How much to put bitcoin TO DA MOON (or the ISS or a satellite)?

[molecular]

Inspired by this guy trying to put up a bitcoin flag at the south pole (only BTC 0.46 left to donate for this, btw), I've been thinking about putting a Bitcoin Flag onto THE MOON!

How about it?

Can we put a rough number on the cost of such a challenge?

At what exchange rate would it be feasable?

How could this be organized (x-price style?)

What else could be part of the mission?

[tutkarz]

interesting idea but i'm afraid the cost could be too high.

[LiteCoinGuy]

i would prefer it to bring it into space. i guess moon is to costly  

but "even" in the space it would be the biggest promo ever  


take a look:

[letcore]

What else could be part of the mission?

Install a server and mining equipment.

Good to have a copy of the blockchain on the moon right?

[Remember remember the 5th of November]

All the Bitcoins in existence, pretty much.

[Alty]

over $100,000,000

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_it_cost_to_go_to_the_moon#slide2

[MakeBelieve]

Yeah, I think it would cost a little too much. Maybe, do what the other guy mentioned as a alternative. It will at least reduce the cost a little. But, judging on the amount of replies to this thread. I don't think many people will be interested.

[Philj]

perhaps a better and more cost effective idea would be to send and receive a bitcoin transaction on the ISS.

[Remember remember the 5th of November]

perhaps a better and more cost effective idea would be to send and receive a bitcoin transaction on the ISS.

That could work!

[Endgame]

over $100,000,000

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_it_cost_to_go_to_the_moon#slide2

That price is for sending a person. It's much cheaper if you send a robot with flag planting arm.

[alkaz]

Inspired by this guy trying to put up a bitcoin flag at the south pole (only BTC 0.46 left to donate for this, btw), I've been thinking about putting a Bitcoin Flag onto THE MOON!

How about it?

Can we put a rough number on the cost of such a challenge?

At what exchange rate would it be feasable?

How could this be organized (x-price style?)

What else could be part of the mission?

why stop on the moon? 
im thinking.. why dont we put it on mars surface 

[FeedbackLoop]

Or pay to piggy back on some mission to send an USB stick with a copy of the blockchain (like letcore said, I think a copy of the blockchain is more meaningful). Much cheaper.

[qwerty555]

Or pay to piggy back on some mission to send an USB stick with a copy of the blockchain (like letcore said, I think a copy of the blockchain is more meaningful). Much cheaper.

Here"s your options you may canvass. If they are going you only need to pay for a small part of the cost . Or you can ask Will Smith as Hancock whose already been there done that!  OR Men in Black, Superman etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_missions_to_the_Moon

anned missions
Country    Name    Proposed
launch date    Nature of proposed mission
(Private)    DSE-Alpha    2015    Mission to transport the first space tourists to fly around the Moon using Soyuz; proposed by Space Adventures (2005).[26][27]
 India       2020    Manned moon landing; proposed by ISRO (2009).[28]
 Japan       2020    Manned moon landing; proposed by JAXA (2006).[29]
 Europe    Aurora programme[30]    2024    Manned moon landing; proposed by ESA.[31]
 China    CLEP    2025+    Manned moon landing; proposed by CNSA.[32][33]
 Iran       2025    Manned moon landing; proposed by ISA (2010).[34]
 Russia       2025 and 2027–32    Manned moon landing; proposed by RFSA (2007).[35]
(Private)       2019    Manned moon landing and operation of lunar surface mineral extraction equipment proposed by Shackleton Energy Company (2012).[19]
(Private)       2020+    Manned moon landing proposed by Golden Spike Company (2012).[36]
(Private)    OpenLuna    2020+[citation needed]    

[beegatewood]

With that amount of money, you can pretty much hire some famous celebrity to advertise instead... and still cheaper by 100 times...

[Gabi]

Or pay to piggy back on some mission to send an USB stick with a copy of the blockchain (like letcore said, I think a copy of the blockchain is more meaningful). Much cheaper.

Yeah sure, a USB stick on a body without any sort of atmosphere or magnetic field. The radiations will fry that usb stick in a day or less.

[Buffer Overflow]

Let's build a mega laser and and fire an image of Bitcoin logo on the moon.

[FeedbackLoop]

Or pay to piggy back on some mission to send an USB stick with a copy of the blockchain (like letcore said, I think a copy of the blockchain is more meaningful). Much cheaper.

