investments on your own tax? it is an income and that is what tax is all about....

and I'm not off topic here as I am responding to things that you, yourself, have posted or responded to

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Can you please answer the question about the ownership of the donations?

Thanks

I have stated MANY MANY times that any item donated to the museum, is not owned by me. The Museum owns said donations and will NEVER EVER BE SOLD OR GIVEN AWAY. In the event of my death my (soon to be) wife has been tasked to find a new curator for the museum. Said new curator can only take ownership if they are willing to state that said items cannot be sold.

So the curator owns the donated items. Are you currently the curator, if not can you please tell us who is?


Take ownership of thebitcoinmuseum.com, you clown. Stop twisting my words.

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Thanks smoothie, I appreciate the backup.

Everyone here knows I'm an open book, it's just a shame that when somebody gets bored they have nothing better to do.

He was not backing you up. He did not support you in anyway at all. In fact he linked this to what he thinks is fraud. That is not really helping you out.

I'm going to be the better man and move your off topic questions to the thread found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313210.msg3359646#msg3359646

There was no reason to go off topic here Smoothie. You could have made your own thread. I will not respond to anything off topic in this thread from now on.

Thank you for following the rules of the forum.



Being a better man is not something you are good it.

And now you are abusing privileges to further your own ends.

Shame on you.  Shame shame shame

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Thanks smoothie, I appreciate the backup.

Everyone here knows I'm an open book, it's just a shame that when somebody gets bored they have nothing better to do.

He was not backing you up. He did not support you in anyway at all. In fact he linked this to what he thinks is fraud. That is not really helping you out.

I'm going to be the better man and move your off topic questions to the thread found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313210.msg3359646#msg3359646

There was no reason to go off topic here Smoothie. You could have made your own thread. I will not respond to anything off topic in this thread from now on.

Thank you for following the rules of the forum.



I will speak for myself Goat. Thanks.

Indeed I was backing him up by taking the standard you are holding him to and holding you to it on the grounds of community member concerns regarding "The Litecoin Foundation"  that are now 2+ months old.

Double standard in my view.

Come now, as if you follow all the rules of the forum? Okay let's not rabbit trail once again we might bring up your Pirate Ponzi Pass-Through from a year + ago. oops... Cheesy

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October 18, 2013, 02:34:30 AM
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the museum owns the items, not the curator

does the curator of the Lourve own the items in that museum??

The Lourve is in fact a real registered museum and it can "own" things. OP's collection is not registered anywhere and can not own anything. He has admitted as much.

You can get a tax write off for giving to the Louve, you try that with OP's thing and you will go to jail for fraud.



took your time doing your Google research, did you?

you are contradicting yourself so much it isn't funny, you keep calling DobZombie the OP when clearing you are the one who started this trolling thread. you are also stuck on the role of the curator, you are right a museum owns the items and not the curator, so how about you read what you wrote and apply to this situation.

just because you feel hard done by DobZombie for telling you off for your slurring comments you have decided to make it your mission to destroy him. he is an open book, does not hide any information, never deletes his own comments, and does pay for a lot of the items in the museum (I should know as I have paid for some myself) and does not keep these for his own collection, he donates them to the museum himself.

how about you answer these questions yourself in regards to your own "Litecoin Foundation", and do you claim any BTC you earn through your investments on your own tax? it is an income and that is what tax is all about....

and I'm not off topic here as I am responding to things that you, yourself, have posted or responded to

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oops...someone has been exposed and gone very quiet....my guess is now back-pedalling and trying to change what is being said

(was Goat involved with Pirateat40 ponzi scheme last year....shame)

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oops...someone has been exposed and gone very quiet....my guess is now back-pedalling and trying to change what is being said

(was Goat involved with Pirateat40 ponzi scheme last year....shame)

Attacking me does not help your friend here. Just cuz I lost 39,000 plus BTC does not mean what Dob did is correct. Personally attacks are not a defense, it makes me think that you agree with me and have nothing left to say.

