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Author Topic: [JCE]Fast & stable CN/v8/Heavy/Tube/XHV miner, CPU+GPU, Vega56 1800+ RX580 1200+  (Read 90784 times)
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April 12, 2018, 12:29:17 AM
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Hey guys i got i7-8700 water cooled. What performance should I expect and how should I run the bat file ? I quite dont understand how to manage in order to get FULL hashing performance , while I am not using the computer. Thanks in advance !!!
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April 12, 2018, 03:44:30 AM
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managed to get my VM setup with 16 threads (host has 40, dual E5-2680v2 10c/20t).

but when i started the bat file with the defaults, it only started 12 threads. i didnt see any setting in the bat file to make it limit to 12, even though the script sees all 16 threads of the processor.

is there a limit of only 12 threads per instance?

got ~560 H/s though. is that good? seems to be on par with a single mid range GPU?
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April 12, 2018, 05:45:19 AM
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Jce by default limits itself to 1 thread per 2M of cache (4M for cryptonight heavy). You can force more with parameter -t but it tends to flood the cache and lower performance. But not always, pentium4 and atom are better with all cores enabled, regardless of the cache. To be tested per cpu.

Good news the k10 bug is consistent, it will be easier to debug. Maybe try force another assembly with --archi pentium4 for example, to see if its an hardware oddity or asm big bug.
I've a k8 somewhere, will try on it. Remote debug would be complicated, i'd have to setup a whole dev environement. At last i'd buy a used k10 system, it wouldn't cost that much today.

Next release should have double-hash.
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April 12, 2018, 05:56:07 AM
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Good job Smiley Fixing the K8/K10 bug might be a door opener for your miner. To be realistic, xmrig and xmr-stak have such a strong position in the market and are highly optimized, so it would be difficult to displace them on normal systems. But the strong performance of your miner on non-AES systems could be a market niche, to get those hunderts and thousands of older systems into mining which atm are too weak for cryptonight  Cheesy
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April 12, 2018, 06:16:59 AM
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Jce is faster than them  Angry, even with aes, but the difference is tight, i admit. About 2%.
Both xmrig and stak use old code from Wolf0, which is unfair, even if they give credit. My code is completely new, not even in the same language (i use asm).

Sure the real gain is on non-aes and 32 bits. My own rig is made of five Core2 Xeons 2.666Ghz, 117h/s versus ~85 for other miners.
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April 12, 2018, 12:32:08 PM
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Yes! On 32-bit nonAES CPU 0.19 is faster than others. Thanks!
Now waiting double threads and new coins!
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April 12, 2018, 01:47:42 PM
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Same here PhenomII X6 1090T, rejected by the pool due to "low difficulty share"
Have you tried the 32-bit version, too? It's a bit strange. With the 64-bit version the results are rejected on AMD Athlon II X2 "Regor" as well as on AMD Phenom II X4 "Deneb". The 32-bit version instead works on "Regor" but doesn't even start on my "Deneb". Can you please try if your AMD Phenom II X6 "Thuban" works with the 32-bit version?
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April 12, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
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Jce by default limits itself to 1 thread per 2M of cache (4M for cryptonight heavy). You can force more with parameter -t but it tends to flood the cache and lower performance. But not always, pentium4 and atom are better with all cores enabled, regardless of the cache. To be tested per cpu.

Good news the k10 bug is consistent, it will be easier to debug. Maybe try force another assembly with --archi pentium4 for example, to see if its an hardware oddity or asm big bug.
I've a k8 somewhere, will try on it. Remote debug would be complicated, i'd have to setup a whole dev environement. At last i'd buy a used k10 system, it wouldn't cost that much today.

Next release should have double-hash.

ah, makes sense. the CPU's do have 25MB cache each. so it looks like 2x 12-thread VMs would be the ticket. my VM software (bhyve) limits me to 16 cores per vm anyway.

does the speed sound right for 12 threads at 2.8GHz? 560H/s
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April 12, 2018, 06:27:49 PM
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My ryzen 1600 (6 cores, 16M cache, 8 mining threads, 3.2GHz, direct hardware (no VM)) peaks at 507, your performance sounds consistent, but i don't know how negative is the use of a VM.

