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[Generalzod580]

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[iv4n]

You aren't unlucky, win percentage has been changed. Today I have used all of my WOF spins (285 spins) and received 5 golden tickets from it. I won some BTC, lottery and RP too. However, I'm happy to have 5 golden tickets for the new lambo round.

All in all, that's not a bad result. The received amount of satoshis/lottery tickets and reward points are lower than before but getting 5 golden tickets is quite a huge win in fact. I would already be happy with winning 1 golden ticket.

I would say it's a nice result as well! Those 5 golden tickets are not so easy to get! Prizes are lower, and it's why I am still waiting with my spins (currently at 215), I guess that things will change in the near future!

The winner of the lambo was a bitcointalk user, Kryptoverdienst. They weren't really active aside from a single post. He won with a somewhat small number of tickets.

Nice catch. He is really lucky. First, winning $20 from faucet, not many of us had such luck. And then winning Lambo with just 473 tickets.On the other hand hand, value of his tickets was 0.11825 BTC or almost $7500. Offcourse, it's question in what way he aquired tickets. But any way, comparing with how many tickets some whales had, it's just drop in the sea.

I am wondering what he is going to choose from the prize, lambo or cash?
I bet on cash I guess.   

I guess your bet have very low odds, something like 1.05 .

Kryptoverdienst is definitely a lucky guy! And of course, he will choose cash! I can just imagine how much is maintenance for that Lambo, but for sure it's not cheap to drive one! Congrats to the winner! Maybe some of us will be luckier in the next round!

[kalix090]

Kryptoverdienst is definitely a lucky guy! And of course, he will choose cash! I can just imagine how much is maintenance for that Lambo, but for sure it's not cheap to drive one! Congrats to the winner! Maybe some of us will be luckier in the next round!

well if you win 3.08 btc from nothing, just keep them for a couple of months inside the balance, with the earn 4.08% earning are 0.01015466 BTC monthly, then he have money to buy the lambo and financially maintain it. lol 

[dwyane36]

^^Rewards haven't changed in a minute and it should be taken a look again. I get that people do not claim for electronics that frequently I am sure, and it is rare and I am sure that it is the main reason why we have no changes.

However, it is still at "iphone 11" world whereas we are at 13 nowadays, it is coming up at least, samsung ones are old as well, we had better and newer phones in samsung too. It is not just phones, we have it on ALL electronics, even hardware wallet has ledger nano S instead of X, so that should be seen as something that should be changed. It is cool that you allowed us to have money there and I doubt I would EVER buy anything from there with my reward points, but it would be at least looking better for you guys.

Of course, freebitcoin can update and add new electronics for RP, but it is not necessary at the moment. I mean, it's unlikely that someone will exchange such a huge amount of reward points for electronics and hardware wallets because it's not profitable at all. For example, iPhone 11 pro max is equivalent to 3862376 RP (~$2,4k).

[decodx]

Does that mean it's no longer profitable to buy WoF spins with RPs?
According to what is written here, even if you play free rolls for a full 24 hours, it is impossible to get a return on investment.

[STT]

Its not impossible, thats taking it too far over what is more likely meant; an automatic profit wont occur in that scenario but you can still get lucky.    The 280 spins giving 5 golden tickets would be way above average luck Im pretty sure.    
I have spins saved up a bit, just wondering if we continue to adjust into month end or possibly resume the pattern to get 70k or better.    Its below my arbitrary target low for a brief correction & closing the day there so I presume we do a bit of a tumble for near term but its probably only over the ground we just recently covered anyway.

[TheQuin]

They introduced premium membership and said they're gonna let us play PS5 games, then changed their mind and let all people play even a lot more, then they saw they're paying a lot for PS5 games so decided to replace it with a cheap ass PS1.
Yes , I'm a gamer .

It's amazing how clueless about business some people are. You might remember recently we ran a deposit bonus that gave people 10 free WoF spins for making a deposit. The reason we did that was so that everyone could experience premium WoF spins and they might decide to buy FUN to become premium members. It worked very well and we sold a lot more during the time it was running. We stopped doing because too many people abused it but we came up with another way of letting non-premium members try before they buy.

As I have already pointed at least 3 times we have only put the EV of WoF back to where it was when it started. IIRC BTC was roughly $20k at the time.

So you're telling me that lowering the chance of winning big prizes in WOF just after a few days of adding WOF bonuses is a coincidence , ok I believe it.