I thought you weren't going to address off-topic comments?


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Thanks smoothie, I appreciate the backup.

Everyone here knows I'm an open book, it's just a shame that when somebody gets bored they have nothing better to do.

He was not backing you up. He did not support you in anyway at all. In fact he linked this to what he thinks is fraud. That is not really helping you out.

I'm going to be the better man and move your off topic questions to the thread found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313210.msg3359646#msg3359646

There was no reason to go off topic here Smoothie. You could have made your own thread. I will not respond to anything off topic in this thread from now on.

Thank you for following the rules of the forum.



I will speak for myself Goat. Thanks.

Indeed I was backing him up by taking the standard you are holding him to and holding you to it on the grounds of community member concerns regarding "The Litecoin Foundation"  that are now 2+ months old.

Double standard in my view.

Come now, as if you follow all the rules of the forum? Okay let's not rabbit trail once again we might bring up your Pirate Ponzi Pass-Through from a year + ago. oops... Cheesy

Yes I know you think The Litecoin Foundation is a fraud and you have made that very clear. I responded in the other thread. Even lets say that some how I or the Foundation committed fraud does not mean that Dob is off the hook. It would mean we are both fraudsters. You are not defending him very well by trying to attack others.



Prove it.

Provide a link where I state that I think the Litecoin Foundation is a fraud.

Just because you say it is true, doesn't make it true.

I will speak for myself and say that I do not have enough information to claim The Litecoin Foundation is a fraud or scam. Hence my linking you to the community concerns without my opinion attached to it.

I wasn't defending him, I was showing you how a double standard works. In essence by holding you to the same standard it is backing him up on the grounds of your accusations and your rep still needing to be clarified surrounding those community concerns and NOT anything to do with my opinion of you or the Litecoin Foundation.

Meaning you making claims that his entity is a scam and things needs to be addressed and you not doing the same for those community concerns I linked you to makes you to be operating in a double standard.

Now back to my original intent: Are you going to address those concerns in that thread? It is more than just the first post you see in the thread. You have not posted any answers to those questions there for 2+ months.

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took your time doing your Google research, did you?


I see you are the "sister site" of the bitcoin museum so I understand where you are coming from. I'm assuming you are his wife (if not Dob himself).


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I see you are the "sister site" of the bitcoin museum so I understand where you are coming from. I'm assuming you are his wife (if not Dob himself).

You are correct that I am the OP of this thread. I did make that mistake not that it really means anything in context.

If you want to post about the LTC foundation, please find the correct thread and do so. What you might think are my faults do not make Dobs actions correct.

Dob has both claimed that he does not own the items and that he will give them to a new owner when he dies. Do you not see how there is a slight problem here?

He also clams that he has a registered trademark when that is not the case. He has admitted to two counts of fraud.

Really all he needs to do is retract one of his statements, remove the lies fro his webpage and carry on with life. Once this is done there will not longer be an issue will there?

Trying to claim two contradictory claims at once will not ever end this. He needs to man up and make a correction.



so, because I'm a lowly female I can't think for myself and this must be my husband posting here....sexist pig!!

and the mistake means everything here as you are the one who started this whole thing and can't even get it right!!

DobZombie (not Dob) has claimed ownership of the museum and "Walter" not of any items - did you not read me saying that even items we have bought are not owned by us and have been donated to the museum - and I do understand that we can not give you a physical verification to this as you have never been in our house (and you'll never be welcome here anyway)...he has stated that the ownership of the MUSEUM will be passed to someone I deem fit enough to carry on the legacy and then when that person takes over you can give them 20 questions about their own mindset of the operation.

DobZombie has worked very hard on this museum, I have given up many nights of homecooked meals and time together for this site to be set up for YOU and the rest of the public to have a place where the history of the BTC is gathered into one place, and then YOU come along with your spiteful and defamatory comments trying to stuff it all up.

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