Yeah sure, a USB stick on a body without any sort of atmosphere or magnetic field. The radiations will fry that usb stick in a day or less.

Yeah... because I was planning on going there and retrieve that blockchain backup when mine dies.

It's just publicity.

[Wilikon]

Let's build a mega laser and and fire an image of Bitcoin logo on the moon.

Been there! Done that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKH-N3mh0w

[Wilikon]

How come no one is even mentioning Tony Stark's real life counterpart Elon Musk's SpaceX?

www.spacex.com

I am pretty sure they can give you a quote if you send them an email or twitter.

[jawnzer]

We should all donate for our very own bitcoin satelite!

I would donate for this.

I think moon is a little to over the top, but satellite would be more feasible.

[bbit]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Either way get it crowdfunded in bitcoins http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

[molecular]

We should all donate for our very own bitcoin satelite!

I would donate for this.

I think moon is a little to over the top, but satellite would be more feasible.

Hey man, I for one don't want "feasable".

If it's too expensive now, we can just wait.

How about collecting bitcoins into an escrow and as soon as exchange rate makes it possible, we'll do it?

Of course there needs to be a deadline when the coins will be given back should that point never come. Like 2020 or something.

[molecular]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Either way get it crowdfunded in bitcoins http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

How about we used the stash we collected (I described in previous post) as a bounty. Whoever puts a bitcoin flag onto the moon first will get the coins.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Either way get it crowdfunded in bitcoins http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

How about we used the stash we collected (I described in previous post) as a bounty. Whoever puts a bitcoin flag onto the moon first will get the coins.

And Dank can control the stash.

[cedivad]

How come no one is even mentioning Tony Stark's real life counterpart Elon Musk's SpaceX?

www.spacex.com

I am pretty sure they can give you a quote if you send them an email or twitter.

We should do this. It would be too funny.

[molecular]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Either way get it crowdfunded in bitcoins http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

How about we used the stash we collected (I described in previous post) as a bounty. Whoever puts a bitcoin flag onto the moon first will get the coins.

And Dank can control the stash.

Who?

We can just hide the private key on the dark side of the moon, uh, wait...

[SaltySpitoon]

Well, the U.S is the only country that has ever put a man on the moon. The fact that it was done over 40 years ago, and no other country has felt the need to also do so, leads me to believe that its either very costly, or very hard to do.

I think we would be better off with something like local advertising, rather than putting a flag on the moon where only aliens will see it. 

[molecular]

Well, the U.S is the only country that has ever put a man on the moon. The fact that it was done over 40 years ago, and no other country has felt the need to also do so, leads me to believe that its either very costly, or very hard to do.

I think we would be better off with something like local advertising, rather than putting a flag on the moon where only aliens will see it. 

a man is much harder than a flag. Life support and a return are unecessary.

http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/blog/moon-roundup-big-picture

I don't know exactly what the goal was/is of lunar x-prize, but if I remember, the plan was to shoot a bot to the moon, have it drive around and send a HD livestream back to earth.

I don't buy the "but we could use the money much better for xyz" story. Using that argument we'd probably still be in the stone age.

[SaltySpitoon]

Wouldn't you need to get a person there to plant the flag?

[Puppet]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Because small rockets cant escape earth's gravity, much less reach the moon. Escape velocity from earth is about mach 34. What small rocket did you have in mind?

That said, a micro/nano/pico satellite is feasible and economically doable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CubeSat

[Eri]

How about we build our own small rocket and shoot it to the moon to implant the flag?

Like we see with iphones and weather baloons.

Because small rockets cant escape earth's gravity, much less reach the moon. Escape velocity from earth is about mach 34. What small rocket did you have in mind?

That said, a micro/nano/pico satellite is feasible and economically doable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CubeSat

technically to get to the mun, you arnt escaping kerbins earths gravity, your just orbiting the planet and elongating your orbit to get within the muns gravioli field so you can orbit it then land.

[jason44]

perhaps a better and more cost effective idea would be to send and receive a bitcoin transaction on the ISS.

Haha I really like your idea.

[MakeBelieve]

If this was done. Imagine the publicity Bitcoin would receive.

[molecular]

thanks everyone for chipping in ideas. I love this thread.