No. I'm not telling you that. You are putting words in my mouth so that you can argue with them and totally ignore what I actually say. There is a far bigger picture that you are completely missing. These things are all interrelated. The increase in BTC price made RP bonus unsustainable. We took the opportunity to promote premium WoF via a new RP WoF bonus. WoF needed to be realigned back to its original EV at some point anyway but this just sped up the process a little. 

Theres any bounty reward to spot and report botters with proofs?

Like 30 or 50% of their balance maybe  

We don't need to have an official bounty program because so many of our users like to help us without any expectation of reward.

That is a straw man argument. Nobody is asking them to give away 3k points per spin. It is the drastic reduction in probability, how it affects premium users, and how it was introduced without notice that people have a problem with.

And yet nobody said thanks while we left the rewards static during the bull run from Dec 2020. Now we just put it back where it was it's 'a drastic reduction".

[nycaltpac]

I don't know what things were like in Dec 2020, as I only got the premium account about 6 months ago.

Prize values have always gone up and down in sync with BTC values as far as I can remember. That's fine and perfectly understandable of course. If a player previously would win 30 Sats, and then the price of BTC doubles next month, then the same player should then win 15 Sats next time around, that makes perfect sense to me.

But the thing that I find strange is the changing of the actual fundamentals, the odds for the prizes. If it's true that the actual odds have changed, then spinning is obviously not as much fun as before. As an example, a few days ago, I did about 120 spins, and every single result was the same prize, either the lowest sats, or the lowest lott or the lowest RP prize. I can't say that spinning the wheel is very exciting when every result was the same.

I have zero issues with prize values decreasing or increasing in proportion to the value of BTC, but if the odds and fundamentals have been changed, then that is the only thing that I find to be strange, because those wouldn't be the same odds that were in effect when I bought the extra spins via the premium membership.

[TheQuin]

I don't know what things were like in Dec 2020, as I only got the premium account about 6 months ago.

You would know if you paid any attention to my replies in this thread over the last couple of days. WoF paid exactly what it does now.

Prize values have always gone up and down in sync with BTC values as far as I can remember. That's fine and perfectly understandable of course. If a player previously would win 30 Sats, and then the price of BTC doubles
next month, then the same player should then win 15 Sats next time around, that makes perfect sense to me.

No. As I pointed out here:

When we first introduced WoF we left the payouts at 50/500/5000 for a long time while BTCUSD was increasing before we linked the rewards to price. The effect of these changes actually brings the expected value of WoF spins exactly back to where it started.

here:

~As I have already pointed out we actually have been paying out far higher than the original costs of WoF spins for many months and this adjustment only brings them back to where they started.~
That only deals with part of the issue. All WoF spins have been heavily overpaying for many months, not just the new RP Bonus WoF spins.

and yet gain in my very last post.

And yet nobody said thanks while we left the rewards static during the bull run from Dec 2020. Now we just put it back where it was it's 'a drastic reduction".

But the thing that I find strange is the changing of the actual fundamentals, the odds for the prizes. If it's true that the actual odds have changed, then spinning is obviously not as much fun as before. As an example, a few days ago, I did about 120 spins, and every single result was the same prize, either the lowest sats, or the lowest lott or the lowest RP prize. I can't say that spinning the wheel is very exciting when every result was the same.

I have zero issues with prize values decreasing or increasing in proportion to the value of BTC, but if the odds and fundamentals have been changed, then that is the only thing that I find to be strange, because those wouldn't be the same odds that were in effect when I bought the extra spins via the premium membership.

I explained that's purely a matter of opinion here:

3. Changes should involve reducing the winnings but not virtually removing them

That was the other option wetsuit and I discussed but we decided that a severe reduction in the value of all the prizes would be more unpopular than just making the bigger prizes harder to win. That's just an opinion that we formed, some will agree and some will not.

[nycaltpac]

I explained that's purely a matter of opinion here:

3. Changes should involve reducing the winnings but not virtually removing them

That was the other option wetsuit and I discussed but we decided that a severe reduction in the value of all the prizes would be more unpopular than just making the bigger prizes harder to win. That's just an opinion that we formed, some will agree and some will not.

I would have personally liked to have seen the other option chosen, and would have been very happy with it, but I understand that it's a matter of opinion as you pointed out.

[TheQuin]

I explained that's purely a matter of opinion here:

3. Changes should involve reducing the winnings but not virtually removing them

That was the other option wetsuit and I discussed but we decided that a severe reduction in the value of all the prizes would be more unpopular than just making the bigger prizes harder to win. That's just an opinion that we formed, some will agree and some will not.

