Carts for Coins Update Thread(8.4.2011)

[mc_lovin]

1.5.1.1 the latest version off the site.  It's an 8.2MB RAR file that unpacks to 22.8MB.

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[logansryche]

No, i'm sorry it's not. it unpacks to 100mb(did it a few minutes ago).
I still think you wanted a cart for cheap and are pulling all of these things out of thin air to discredit me. I fulfilled the contract, you did not. Please pay me. I don't have time to sit here and argue every point I worked on your site.

[mc_lovin]

No, i'm sorry it's not. it unpacks to 100mb(did it a few minutes ago).
I still think you wanted a cart for cheap and are pulling all of these things out of thin air to discredit me. I fulfilled the contract, you did not. Please pay me. I don't have time to sit here and argue every point I worked on your site.

http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=download/download

^ that right there is the download link. top download is 1.5.1.1, it's an 8.2MB file that uncompresses to 22.8MB. 

How is your version 100MB?  Like, I could be wrong, you might have a special version, but right off the main page is 1.5.1.1...

[mc_lovin]

http://impossibledecals.com/video/up.avi

^ that's a freezcam of how long it takes to upload 22.8MB to bravenet.  I have unlimited bandwidth so anyone can download that (its <12MB).

in the installation instructions, it says "

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INSTALL
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1. Upload all the files and folders to your server from the "Upload" folder.
   This can be to anywhere of your choice.

So it's not like i'm not doing this right.  Upload those 22.8MB worth of files and then Follow the onscreen instructions.

[logansryche]

the version of open cart i got for your site with both modules came in to 150mb. How bravenet is displaying otherwise is beyond me. I've already apologised several times for the plugin not working(which isn't my fault), and taken .4 btc you sent me as prepayment. The bottom line is I spent 7 hours to get your site up and running and it is. The site has content, you can go to it, you can buy the items in canadian dollars.. the only thing it can not do is accept bitcoins(which again, is not my fault). In the real world, I would have charged you for all labor included, not just what I put into the site. Why? Because that's the way it works here, but I'm not charging you for all labor put into trying to find another plugin or trying to reqrite the plugin twice or trying to find another cart software that accepts bitcoins the way that one does. I charged you for all work done to the site for getting it up and running. It's not my fault you don't like the numbers, but facts are facts. I think you should honor it, pay me, and be done with it because after this.. i'm going back to bitcoin mining and saying effit to services like this because of people like you that don't like the numbers.


BTW: Your video didnt work.

[mc_lovin]

pulling all of these things out of thin air

lol.

so. 

this payment module?  unzipped it's 56k.  so which other module makes up the missing 100+MB.

[logansryche]

a web of trust plugin that was written for me by a friend that allows your site to be in good standing with visitors so they don't say your site is fake.

Anyone else care to take a stab at me while the wounds are still fresh?

[mc_lovin]

people like you that don't like the numbers.

I like numbers.  Accurate numbers.  At midnight we changed the password, and you said to let you know if we wanted anything changed.  Well, that's like 3 hours after you got the password in the first places, so in no possible manner could you have done 7 hours worth of work to the site.

BTW: Your video didnt work.

Install k-lite

[logansryche]

people like you that don't like the numbers.

I like numbers.  Accurate numbers.  At midnight we changed the password, and you said to let you know if we wanted anything changed.  Well, that's like 3 hours after you got the password in the first places, so in no possible manner could you have done 7 hours worth of work to the site.

BTW: Your video didnt work.

Install k-lite

Sorry, not going to download something to my computer I know nothing about. So then let me ask you: what do you want to do to solve this problem? It's obvious you have your points and I have mine and all it's doing is creating a compiling argument.

[logansryche]

I would like to get others opinions on this.. I know I did 7 hours of work into this site and have the sticky next to my pc i wrote all the hours down on.

[mc_lovin]

Well since at 12:30 i changed the passwords and whatnot and there was no actual work done past that point, i'd offer 0.15 btc to cover the difference.

edit: so just briefly, after you said "you got that all sorted out", which work was done.

[logansryche]

the hours i have on this sticky are as follows.
I'd upload an image but have no scanner.

10:25p-11:25p
11:25p-12:25p
12:25p-1:25a
1:25a-2:25a
2:25a-3:25a
3:25a-4:25a
4:25a-5:25a

so yes, this is 7 hours worth of work. My wife can agree with me(desktop's in the bedroom, kept asking for cuddles,etc..). That is what's written on the sticky note.

[senbonzakura]

there is no way to verify that.

I would suggest in future not pay per hour. There is no way to know how much hours it has taken and with experience it could have taken less hours/faster.

I can offer interest - free loan to mc_lovin. You can pay me back in 1 week.

[logansryche]

And here I thought building a contract would make me secure so stuff like this wouldn't happen -.-

[mc_lovin]

And here I thought building a contract would make me secure so stuff like this wouldn't happen -.-

Dude, I liked working with you, but if you worked on something all night you should tell the person.  What if you worked on it for 100 hours?  Would I have to pay for 100 hours?  7 hours seems a bit of a stretch, it took me 14 minutes to upload the software myself.  At the 3 hour mark, the software was all good to go.  If you spent a long time working on the plugin module, that should have been done before offering the service. 

[logansryche]

And here I thought building a contract would make me secure so stuff like this wouldn't happen -.-

Dude, I liked working with you, but if you worked on something all night you should tell the person.  What if you worked on it for 100 hours?  Would I have to pay for 100 hours?  7 hours seems a bit of a stretch, it took me 14 minutes to upload the software myself.  At the 3 hour mark, the software was all good to go.  If you spent a long time working on the plugin module, that should have been done before offering the service. 

No because no one forsaw mybitcoin.com going offline permantly, so yes.. i made an attempt to fix it. I put more then 100 hours in downtime to get that plugin to work and try different carts and plugins. Why? Because that's good business practice. Would I charge you for it? no because labor wasn't listed in the contract.

[mc_lovin]

The thing that I don't like, though, is bad numbers in a deal of numbers.

Opencart + modules = 150MB.  It's stretching the truth and saying the .4 was a gift (originally) that's what made me mad. 

[logansryche]

The thing that I don't like, though, is bad numbers in a deal of numbers.

Opencart + modules = 150MB.  It's stretching the truth and saying the .4 was a gift (originally) that's what made me mad. 

Yeah.. and we worked around that. I agreed that I would accept .4 btc as a down payment towards the overall bill, but because i put as much time and effort into it, the price is still going to cost 1.1064
The ammount of labor I put into trying to fix that plugin costed way more then that. Sorry you don't like it, but it is the truth and I have several people to back me up on it(none on the forum), including my wife.

[mc_lovin]

offer: i'll give you 0.3 btc.  this is just because you tried your best.  your internet connection taking hours isn't my fault.  

[logansryche]

No and it was stated in the contract that stuff like that I'm not responsible for. I should be fully compensated the 7 hours I put into it.