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Author Topic: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip  (Read 368035 times)
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November 27, 2013, 05:29:38 AM
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Let's give Bitmain some time.  I'm sure when they are ready, we all get to see it. 

By the way, now, I'm going to try to make the setup guide better, if any of you got a speed bump setting up the AntMiner or while using it, please let me know, so I can put it up how to deal with it.

Again, I'll be up here for the next few hours.  List here or PM me, it doesn't matter! 

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November 27, 2013, 05:34:46 AM
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Thank sushi: sales and service contact me, helped me set up.
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November 27, 2013, 06:11:42 AM
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Great!  Happy Mining!!!

Thank sushi: sales and service contact me, helped me set up.

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November 27, 2013, 06:36:13 AM
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Great!  Happy Mining!!!

Thank sushi: sales and service contact me, helped me set up.
If you're using PM's to help people then others won't learn if problems occur again.

not trying to have a go at you it's just what forums are used for everyone to learn

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November 27, 2013, 07:12:07 AM
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I haven't heard from this guy how the problem was fixed...  I wish I could know so I could add it to the list of trouble shooting section

I wander where he purchased the Antminer from as Bitmain said there was no record of sale directly to this user.  May be his/her buddy purchased it for him/her?



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November 27, 2013, 08:49:51 AM
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Following this thread for some time, unfortunately missed both of the auctions...

That said, can anyone explain to me please how AntMiner going to pay itself off due to big diff jump in a few days?
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624121dfd8

Will be happy if someone checks my calculations.
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November 27, 2013, 08:56:58 AM
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I'm looking at it right now...

The difficulties will sure go up in the next few days or by end of the week but we don't know the exact number.  Hope it's not that bad.  Also, it will depends on how high the BTC value goes up, too.  (If you cash out the BTC daily to FIAT $$$ or keep the BTC for later FIAT Exchange when the price is right)

Either way, the auction winner will get what they paid for back + some extra if the BTC values keep going up + resale value of the miner. They will more than likely have 10 - 20% ROI or more if they play the game right which is better than the traditional investment opportunities. (But the risk is always there!)

Some of the 1st round winners are mining about 0.16 BTC a day and could be a bit more depends on the luck.

Doing the ROI Math is very complex one.  If you are serious about making profit, you gotta have the endgame plan how you are going to get max profit out of your investment and how much effort you can afford to put into the project.  The online calculator will give you only 1 aspect of the number.  There are so many other factors built into the Bitcoin Inestment, if that is what you are going after.

Also, not everyone buy miners to make profit, some are for their hobby and others with other reasons.  


Following this thread for a bit, unfortunately missed both of the auctions...

That, said anyone can explain me please how AntMiner going to pay itself off due to big diff jump in a few days?
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624121dfd8

Will be happy if someone checks my calculations.

>>> PM me for New ASIC Miner's Info.  We will go check it out <<<
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November 27, 2013, 11:56:44 AM
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First group buy of S1 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348747.0
Going to sell out quick  Smiley
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November 27, 2013, 12:32:02 PM
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excellent answer sushi... a lot of miners tend to just look at bitcoin calculator but overlook other avenues to maximize their ROI...

Doing the ROI Math is very complex one.  If you are serious about making profit, you gotta have the endgame plan how you are going to get max profit out of your investment and how much effort you can afford to put into the project.  The online calculator will give you only 1 aspect of the number.  There are so many other factors built into the Bitcoin Inestment, if that is what you are going after.


Following this thread for a bit, unfortunately missed both of the auctions...

That, said anyone can explain me please how AntMiner going to pay itself off due to big diff jump in a few days?
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624121dfd8

Will be happy if someone checks my calculations.
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November 27, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
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They are real guys, just in case you were still doubting:
After receiving tracking, I made two power cables from PCI extension cables:


And then the unit arrived. You've already seen the box, so here is the unit(single blade) from different sides(images are clickable):








more to come...

I am selling in stock OneStringMiner boards, based on the Bitfury chips. Have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495536.0
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November 27, 2013, 07:19:44 PM
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That said, can anyone explain to me please how AntMiner going to pay itself off due to big diff jump in a few days?
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624121dfd8

Will be happy if someone checks my calculations.