I would have personally liked to have seen the other option chosen, and would have been very happy with it, but I understand that it's a matter of opinion as you pointed out.

From previous experience, if we had reduced all the payouts I would have expected thousands of complaints. I've only had a handful of people complaining about the odds changing. I think that indicates that wetsuit and I came to the correct decision.

[Lordshiva]

Since the bitcoin price has increased that much i think the minimum reward point conversion to bitcoin should also be reduced. I have currently 50000 Reward points and reaching 100000 Reward point may take another one year for me.

[TheQuin]

Since the bitcoin price has increased that much i think the minimum reward point conversion to bitcoin should also be reduced. I have currently 50000 Reward points and reaching 100000 Reward point may take another one year for me.

I think that you should gamble more to get to 100,000 quicker.

We give a kickback of 1 RP for every 500 Sats you wager. The ability to encash 100,000 RP for Bitcoin was always intended to be for gamblers and people who introduce a large number of referrals. The other RP bonuses are intended as a way that everyone else can convert their RP into Bitcoin.

[Generalzod580]

Is there a way to unlock fun tokens.

[TheQuin]

Is there a way to unlock fun tokens.

No. That would defeat them being locked.

[fbtcvip10]

I see different "pay table" for premium wof and email wof, is this true or one of them is not updated yet?
For example if you spin 987xxxxxx in the email wof you'll get 3100 satoshis but if you spin that number in the premium wof you'll get 31 satoshis.

[slaman29]

Since the bitcoin price has increased that much i think the minimum reward point conversion to bitcoin should also be reduced. I have currently 50000 Reward points and reaching 100000 Reward point may take another one year for me.

I think that you should gamble more to get to 100,000 quicker.

As said, RP's always been for gamblers. This is why you don't get them from referrals, this is why you don't get them in large amounts, and I would vote even to increase the RP min for encashed for new accounts OR for those who never deposit and wager.

Maybe even do it something like the bonus free satoshi. The more you wager, the lower your redemption threshold.

This will make it unpopular with freeloaders. But it's not like the site loses anything from them right?

[youbtc4267]

Few questions to play on freebitco.in
1. To use scripts or program :
===> a. to verify each bet when playing "multiple BTC"
===> b. to statistic the probability of open number
===> c. to change bet odd and coins in order to get best win chance
===> d. to stop or re-start betting game continuously
is allowed?
The "AutoBet" is too crude....

2. No play "Free" hourly, play "MULTIPLE BTC" only
===> a. multiple PCs with different accounts from single IP
===> b. different accounts from single IP but play at different time
is allowed?

Multiple accounts to play "Free" hourly from single IP is treated as thief.
To play "MULTIPLE BTC" only is considered as thief or not?

3. To do the following,
===> a. to use account A to play "MULTIPLE BTC" only,
===> b. to stop play account A when win or loss some coins, then change to account B to play "MULTIPLE BTC" only,
===> c. repeat above steps within accounts, all are play  "MULTIPLE BTC" only,
is allowed?


Thanks for answers from anyone.

[FatFork]

I see different "pay table" for premium wof and email wof, is this true or one of them is not updated yet?
For example if you spin 987xxxxxx in the email wof you'll get 3100 satoshis but if you spin that number in the premium wof you'll get 31 satoshis.

I don't think that's right, and there is probably a mistake in the description. From what I understand, the pay table for all WoF spins should be the same.

[Betwrong]

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Babygun was just pointing out that the WOF spins bonus is not profitable anymore in the long run. Because you will lose more RP than you will win RP or satoshis in the long run. While with the former RP bonus we were winning 100satoshis for each additional free roll above 12 in one day.

I didn't know it was, tbh.    I'm never expecting profits from my gambling activities. What I value is the amount of fun I can get, while losing nothing or not that much. To me spinning the wheel is very entertaining, and it's definitely worth spending 702 RP to have 1 additional spin every free roll.

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It doesn't matter if you could claim 25 times per day. It has changed and you will no longer "feel good", as what was in the past, is in the past.

That's not about me, mate, as I explained above.

I just placed my bet on the "$65,001 - $70,000" range, because firstly there are great odds on freebitco.in for this range:

That's a really good range to put your bet on. I am still waiting for last minute fluctuations though.
There are still 3 days left and the current market is really unpredictable. Bitcoin has crossed All Time High.
Ethereum is about to cross is ATH. Both the prediction betting will be really thrilling this time.
I will probably place my bets on the  last day  

Yeah, although the odds have dropped a bit, I still think it's the best range.