Ideas for new factoids?

[Little Mouse]

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Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.

[OgNasty]

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Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.

No.  If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did.  I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network, let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input. 

[PrimeNumber7]

Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

Regardless of one's opinion of LoyceV, I reviewed the thread in question, and I believe that his "guide" generally conforms with the intended use of the trust system. It is not perfect, and there are a few revisions I might suggest if I had editorial authority over the post (which I don't), but I think it should generally help forum members who are unfamiliar with the trust system.

[_BlackStar]

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Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.

I tend to think that LoyceV's guide thread deserves to be pinned at the top of board to get a lot of user attention instead of being promoted in the factoids slot. I don't know what LoyceV is quite happy with your suggestion or not, but I think that this guide thread is also useful for attracting the attention of users who have not understood how to properly set up their trust system.

What do you think?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.

If adding it in factoids is to controversial, I am not sure how but reading few response above I get the feeling, the mods can easily stick it on the Beginners & Help board. After all this is an informative topic and a lot of users are benefiting from it. At least they have a guide in front of them if not it's a complete guide.

[LoyceV]

I believe that his "guide" generally conforms with the intended use of the trust system.

So does theymos:

LoyceV's guide seems reasonable.

And the 16 translations (which I think is a record on Bitcointalk) indicate that many forum members seem to agree.

It is not perfect, and there are a few revisions I might suggest

By all means: feel free to post suggestions in my topic

I tend to think that LoyceV's guide thread deserves to be pinned at the top of board to get a lot of user attention instead of being promoted in the factoids slot.

I wouldn't mind, but I also don't think it matters much: pinned threads are easily overlooked. I just bump my thread once in a while.

I don't know what LoyceV is quite happy with your suggestion or not

I responded to Little Mouse on this subject in My Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system:

And have you ever asked theymos to put this thread in factoids?

Nope. Theymos knows it exists, if he wants it to be a factoid, he doesn't need me to ask him.

I've said it before, but I'd like to see custom Trust lists promoted more. Decentralize it further, instead of relying on DefaultTrust!

[JollyGood]

No.  If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did.

Does that mean under any and all circumstances, regardless, the only way for anybody to get a factoid slot is to pay 10 BTC?

Years ago that was something donors could do easily but today the value of a single Bitcoin has skyrocketed to $70,000 before dropping down to $20,000 or so where it is now. For any forum member to be donating 10 BTC to the forum seems out of the question now.

I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network

I am obviously missing something here. How does having very little real world interaction have anything to do with having an opinion on the trust network?

let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input.

You have fairly strong views on this matter.

All this is all new to me. I had no idea about any of this therefore cannot say whether your claims are accurate or not but it certainly would make interesting reading when I have spare time.

Can you elaborate on why you stated LoyceV has past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers or at least provide some links to threads detailing the allegations or incidents?

[Crypt0S0ul]

No. If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did. I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network, let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input.  

I thought you were a Troll. From where did you see LoyceV wanted to promote his opinions via a factoid slot? If so, Would you mind linking to his post or quoting his post? I know you cannot because I don't think he wants it. Little Mouse was the guy who asked for it. But, Look like Little Mouse kicked on your balls by saying this, and you are here to dump some of your bullshit opinions. If you disagree with his guide/opinion, please post on his thread and point out what you do not believe and what is wrong. theymos believe his guide is reasonable. Why do you suggest LoyceV Donate 10 BTC and get a Donator Tag? He does not earn money by scamming people and stealing people's money. He does not make money from Ponzi scheme Scams. So, there is no point in donating 10 BTC to promote a guide on factoids. You donated 10 BTC when BTC was like $10, maybe? Or maybe when it was even lower?

Don't Compare yourself with LoyceV.
Don't expect a reply from him too. He is thick-skinned.

[LoyceV]

All this is all new to me. I had no idea about any of this therefore cannot say whether your claims are accurate or not but it certainly would make interesting reading when I have spare time.

The guy on my ignore list loves going off-topic to smear my reputation. He's been doing that for years now, which all started after I didn't support him in his little feud with Vod and got worse after I made his tacky behaviour public. Usually I ignore him, once in a while I post some facts which he never responds to. He could just post in my reputation thread, but instead does it in various topics, so once in a while I feel like I have to go off-topic too to prevent people like yourself from believing him.
I don't keep track of all the forum space I've wasted on this matter already, but here's more reading material.

Sorry for going off-topic.

Don't expect a reply from him too. He is thick-skinned.

I can respond to JollyGood though

[digaran]

While forum is not advertising and factoids are old and repetitive, it would be a good idea to include quotes from some of the brightest writers, philosophers and scientists, it doesn't necessarily need to be about bitcoin, they could teach people something about life. No need for political statements  though.😉

[OgNasty]

Can you elaborate on why you stated LoyceV has past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers or at least provide some links to threads detailing the allegations or incidents?