Good news : I've setup an antique Athlon64 on Windows 7 x64 and I can reproduce the K8-K10 bug. Fixing, should be done in a few hours.

It invalidates version 0.17 to 0.19, switch to 0.20 once possible.
Then i update the documentation and remove the zip from github.

Sorry men for the bug Sad
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April 12, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
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K8-K10 bug fixed

please update, unless you use AES or 32-bits, in such case JCE 0.19 and 0.20 are the exact same.
Documentation on first post now explains the attrib trick.
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April 12, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
Last edit: April 12, 2018, 10:43:18 PM by aGeoM
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Same here PhenomII X6 1090T, rejected by the pool due to "low difficulty share"
Have you tried the 32-bit version, too? It's a bit strange. With the 64-bit version the results are rejected on AMD Athlon II X2 "Regor" as well as on AMD Phenom II X4 "Deneb". The 32-bit version instead works on "Regor" but doesn't even start on my "Deneb". Can you please try if your AMD Phenom II X6 "Thuban" works with the 32-bit version?

32Bit it is fine, hashes about 110H/s with 5 threads.

K8-K10 bug fixed

please update, unless you use AES or 32-bits, in such case JCE 0.19 and 0.20 are the exact same.
Documentation on first post now explains the attrib trick.

Testing it now. Thanks.

Edit

http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9485636JCEX6.jpg

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April 12, 2018, 10:57:49 PM
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Good, and thanks for the screen Smiley
So that cpu has six cores and 3M of L2 + 6M of L3. Don't you have more perf with 6 threads ?
Or with my dual-thread feature, which is exactly made for that kind of cpu (no aes, lots of cores, low cache) ?
The config example in the zip would worth a look Wink
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April 12, 2018, 11:55:53 PM
Last edit: April 13, 2018, 01:04:58 AM by aGeoM
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Config 1:

Code:
"cpu_threads_conf" : 
[
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 0, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 1, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 2, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 3, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 4, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 5, "use_cache" : true },
]

Start 1

Code:
jce_cn_cpu_miner%BITS%.exe [b]--low[/b] -o %POOL%:%PORT% -u %WALLET% -p %PASSWORD% %SSL% %* -c config.txt --variation 3

http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8848686JCEX6-6T-LOW.jpg

Start 2

Code:
jce_cn_cpu_miner%BITS%.exe  -o %POOL%:%PORT% -u %WALLET% -p %PASSWORD% %SSL% %* -c config.txt --variation 3

http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2341731JCEX6-6T-HI.jpg

Config 2:

Code:
"cpu_threads_conf" : 
[
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 0, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 1, "use_cache" : true, "dual_mine_with": 0 },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 2, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 3, "use_cache" : true, "dual_mine_with": 2 },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 4, "use_cache" : true },
     { "cpu_architecture" : "phenomii", "affine_to_cpu" : 5, "use_cache" : true, "dual_mine_with": 4 },
]

Start 1

Code:
jce_cn_cpu_miner%BITS%.exe [b]--low[/b] -o %POOL%:%PORT% -u %WALLET% -p %PASSWORD% %SSL% %* -c config2.txt --variation 3

http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5357300JCEX6-6T-LOW-dual.jpg

EDIT

With a little OC to keep same CPU voltage (config1 and start1)

http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9095799JCEX6-6T-LOW-OC.jpg


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April 13, 2018, 05:39:38 AM
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Sorry i should have been more explicit : The idea was to set 6 threads on cpu 0-5 and make thread 5 (the last) dualmine with thread 4 (the one before). Period. And not use dualmine three times, which of course kill the perf.

