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[arwin100]

By the way, it catches my attention how there are still alledged users of Freebitcoin posting their alledged wins on that thread you just linked me to. Is there any chance we can identity those accounts are being managed by someone directly related with the administration of the casino, in order to shill people into continuing to use Freebitcoin and deposit money into it?

As they are newbies, we aren't likely to reach a sound conclusion. I see two possibilities here, either they are accounts created by the people who manage the casino now, so they can lure more people or they are just naive and genuine newbies that post here for the reward because they are unaware of what has been going on in this casino for like two years. If I had to bet I would bet for the former but we are not going to be able to prove it.

Hard to conclude that those newbies are new comers and just want to chase some rewards, because if they visit this thread for sure they can read those problems or issues raised against this casino.

Also base on the activities they have, it seems this is another attempt to lure people to gamble in their casino.

Anyways we may not have proof about the real situation, but what's more important out here we all know that this casino is scam, then many people still waiting if they honor those past statement they made and do refunds, but I believe there's less chance for this situation to happen.

[uneng]

Hard to conclude that those newbies are new comers and just want to chase some rewards, because if they visit this thread for sure they can read those problems or issues raised against this casino.

Those are fake users sharing fake claims, or they are random users who only created an account on this forum to make that single post, without concerning about reading the thread.

I actually think there are more chances that those claims are fake, because if they were legit, at least one or another user would come back later to complain about not receiving the payment from the platform, and it never happen. The behavioral pattern of such accounts is identical and typical of bots.

[16xypjnxlrew]

Those are fake users sharing fake claims, or they are random users who only created an account on this forum to make that single post, without concerning about reading the thread.

I actually think there are more chances that those claims are fake, because if they were legit, at least one or another user would come back later to complain about not receiving the payment from the platform, and it never happen. The behavioral pattern of such accounts is identical and typical of bots.

One of the newcomers posted a Screen showing a balance of 0.0055 BTC. I wonder why they still haven't tried to withdraw the funds or complained about the payment being delayed for an entire year

I just won $20 at FreeBitco.in!

My user id is 38259338.

My winning seeds: https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=458bd031bba2be96a13b4d2c485999ffed452b6587339d6a4aea4f9ea9003389&client_seed=hkjTG5CJ5Y9I8Rrc&server_seed_hash=affe235e8ab87214f6f2cbc514718ebe728c4d544dda855777b84318acdb3b2a&nonce=58500

https://imgur.com/a/MX1jozP

[Hispo]

Hard to conclude that those newbies are new comers and just want to chase some rewards, because if they visit this thread for sure they can read those problems or issues raised against this casino.

Those are fake users sharing fake claims, or they are random users who only created an account on this forum to make that single post, without concerning about reading the thread.

I actually think there are more chances that those claims are fake, because if they were legit, at least one or another user would come back later to complain about not receiving the payment from the platform, and it never happen. The behavioral pattern of such accounts is identical and typical of bots.

It does not necessarily need to be bots, Freebitcoin could be perfectly be paying a couple of people in order to try to white-wash their current situation and keep a façade of legitimacy through those alledged wins on the platform.
In the end of the day, it seems they have retracted their choice of going out of business and have chosen to perpetuate their scam as long as it is possible for them. And part of that plan is keeping as many gullible users as possible coming to their casino.

Our duty is obviously to continue to be vocal about what is going on and warn those who may not be aware of this ongoing scam.

[ranlo]

Has anyone verified the PF system on FBTC by the way? Asking as some sites (cryptoplay and luckybird come to mind) have/had fake systems where the rolls were either verified server-side or just not verified at all. I haven't tested FBTC's though.

i just checked and the rolls are verifiable, they don't fake that.

but the way they implemented the system is in a way that if they wanted to, they can try give users server seeds that can't hit the big prizes, because server seeds are rotated after every roll. (the client seed rn is rotated too if you refresh the page, which is a big no no in any PF system, maybe it's bugged?)
the only way you could make their system 100% fair, is if you change your client seed after they reveal the next roll hashed server seed, which let's be real, 99.99% of users on freebitco.in don't do that.



in a normal provably fair system, the server seed gets committed and is never changed unless the player asks for it to be , which makes me believe they made it this way specifically so they can rig it. and the thing is, you can't prove or disprove they did it.