Sure.  LoyceV is a piece of shit who uses the trust network to try and punish people he doesn't agree with.  He spreads lies about what I do, twists the truth to make it seem like my good deeds are bad, and in spite of years worth of evidence that Vod was abusing the trust network and attempting to extort me, he still continued to include Vod in the DT network and probably does still to this day (I don't care enough to even check, but LoyceV wouldn't be a total piece of shit if he corrected this behavior, so I assume he hasn't).  

There is a thread with dozens of pages outlining some of Vod's bad deeds that were overlooked by LoyceV, suchmoon, and their little band of trust network abusers that have made a mockery of DT but rather than have you waste your time sifting through years of trolling, this post below outlines the type of behavior that some of our "trusted" DT members support.  Sort of makes sense why they all advertise for money laundering mixers that have to be shut down by the US Government and their signature campaign crew distrusts me for sounding the alarm even though I was 100% correct, they were 100% wrong, and now this forum no longer allows it's staff to engage in this advertising behavior.  We have a Default Trust network now that punishes people for warning about illegal behavior and rewards those who do nothing but troll the people who are doing real things on this forum.  I'm sure that's what satoshi envisioned for this place...  People like LoyceV are the reason why literally 99.9%  of the talent has fled these boards.  Want to give him a free factoid?  Fuck him.  Have him pay the cost for once instead of milking this forum while supporting extortionists and money laundering operations that have turned this place into a shell of it's former existence.

Vod's latest extortion attempt:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352637.0

[PowerGlove]

Sure.  LoyceV is a piece of shit who uses the trust network to try and punish people he doesn't agree with. [...]

If I were you, I'd cool it with posts like these. I can only guess at what you're trying to accomplish with them, but I'd be surprised if they're having the intended effect.

And since you raised the issue of "milking" the forum: have you ever apologized for the staggeringly bad judgment behind your decision to secretly profit from the forum's funds?

I don't think that OgNasty should've collected airdrops via forum BTC, but collecting and keeping airdrops was not prohibited by the agreement, and the forum has no agreement-wise claim on those coins.

[Knight Hider]

New factoid idea:
"Each 24 word seed covers all possible Bitcoin addresses. Think about what this means for a while, it's truly amazing."

--Knight Hider

[robelneo]

It is possible, but I'm not sure that it's worth the trouble... If a local community has several factoids and really wants it, I'll probably do it.

I vote that it should be added and it's much better if it's written in a local language, the factoids are submitted by the local community, so how about every local board create a thread of local factoids that they can submit to the admin to show on their board?

[DooMAD]

Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.

Still see them when I access the forums on my phone, though.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.

It is part of the "uBlock filters - Ads" default filter list.

If you want to turn them back on, then open your uBlock Origin settings, go to the "My Filters" tabs, and paste the following:

Code:

bitcointalk.org#@#:xpath(//span[contains(text(),"Advert")]/../..)
bitcointalk.org#@#span[class]:has-text(Advert):upward(1)
bitcointalk.org#@#.fpcontainer

Click on "Apply changes" and then refresh the page. They should be back again.

[SamReomo]

Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.

It is part of the "uBlock filters - Ads" default filter list.
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Click on "Apply changes" and then refresh the page. They should be back again.

I really didn't know that uBlock has such filters but I hope that DooMAD will see the factoids once again after following the steps that you mentioned in your post. But, what if someone completely disables uBlock on bitcointalk.org? I believe if someone disables uBlock on bitcointalk.org then he/she may see the factoids once again. I don't really use that extension myself but I believe that it could be disabled on a particular site.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Well yes, of course you can disable it entirely on specific sites if you like - you literally just click on the big power button icon in the extension on the site you want to disable it on. But uBlock Origin is far more than just an ad blocker, and there are many other things you can use it for which maybe you don't want to disable. For example, someone asked fairly recently about a way to hide the ignore button which they kept clicking on by mistake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461934.msg62641090#msg62641090

[SamReomo]

Well yes, of course you can disable it entirely on specific sites if you like - you literally just click on the big power button icon in the extension on the site you want to disable it on. But uBlock Origin is far more than just an ad blocker, and there are many other things you can use it for which maybe you don't want to disable. For example, someone asked fairly recently about a way to hide the ignore button which they kept clicking on by mistake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461934.msg62641090#msg62641090

Well, then it's way better to use the filter code that you provided in the post because sometimes we can utilize the uBlock in a better way like blocking certain elements that we don't want on a site or specifically on this forum. The ignore button hiding filter that you shared in that thread is awesome and helpful for many users. I truly appreciate your reply and the filters that you have provided! I must say that I learnt something valuable today!