[SCAM] Is payonix.com a legitimate AISC H/w manufacturer in Australia?

[plasmoske]

We will provide stats through Eligius and post the link once we connect it. We are off for the night. Support will be online until 9pm AEST tonight.

Again more beating around the bush and delay tactics. Don't worry mate. I already expected that you won't have any stats tonight. Or ever.

[kano]

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We will provide stats through Eligius and post the link once we connect it. We are off for the night. Support will be online until 9pm AEST tonight.

We do not know that person. How can we defend ourselves to that? Impossible. All we can do is take it I guess.

As I already corrected above (before you replied), I meant Robert, the guy who own 100% of payonix, should get a phone and use that to take pictures and videos of the miner that's been mining for almost a week now.

[sushi]

For now, let's give Payonix a break!

We can bark all we want but that's not going to change anything.  If he was the scammer, he would be gone wrong time ago and came back with a new website, new phone number and new username.  This company is still using the same and staying here with the same username even people accused them of a possible scam.

When they are ready, they will release the info.  Like the store in USA, "No Shirt, No Service."  This company is going for "No Photo" policy for now, so let's respect that.  

This forum is not to bash new business or new members but to further everyone's well-being by sharing information!  So let's use our energy to something more positive!  (We could be making small profits by trading BTC's up/down)

[Andrew Thomas]

Thankyou Sushi.

We will connect to Eligius TONIGHT and post the results link from Eligius.

[kano]

For now, let's give Payonix a break!

We can bark all we want but that's not going to change anything.  If he was the scammer, he would be gone wrong time ago and came back with a new website, new phone number and new username.  This company is still using the same and staying here with the same username even people accused them of a possible scam.

When they are ready, they will release the info.  Like the store in USA, "No Shirt, No Service."  This company is going for "No Photo" policy for now, so let's respect that.  

This forum is not to bash new business or new members but to further everyone's well-being by sharing information!  So let's use our energy to something more positive!  (We could be making small profits by trading BTC's up/down)

Sorry this is complete rubbish.
They said they had hardware already and they said it's been mining for quite a while.
They also said they would demo it 3 times so far and failed each time.

It's not a "No Photo" policy.

Your account was created after they "launched" ...

[kano]

Thankyou Sushi.

We will connect to Eligius TONIGHT and post the results link from Eligius.

Thankyou for what?
That he said the exact opposite of what you have been saying ... 3 time so far ... to do a demo?

[Andrew Thomas]

He is coming for a demo, will take over the unit for 24 hours and post the results himself. Kano, we did offer you the same option.

We were thanking him for standing up for us. These forums are quite brutal at times.

We will update again once we have connected to Eligius and have a link to post for verification.

[Andrew Thomas]

Sushi, you may want to tell them what you do for a living and your ethnicity.

It is good to be cautious, we support that! Especially in an industry that is so underground. However, you are way off the mark with us and Sushi.

[kano]

He is coming for a demo, will take over the unit for 24 hours and post the results himself. Kano, we did offer you the same option.

We were thanking him for standing up for us. These forums are quite brutal at times.

We will update again once we have connected to Eligius and have a link to post for verification.

That's about 5 minutes effort.
http://eligius.st/~gateway/

You did say you all have been in bitcoin for a while, so you should be able to do that ...

[Andrew Thomas]

Wow! Ok that is officially it for us on this forum. We will not tolerate this kind of talk about us and going so far as to say we will end up in a "boot". Im sorry but you are wrong about us, who you think we are. We wish you all good luck and keep an eye out for our units. They deliver on December 9th 2013.

[kano]

Sushi, you may want to tell them what you do for a living and your ethnicity.

It is good to be cautious, we support that! Especially in an industry that is so underground. However, you are way off the mark with us and Sushi.

Bitcoin in not an underground industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_economy

It is far from that.
Please read up about bitcoin, it would seem you don't know much about it.
http://bitcoin.org/

[plasmoske]

No eligius stats delivered again. What a surprise. NOT!!!!

Trying to beat around the bush and pull off delay tactics.

 It's 100% scam.

Anyone who ordered, I would contact your bank, paypal, credit card provider or whatever to try do a chargeback.
Adam will try to stall stall stall and try to make it go past the chargeback date. Don't fall for that bullshit.

[kano]

This is not us. That person does NOT work for our company. If you receive contact from that person purporting to be a representative of our company, please contact us immediately. If you have questions please call us or come visit us.

Hang on, I completely missed this comment about anettlefold@gmail.com

What are you talking about here?

That email address is the SOA email address on the payonix.com domain.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163971

Contact e-mail - The e-mail address of the person responsible for administering the domain's zone file. Note that a "." is used instead of an "@" in the e-mail name.

Why would you use his email address on the payonix.com domain if

This is not us. That person does NOT work for our company.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

[plasmoske]

Sushi shill. Andrew Thomas. Adam Nettlefold and scammer.

No miner for Kano. lol.

Case closed.

[edgar]

[sushi]

Hey,

easy!!!  Sushi has nothing to do with any of the ASIC Miner Companies!!!!

I'm taking a risk of losing the airfair and time... 

[-ck]

To be fair, a lot of South East Asian cultures often talk about themselves in the 3rd person.

[sikman]

I shouldn't be wasting my time replying to this SCAM but for some reason this thread is very entertaining, time to break out the popcorn..

thanks to "plasmoske" and his brillant detective work and Kano as well, I'm calling this a SCAM, fark me trying to pass off a standard PC setup as an ASIC...... SHOW ME THE DEMO, God Dammit!!

So looking at the adcolt.com whois. shows that it's using POWWEB.COM as their host. Guess who else uses POWWEB.COM as their host? You got it. Payonix. What a coincidence!! Now how the hell did I find that out? Well the other day when he was doing maint, I saw it load up for one second also with the powweb ssl cert. Well it seems like now he's migrated servers from powweb to some other. I think vpscheap.net - and now has his own dedicated IP. Trying to cover his tracks I guess.

So who is Robert Nettlefold? Most likely his brother or father. Stole documents off them so he can register up his own business/domain. But there's also a chance it's a non existent person since he is a master of forgery.

Managed to find out where the real Andrew Thomas lives. And he's not Andrew Thomas by the way. He's Adam Nettlefold.

Adam Nettlefold (anettlefold@gmail.com)
20 Campelles Ave, Varsity Lakes, Queensland, Australia

Coincidence that the real anettlefold lives only 15mins from Bundall (their supposedly new office location)? I think not!

FAAAAAKE!

Please close thread as its all over for you.

Payonix = wolf in sheep's clothing

[edgar]

i was really hoping payonix was legit

These scammers depend on people suspending their disbelief.

feeding off their hopes

true parasites,

may fit right in with yifu / ngzangs data-harvesting gig

[sikman]

i was really hoping payonix was legit

These scammers depend on people suspending their disbelief.

feeding off their hopes

true parasites,

may fit right in with yifu / ngzangs data-harvesting gig

He is allot worse than Master Yifu, at least he actually had hardware and delivered, too bad he mined the shit out off them before shipping them, he just forgot to DUST them out from the long term mining, I mean Burn in test...