@LoyceV did some math on the free roll wins that have been shared on the forum before, and the numbers didn't add up:

Math time!
118 rolls (and correcting my mistake from 2018):
1 number pays $200 for every 4 numbers that pay $20 (I'm ignoring all rolls other than the 2 highest winners).
Expected outcome: around 23.6 times $200, and 94.4 times $20.
Reality: 2 times $200, and 116 times $20.
What are the odds of this happening?
My statistical math is rusty so I'm taking shortcuts: let's say it took 59 rolls to hit $200.
Odds of hitting $20 at the first roll: 0.8
Odds of hitting $20 in the first 2 rolls: 0.8²=0.64
....
Odds of hitting $20 in the first 58 rolls: 0.8⁵⁸=0.00000239452. That's 0.000239% chance. Note that I ignored the other half of the counted rolls.
So, and correct me if my math is wrong: this doesn't have a 5% chance of happening, it's 20,000 times less! And this is exactly what I meant when I said the bad signs were there, but were massively ignored. The odds of this happening twice in a row are several orders of magnitude lower. Count the rest of the topic, and you'll see this pattern continues.

Thanks for that. This makes a lot of sense. I was still new when I started there long ago and kept running into very rare statistical abnormalities but didn't know nearly as much about this stuff as I do now. For example, at 2x my longest loss streaks there were 49x, 48x, 48x, 47x. The 49x has a 1 in 130 trillion chance on its own. I also had 32 loss streaks twice in one day (1 in 11 billion chance) only about 5k rolls apart, which I found interesting.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Thanks for that. This makes a lot of sense. I was still new when I started there long ago and kept running into very rare statistical abnormalities but didn't know nearly as much about this stuff as I do now. For example, at 2x my longest loss streaks there were 49x, 48x, 48x, 47x. The 49x has a 1 in 130 trillion chance on its own. I also had 32 loss streaks twice in one day (1 in 11 billion chance) only about 5k rolls apart, which I found interesting.

They duped a lot of people with the illusion of fairness, myself included. I felt that I was winning the mid tier prizes in their free rolls and the wheel of fortune at a rate that was consistent with probability so I gave them a pass for those subtle things I felt were off. One of those things was that I never rolled a number between 9994-10000 in the hourly free roll but I had a handful of times where I rolled 0-6. Both ranges should have the exact same probability, except that one has much higher prizes, and coincidentally there were never any free rolls landing in that range.

I called their token a scam plenty of times in their Telegram group, but without having strong enough evidence that the rolls were manipulated, I wasn’t confident enough to make that accusation against them. Had Claude and other AI tools been around earlier, so that less technically capable users could audit the mechanics of their system, then I think the scam would have unraveled sooner.
 

[maydna]

Those are fake users sharing fake claims, or they are random users who only created an account on this forum to make that single post, without concerning about reading the thread.

I actually think there are more chances that those claims are fake, because if they were legit, at least one or another user would come back later to complain about not receiving the payment from the platform, and it never happen. The behavioral pattern of such accounts is identical and typical of bots.

One of the newcomers posted a Screen showing a balance of 0.0055 BTC. I wonder why they still haven't tried to withdraw the funds or complained about the payment being delayed for an entire year

Perhaps they already complain but no respond from teams and how come they pay their members while they don't show up and tells everything about the situation?

Let say that is legit, but with the situation and conditions on the site, I doubt they will gets their money. They can pay people pretend they wins and withdraw their money smoothly but we know the real things happens. We should warns more people who comes here by telling the truth and suggest them not to deposit.

[Betwrong]

~Why is it never enough for them? I think he made tens of millions with FreeBitco.in before turning it into a scam. Unbelievable!

Greed, bro, nothing else even though they enjoy all the prosperity for 10 years or more, they want to make more and more money. They turn their own name bad without thinking about what they've got so far just because greed. We don't know the right reason why they did that with their rep and ends their business into scams.