Now, it seems THE MOON is such a big target that we can't even think about it seriously (yet), although I still think it might not be as expensive as some think and also that a skyrocketing bitcoin price could make it feasable pretty quickly, I'm warming up to the other ideas (I'm still thinking about setting up an escrow pool to start collecting bitcoins because, well 1.) collecting many coins now seems easier than when they're $20,000 a piece and 2.) it'll remove coins from the market for a time). Anywhichway: we will have enough time for this going forward.

I do like the other ideas, namely:

• 1.) put bitcoin onto ISS somehow
• 2.) put bitcoin onto a satellite or even make bitcoin satellite

1.) would probably easy as soon as we have someone going there in the boat... the type of network access they have there might be very restricted or not even suitable, though, so that'd have to be figured out. Also: how much sense does it make to take a blockchain (probably not much, syncing it is likely out of the question), just making a transaction would probably be good enough? What story could we use with the transaction?

2.) I've heard some college or even school projects putting mini-satellites into orbit, but what would really we want there? A full node would obviously be desireable, but is it possible (how about such big storage and type of hardware able to run in the conditions? How long do we want it to stay up there? How to sync the blockchain if we have one)

[molecular]

Another quick idea for the satellite: In case it has at least a wallet, we could have it generate a key once up there, then send donations to incentivize space dust collection research

EDIT: we could also just shoot a bunch of gold into orbit, but that's less cool, not "bitcoin" and the value can't be updated.

EDIT2: having lots of money "up there" would also create incetive to keep it in orbit until it can be collected

[uck]

How about we put 3 bitcoin miners on 3 geosynchronous satellites, where they can store a copy each of the block chain, and then if we ever lose all our computers on earth maybe 1 of the satellites will still function... keeping the blockchain going, and the network (albeit slow)

[uck]

or how about .... Bitcoin, the Official Currency of the XXXX Ol y m pi cs. 

or when Elon Musk builds his hyperloop, maybe it could only accept Bitcoin as payment.

[Shallow]

I don't think the entire bitcoin economy in it's current state could fund such a venture

[Puppet]

2.) I've heard some college or even school projects putting mini-satellites into orbit, but what would really we want there? A full node would obviously be desireable, but is it possible (how about such big storage and type of hardware able to run in the conditions? How long do we want it to stay up there? How to sync the blockchain if we have one)

You could put a raspberry Pi or beaglebone or something in it. It wouldnt survive the radiation very long, but then neither would the satellite anyway. Without motors and fuel, it will come down fairly fast again. IM not sure if anyone has done it so far, but have a look here:
http://www.zdnet.com/raspberry-pi-in-space-putting-the-linux-pc-into-orbit-7000000577/

Could it actually run a full node and keep it in sync? Im not sure we'd have the communication bandwidth for that, so I kinda doubt it.

[qwerty555]

If its maximum exposure that is the objective, Start them Young!

How about subsidised 1st class bitcoin Daipers with Large bitcoin logo on back and front ( and $ sign inside at the dirty end?)

[Marcopolo123]

hot-air balloons lol

[molecular]

hot-air balloons lol

haha, lol!

[brioche]

Well maybe one the astronauts could bring a flag along to the ISS. Might not even have to pay NASA, just be a publicity stunt eh?

[molecular]

Well maybe one the astronauts could bring a flag along to the ISS. Might not even have to pay NASA, just be a publicity stunt eh?

I like "sending bitcoin to/from the ISS" better than a flag in that case.

[bitkoof]

You could send a bitcoin into space like these lego men? Cost £250!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/lego-man-space-pictures-video-2672869

This one is pretty good too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/9039936/Lego-man-sent-to-space.html

[SemiMolten]

How about build a satellite for bitcoin transfers. Might reduce attacks.

[molecular]

Richard Branson might be able to help: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101220710

[TheButterZone]

Richard Branson might be able to help: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101220710

I wouldn't want any living or non-living thing put in orbit at this point except a space debris collector. So much shit in orbit that needs to be recycled or burned up. See: IMAX Space Junk or the anime Planetes.

[Kluge]

Ultimate Bitcoin-powered hotspot. I'd pay to be able to work on getting a decent satellite ISP accepting BTC going. The draw to Bitcoin would be insane, and the satellite(s) could hold copies of the blockchain for relatively quick distribution. Too bad there's no cheap/easy way to make it immediately accessible to everyone like a WiFi hotspot. How cool would it be if you could just plug a USB dongle in and access 4+ different satellite hotspots?