Abuse of the trust system by Vod

[AndrewWilliams]

Made a new thread, branched from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311527.0


Sod, I mean, Vod has sunken to new lows:

Posted in his sent feedback:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=104135



just_me -6: -1 / +0(0)   2013-11-08   0.00000000  
Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320104.msg3516069#msg3516069
"User has mental health problems and has lost touch with reality. Do not do business with this person!"




The thread was started by just_me to discuss Christianity.

Predictably enough Vod starts thread crapping calling Christianity a cult and insulting every Christian posting in it.

Apparently, being a Christian and discussing it is enough for him to call someone mentally ill and taint their reputation.

Since Vod has no shame, I implore everyone to give Vod negative feedback for continuously harassing Christians on this forum, until he removes his false feedbacks.




This is after he accused me of identity theft with no proof, since I offered loans in the lending section which he likes to bully on, giving anyone he dislikes neg feedback. He continues to troll me, saying I am in a cult because of my Christian beliefs.

Vod is in the default trust list (surprise!) through BadBear and TamatoCage.

Is this the type of behavior that people who run the forum support?


Looking for a resolution to this. I have already tried to resolve this with Vod to no avail. He refuses to discuss, and resorts to name calling.

[Kouye]

You're safe, Vod is trusted by 7 people or less.

Here are the users who appear most frequently on trust lists that have been edited at least once:

Code:

+-------+-------------------+------------+
| count | member            | in_default |
+-------+-------------------+------------+
|   519 | DefaultTrust      |          0 |
|    82 | John (John K.)    |          1 |
|    82 | theymos           |          1 |
|    30 | TradeFortress     |          0 |
|    23 | dooglus           |          0 |
|    22 | burnside          |          0 |
|    21 | CanaryInTheMine   |          1 |
|    21 | Gavin Andresen    |          0 |
|    20 | Tomatocage        |          1 |
|    19 | HostFat           |          1 |
|    18 | ThickAsThieves    |          0 |
|    17 | sublime5447       |          0 |
|    17 | BadBear           |          1 |
|    17 | BCB               |          0 |
|    16 | friedcat          |          0 |
|    16 | yxt               |          0 |
|    15 | Maged             |          1 |
|    15 | Chaang Noi (Goat) |          0 |
|    14 | escrow.ms         |          1 |
|    13 | casascius         |          0 |
|    13 | satoshi           |          0 |
|    13 | OgNasty           |          1 |
|    12 | Akka              |          0 |
|    12 | paci              |          0 |
|    12 | sirius            |          1 |
|    11 | Projects          |          0 |
|    11 | ziomik            |          0 |
|    11 | diego1000         |          0 |
|    10 | Ukyo              |          0 |
|    10 | Deprived          |          0 |
|    10 | phantastisch      |          0 |
|    10 | SebastianJu       |          0 |
|    10 | MPOE-PR           |          0 |
|     9 | Stemby            |          0 |
|     9 | Menig             |          0 |
|     9 | J.Socal           |          0 |
|     9 | Luke-Jr           |          0 |
|     9 | bertani           |          0 |
|     9 | DeaDTerra         |          0 |
|     9 | zefir             |          0 |
|     9 | qwk               |          0 |
|     9 | tysat             |          0 |
|     8 | TheButterZone     |          0 |
|     8 | Inaba             |          0 |
|     8 | MagicalTux        |          0 |
|     8 | Benson Samuel     |          0 |
|     8 | ercolinux         |          0 |
|     8 | TECSHARE          |          0 |
|     7 | Bicknellski       |          0 |
|     7 | LoweryCBS         |          0 |
+-------+-------------------+------------+

[AndrewWilliams]

You're safe, Vod is trusted by 7 people or less.

He appears in the trust list at a depth setting of two.

He needs to either cut out his lies and trolling, or be removed.

[BadBear]

That list refers to 'custom' trust lists, people who have setup their own lists, which may or may not include default trust.

[Kouye]

You're safe, Vod is trusted by 7 people or less.

He appears in the trust list at a depth setting of two.

He needs to either cut out his lies and trolling, or be removed.

He appears on your list because he's trusted by BadBear.
You 2 should talk, I guess.

[theymos]

Vod is in the default trust network via Tomatocage and BadBear. I don't much want to remove those people from the default trust list, so you should complain to them.

You can see how someone got into your trust network by looking at the stuff at the bottom of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

[Kouye]

I left Neg feedback for Vod until this is cleared up.

You should not. As much as Vod might have had a couple false positive, he probably have less of those than TC or me.
And he for sure helped the community be as scammer-free as possible.

BTW, Andrew has been red to me for quite a long time, too.
Still waiting for the BFL investigation.