There's no justification for this. No cancer or other illness, no nothing. YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. That's it. It's that simple. I hope we'll read soon in the news that something bad happened to the creators and owners of FreeBitco.in. It's not about the money they've stolen. They've stolen my trust in humanity.

[maydna]

~snip~

There's no justification for this. No cancer or other illness, no nothing. YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. That's it. It's that simple. I hope we'll read soon in the news that something bad happened to the creators and owners of FreeBitco.in. It's not about the money they've stolen. They've stolen my trust in humanity.

Not sure they will release news or announcement here or in the site. They don't tells anything here about the situation and keep silent so many people who get the scams pray for the worst thing to creators and owners. We can only hopes the authority catch them and punish them and refund the members money.

[arwin100]

~Why is it never enough for them? I think he made tens of millions with FreeBitco.in before turning it into a scam. Unbelievable!

Greed, bro, nothing else even though they enjoy all the prosperity for 10 years or more, they want to make more and more money. They turn their own name bad without thinking about what they've got so far just because greed. We don't know the right reason why they did that with their rep and ends their business into scams.

There's no justification for this. No cancer or other illness, no nothing. YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. That's it. It's that simple. I hope we'll read soon in the news that something bad happened to the creators and owners of FreeBitco.in. It's not about the money they've stolen. They've stolen my trust in humanity.

Understand that sentiments, but what happened here shows how greed works on those people. They like to gain more that's why they decide to scam people.

Freebitco.in didn't just stole peoples money, bit also they broke the trust of their long time player. I don't want to wish any harm to the management, since it won't fix anything.

What truly matters now is to recognize how they scam their people here, then try to held them accountable on the actions they have done on proper channels. Then make sure that they won't do the same scheme again. But the problem is no victims stepping up and sue them that's why I think they decide to continue and repeat the same scheme.

[Free Market Capitalist]

There's no justification for this. No cancer or other illness, no nothing. YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. That's it. It's that simple. I hope we'll read soon in the news that something bad happened to the creators and owners of FreeBitco.in. It's not about the money they've stolen. They've stolen my trust in humanity.

Well, you sure do lose faith in humanity easily. I can think of far worse reasons to lose faith in humanity.

In any case, one of the theories that was floated throughout the thread a while back is that wetsuit might have sold the site to other people—without announcing it or anything—under the table. That would make it easier to understand both his disappearance and TheQuin’s, as well as the debacle the site has gone through. You don’t go from being an early adopter who builds a successful business making millions to becoming a scammer in a short period of time. In that sense, the change of ownership of the site seems more plausible to me.

[pawanjain]

There's no justification for this. No cancer or other illness, no nothing. YOU SHOULD NOT STEAL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. That's it. It's that simple. I hope we'll read soon in the news that something bad happened to the creators and owners of FreeBitco.in. It's not about the money they've stolen. They've stolen my trust in humanity.

That's quite understandable but then while dealing with crypto, we should be aware of this that at any given point, any entity can scam us.
The only place our coins are safe are in our wallet and that too when we maintain high security, everywhere else, we're just risking our coins for better returns.
That said, freebitco.in had operated for a long period of time and had maintained their reputation and trust in us and that is the main reason why we all feel betrayed.
It's the close ones that betray us the more, the same got applied here too I guess.

[Lucius]

Well, you sure do lose faith in humanity easily. I can think of far worse reasons to lose faith in humanity.

In any case, one of the theories that was floated throughout the thread a while back is that wetsuit might have sold the site to other people—without announcing it or anything—under the table. That would make it easier to understand both his disappearance and TheQuin’s, as well as the debacle the site has gone through. You don’t go from being an early adopter who builds a successful business making millions to becoming a scammer in a short period of time. In that sense, the change of ownership of the site seems more plausible to me.

I've written about it several times in this thread, but the percentage of those who disagreed with it was at least 90% - today it may be slightly lower, but there are still more who believe that something happened to the owner than that anything else was at issue. After all, it was discovered who the owner is and where he is currently located, as well as that he has a history of scams.