But... Invalid hashes on dualmine on your k10... Yeah I made 0.20 so fast that I didn't even check the dualmine version of buggy k8-k10 asm, stupid. I'll go for another 0.21 that invalidate previous, remove all zip from github... Again.  Cry

Will release asap. If you want a new unlisted coin by the way, ask here  Wink
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April 13, 2018, 06:03:45 AM
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K8-K10 bug fixed

please update, unless you use AES or 32-bits, in such case JCE 0.19 and 0.20 are the exact same.
Documentation on first post now explains the attrib trick.
Yeeeees!  Shocked Great job!  Cool

In the matter of OS Windows Vista / Server 2008 is min system requirement, isn't it? Any chance to get the code running on Windows XP / Server 2003? I have some of the very old boxes here with these operating systems.
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April 13, 2018, 06:09:50 AM
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I document minimum to be Seven, but I got reports 2008 Server and Vista work too.
XP and 2003 don't support Huge Pages, so they are not viable mining os Sad
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April 13, 2018, 06:30:37 AM
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i tried this on xeon haswell i got 155 hash for cryptonight heavy. xmrstak got 165 hash
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April 13, 2018, 09:25:11 AM
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Was somebody already able to try it with a ryzen 5 2400G ?
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April 13, 2018, 10:28:42 AM
Last edit: April 13, 2018, 11:01:36 AM by UnclWish
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Why miner stops to connect?

12:30:50 | Pool sends a new Job.
12:31:43 | Pool sends a new Job.
12:32:32 | Pool sends a new Job.
12:33:05 | Pool sends a new Job.
12:33:12 | Nicehash session timeout, instant-reconnect.
12:33:12 | Connecting with SSL to mining pool cryptonightv7.eu.nicehash.com:33363 ...
12:33:12 | Connected to pool. Now logging in...
12:33:12 | Connection failed: Socket receive error: socket explicitly closed by the pool
12:33:12 | Connection interrupted, waiting 5s then retry.
12:33:17 | Connecting with SSL to mining pool cryptonightv7.eu.nicehash.com:33363 ...
12:33:18 | Connected to pool. Now logging in...
12:33:18 | Connection failed: Socket receive error: socket explicitly closed by the pool
12:33:18 | Connection interrupted, waiting 5s then retry.
12:33:22 | Connecting with SSL to mining pool cryptonightv7.eu.nicehash.com:33363 ...
12:33:23 | Connected to pool. Now logging in...
12:33:23 | Connection failed: Socket receive error: socket explicitly closed by the pool
12:33:23 | Connection interrupted, waiting 5s then retry.
12:33:28 | Connecting with SSL to mining pool cryptonightv7.eu.nicehash.com:33363 ...
12:34:44 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:34:44 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:34:44 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:34:44 | Total: 0.00 h/s
12:39:38 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:39:38 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:39:38 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:39:38 | Total: 0.00 h/s
12:44:31 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:44:31 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:44:31 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:44:31 | Total: 0.00 h/s
12:49:25 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:49:25 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:49:25 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:49:25 | Total: 0.00 h/s
12:54:18 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:54:18 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:54:18 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:54:18 | Total: 0.00 h/s
12:59:12 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
12:59:12 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
12:59:12 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
12:59:12 | Total: 0.00 h/s
13:04:05 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
13:04:05 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
13:04:05 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
13:04:05 | Total: 0.00 h/s
13:08:59 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
13:08:59 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
13:08:59 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
13:08:59 | Total: 0.00 h/s
13:13:53 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
13:13:53 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
13:13:53 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
13:13:53 | Total: 0.00 h/s
13:18:46 | Hashrate Thread 0: 0.00 h/s
13:18:46 | Hashrate Thread 1: 0.00 h/s
13:18:46 | Hashrate Thread 2: 0.00 h/s
13:18:46 | Total: 0.00 h/s
13:22:13 | Stop signal received, Quitting...

Closing and launching again somtime fix connection... sometime not...
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April 13, 2018, 12:30:50 PM
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My ryzen 1600 (6 cores, 16M cache, 8 mining threads, 3.2GHz, direct hardware (no VM)) peaks at 507, your performance sounds consistent, but i don't know how negative is the use of a VM.

Good news : I've setup an antique Athlon64 on Windows 7 x64 and I can reproduce the K8-K10 bug. Fixing, should be done in a few hours.

It invalidates version 0.17 to 0.19, switch to 0.20 once possible.
Then i update the documentation and remove the zip from github.

Sorry men for the bug Sad
What are your memory clock?

Ryzen likes memory at 2800+ and lowering the main timings (for 15-15-15-36 1T as example)
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