[AndrewWilliams]

I left Neg feedback for Vod until this is cleared up.

You should not. As much as Vod might have had a couple false positive, he probably have less of those than TC or me.
And he for sure helped the community be as scammer-free as possible.

BTW, Andrew has been red to me for quite a long time, too.
Still waiting for the BFL investigation.

Kouye, you are ridiculous. It's bad enough you joined Vod in giving me bad feedback based on his lies.

He's a liar, get it through your head.

One false positive is bad enough if he refuses to correct it!

[AndrewWilliams]

Vod is in the default trust network via Tomatocage and BadBear. I don't much want to remove those people from the default trust list, so you should complain to them.

You can see how someone got into your trust network by looking at the stuff at the bottom of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Thanks theymos.

I am aware of why he appears in the trust network. For now I have adjusted it to a depth of just one level.

I trust BadBear and Tamatocage based on their posts history so....

I will look to them to resolve this with Vod.

[BadBear]

I'm not ignoring the issue, just taking a wait and see approach, I think it will resolve itself without my interference.

Also regarding default trust, I've been adding more people lately so issues like this are bound to pop up. I think more people deserve a chance, there should be more diversity, more representative of the community. People shouldn't be afraid to leave people on the list negative feedback, nor should people on the list have no fear of leaving 'bad' negative feedback for others.

[AndrewWilliams]

I was kind of drunk last night when I posted that.  I've removed it and I apologize for the mess.  

Interesting.

We're you drunk when you posted those two lies on my feedback?

[Tomatocage]

I make it my policy to try to flag accounts with negative trust that are almost certainly scammers. This is based on long-established criteria that, unfortunately, evolves over time as scammers adapt and evolve their methods. The sole exception is with J603's rating which was done in reaction to his Trust rating on me out of sheer spite and malice. He neg'd me first.

With the case of Vod and AndrewWilliams, I believe Vod dropped red first. Since he's in the "circle of trust", I think he should exercise his trust ratings carefully and with due diligence. It's my opinion that Vod and AndrewWilliams should step back and maybe reevaluate their ratings of each other and give ratings on past experience, not on spur-of-the-moment emotion. Wipe the slate clean and go from there, so to speak.

[Vod]

I do apply significant consideration before I leave negative trust for someone.  Last night was an exception for sure.   

[Kouye]

I do apply significant consideration before I leave negative trust for someone.  Last night was an exception for sure.   

Keep up the good work, Vod.
Cheers, and Kanpai!

[cooldgamer]

If you would read the thread in question, the dude pretty much thought he was a wizard and was saying he has been talked to by spirits.  Yeah, that's mental health issues.  Also thought he could channel the power of Jesus through him.

[jackjack]

Also thought he could channel the power of Jesus through him.

That's what my girlfriend often tells me

[cooldgamer]

If you would read the thread in question, the dude pretty much thought he was a wizard and was saying he has been talked to by spirits.  Yeah, that's mental health issues.  Also thought he could channel the power of Jesus through him.

That has nothing to do with scamming and collecting ID's. The feedback was not about wizards.

No idea about the ID collecting thing, was just talking about the Christianity thread.

[Vod]

I do apply significant consideration before I leave negative trust for someone.  Last night was an exception for sure.  

I removed the neg feedback I left for you.

Sort of off topic but what is this??

"Location:    ✔ Verified"

It makes it seem like the forum has checked on your address or something...

Seems I should make some new warnings on your account or am I missing something?

"✔ Verified" was something I saw on another account and I liked it.

I understand your point that it may be misleading to forum users that think the forum knows my location, so I edited it.

As a scambuster, I do work a lot with newbies so I have to avoid confusing things where possible.

[Vod]

I've left the OP negative trust based on reports I have received.

The OP could have responded by saying "I'm sorry, I won't ask for that info again".  Instead he chose to lie about me four different times.  I'm not going to go into each individual lie YET AGAIN, because I'm sick of having my words twisted and I'm sure the forum is as well.

If OP wants to start fresh, he needs to remove his negative feedback.  I'm not considering anything while that BS is up there.

[AndrewWilliams]

I've left the OP negative trust based on reports I have received.

The OP could have responded by saying "I'm sorry, I won't ask for that info again".  Instead he chose to lie about me four different times.  I'm not going to go into each individual lie YET AGAIN, because I'm sick of having my words twisted and I'm sure the forum is as well.

If OP wants to start fresh, he needs to remove his negative feedback.  I'm not considering anything while that BS is up there.

Honestly, I've gone through all my posts and PM's and have never, even in a drunken stupor asked for that. :confused:

So you know: I will never ask for a social security number period. If I did something that made you distrust me, asking for personal info when making loans, then I apologize and it will not happen again.

Neg feedback removed.



Your move.