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Question: What is your sex?
Male - 417 (87.2%)
Female - 37 (7.7%)
Other - 24 (5%)
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October 07, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
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I don't thing transgeder people would speak of themself as neither male or female.

They might consider themselves to be both male and female, or change regularly (male by day, female by night etc etc).

Anyways, we can see from this poll that not enough women are using Bitcoin. A shoe-shop accepting payment in Bitcoin would help.

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October 07, 2012, 09:38:28 PM
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To be realistic, the few women in here is only a symptom of where bitcoin is operating.

There are still about 90% Geeks here. (Which I count myself to)

It would be interesting how many % of the people here are not working in some kind of IT-Field, or study something IT related.

I think it's still less than 25%.

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October 07, 2012, 09:43:39 PM
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To be realistic, the few women in here is only a symptom of where bitcoin is operating.

There are still about 90% Geeks here. (Which I count myself to)

It would be interesting how many % of the people here are not working in some kind of IT-Field, or study something IT related.

I think it's still less than 25%.
I think that's the main thing.  Bitcoin does well with two groups: technologists and libertarians.

Women are under-represented in both of these groups.  Figuring out why and what to do about it is probably beyond the scope of this forum.

Thus, I think we can expect the gender gap to shrink if-and-when bitcoin goes more mainstream.

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October 07, 2012, 09:47:45 PM
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About 1,7% of humans are born hermaphrodites, we have over 5%.
Why is bitcoin so interesting for this gender?

Nice made up number.

0.033% to 0.05%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality

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October 07, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
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wow...we have about as many "others" as women...i'm betting 90% of those have a Y chromosome...

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October 07, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
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To be realistic, the few women in here is only a symptom of where bitcoin is operating.

There are still about 90% Geeks here. (Which I count myself to)

It would be interesting how many % of the people here are not working in some kind of IT-Field, or study something IT related.

I think it's still less than 25%.
I think that's the main thing.  Bitcoin does well with two groups: technologists and libertarians.

Women are under-represented in both of these groups.  Figuring out why and what to do about it is probably beyond the scope of this forum.

Thus, I think we can expect the gender gap to shrink if-and-when bitcoin goes more mainstream.

Couldn’t it be as simple as surveying women about what they want and providing it? Maybe it is as simple as shoes or makeup or maybe it’s something we would never think of but can be easily provided.
What would happen if you surveyed random men about what they wanted?  Most men aren't technologists, libertarians, or bitcoiners.

In order to get useful results, you'd have to find the women who would be one of these save for one thing, and that would imply you already know what that thing is.

Still, worth considering.  Might be nice to see a study about women where the author hasn't already made up her mind to blame the men for a change.

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October 07, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
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The sex of 20 of the people in the poll is other. lol

Wait, bitcoin has only 1% more women than hermaphrodites?

About 1,7% of humans are born hermaphrodites, we have over 5%.
Why is bitcoin so interesting for this gender?

Other includes trans-gendered people, not just hermaphrodites.

"Other" also includes people who are just fucking with the poll.   Cool

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October 07, 2012, 10:16:43 PM
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The sex of 20 of the people in the poll is other. lol

Wait, bitcoin has only 1% more women than hermaphrodites?

About 1,7% of humans are born hermaphrodites, we have over 5%.
Why is bitcoin so interesting for this gender?

Other includes trans-gendered people, not just hermaphrodites.

"Other" also includes people who are just fucking with the poll.   Cool
and those messing with the poll are almost certainly guys...

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October 07, 2012, 11:15:54 PM
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I liked the shoe shop idea. Handbags, cosmetics, etc would interest me although I'm also into technology and borderline Libertarian. You should have a whole group of women on board since one company pays their contractors who are mostly women in bitcoin. Again, I think it's the trust factor. Most women want to feel secure. Non-centralized money does not make them feel secure. There is a vicious rumor going around that people in bitcoin use the service for illegal things and this scares many of them. I've seen them mention it on twitter and why they won't take their pay with bitcoin.

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October 07, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
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About 1,7% of humans are born hermaphrodites, we have over 5%.
Why is bitcoin so interesting for this gender?

Nice made up number.

0.033% to 0.05%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersexuality

From the wiki article you linked to:

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According to Fausto-Sterling's definition of intersex,[79] on the other hand, 1.7 percent of human births are intersex

Reading you own references helps.

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October 07, 2012, 11:41:21 PM
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I liked the shoe shop idea. Handbags, cosmetics, etc would interest me although I'm also into technology and borderline Libertarian. You should have a whole group of women on board since one company pays their contractors who are mostly women in bitcoin. Again, I think it's the trust factor. Most women want to feel secure. Non-centralized money does not make them feel secure. There is a vicious rumor going around that people in bitcoin use the service for illegal things and this scares many of them. I've seen them mention it on twitter and why they won't take their pay with bitcoin.

+++1   you could start SR women edition "high heels" put some sixpack guys for rent 

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October 08, 2012, 02:40:07 AM
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I liked the shoe shop idea. Handbags, cosmetics, etc would interest me although I'm also into technology and borderline Libertarian. You should have a whole group of women on board since one company pays their contractors who are mostly women in bitcoin. Again, I think it's the trust factor. Most women want to feel secure. Non-centralized money does not make them feel secure. There is a vicious rumor going around that people in bitcoin use the service for illegal things and this scares many of them. I've seen them mention it on twitter and why they won't take their pay with bitcoin.

+++1   you could start SR women edition "high heels" put some sixpack guys for rent 
I'm not sure if new retailers will attract new bitcoiners, unless those retailers can offer something that the traditional retailers ones can't, the way SR does.

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October 08, 2012, 10:29:09 AM
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Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:



Also relevant to this thread: Women and free market  Smiley

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October 08, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
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Oh, oh! I got one  Grin

http://www.kleiderkreisel.de/

Every community we could convince to use bitcoin will bring in lots of women, especially if it is one that has a large female user base like "kleiderkreisel.de" (yeah sorry, its a German example, but Im sure there is something like that in every country).

kleiderkreisel is a community where users (mainly women) can present and sell their very own textile creations or second hand articles.
It is pretty well known and popular among my peers (co eds) and I believe bitcoin would work well with it (I think they have an in-house web of trust system) because all advantages of bitcoin as a payment system apply.
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October 08, 2012, 12:21:43 PM
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Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:



Any more information about this study?

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October 08, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
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Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:



Any more information about this study?

When look at the outcome, I fear that's the kind of study where the result is already fixed and the questions are asked in the way to archive that goal.

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October 08, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
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Bitcoins for shoes,  Grin

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October 08, 2012, 04:50:21 PM
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I think the lack of women is only due to the predominance of early technology IT adopters which are generally heavily skewed towards being male. As bitcoin spreads in popularity women will naturally join.

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October 08, 2012, 10:42:44 PM
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Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:



Any more information about this study?

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/09/29/male-female-economists-differ/1583053/
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October 08, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
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Saw this study today, seems relevant to this thread:



Any more information about this study?

I'd like to know if the average age of female economists is lower than that of males. I suspect, given that there has been a gradual improvement in opening up fields of study to women over the decades, that this is so.
It might then be relevant to see if younger economists have different opinions to older ones - and whether this study took that into account.

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