Difficulty won't keep doubling for more than a few more months. It'll level off eventually, and these should reach break even in 6-12 months.

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November 27, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
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First group buy of S1 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348747.0
Going to sell out quick  Smiley

Not a dig at you, you're just reselling but what happened to the $2800 price tag, bitmains costs haven't changed

It's as I predicted...

I was eagerly looking forward to this and hoping it would be priced with a reasonable chance of ROI.

The problem with running an auction for the first machines (as happened with asicminer) is that there are enough people who don't care about ROI and just want to have new equipment that the price ends up being way too high.

The manufacturer then sees that people will pay $4500 for it and prices it accordingly.

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November 27, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
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First group buy of S1 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348747.0
Going to sell out quick  Smiley

Not a dig at you, you're just reselling but what happened to the $2800 price tag, bitmains costs haven't changed

It's as I predicted...

I was eagerly looking forward to this and hoping it would be priced with a reasonable chance of ROI.

The problem with running an auction for the first machines (as happened with asicminer) is that there are enough people who don't care about ROI and just want to have new equipment that the price ends up being way too high.

The manufacturer then sees that people will pay $4500 for it and prices it accordingly.

This.

There was no "bar raised" here or even as I have stated earlier where the original posts talks about a website with shopping cart and inventory.. this is/was another ASICMINER type operation.. 

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November 27, 2013, 07:45:26 PM
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There was no "bar raised" here or even as I have stated earlier where the original posts talks about a website with shopping cart and inventory.. this is/was another ASICMINER type operation..  

Yep, said the same thing early on. I don't blame them, as i pontificated anything else would be a scam.

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November 27, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
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They are real guys, just in case you were still doubting:
I can confirm— it mines.   Three days from providing my phone number for shipping to it arriving to me in California.  Will post writeup and pictures soon.
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November 27, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
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4.25 BTC   Shocked 
Really ?
$ 4080 at exchange rate (Bitstamp) right now...

Good luck for all buyers.
I blacklist this company right now, they don't rise the bar, they are here to take the most money of us.
ASICminer/Avalon copycat.
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November 27, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
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Review:

Hardware:
The unit looks well build. Missing from this review model is the housing, which it is missing for sure. The ASIC chips closest to the fan are at least 15 degrees C cooler than the chips at the other end of the board. Simply because their hardly any airflow over them.

The heat sink on the board is not the ordinary straight one, but has round shaped fins for a little bit more area, so a bit better cooling. The fan speed is controlled, and at times revs to 5500rpm. According to http://www.nmbtc.com/fans/part-numbers/DC-Axial/4715KL-04W-B56/5267 the air flow is up to 130CFM, so rather high for a 12cm fan.

Temperature of the heat sink is between 35oC and 43oC, again without casing. Overall the temperature varies between 40oC and 60oC depending on the part and place on the board relative to the fan. (I got all temps with an infrared thermometer).

The PCB itself looks very clean and neat. I viewed it under a magnifying glass and am impressed by the quality. All soldering joints are neat, all components are straight on the board and the four parts of the board are screwed to the heat sink with 20 screws.

I had to disconnect and connect the power a few times while viewing the unit from all sides. It seems rather sensitive to vibration and is best left alone once installed.

The asic chips run on a frequency of 350Mhz and this doesn’t seem to change. The fan is throttling for extra cooling if needed. There is one temperature shown on the miner status webpage.

The unit is easy to disassemble, it has two plates, two connecting rods between the plates and the heat sink is also screwed against the two plates, making it a sturdy construction.

According to my Corsair AX1200i, the unit uses ~17A @ 12V (~204W) and produces around ~85GH/s according to Btcguild. This calculates to ~2.4W / GH/s.

Verdict: Pretty good for a first product!

Software:
The unit is running a modified version of OpenWrt Barrier Breaker r38031 / LuCi Trunk (svn-r9909) running on a TP-Link TL-WR743N/NB v2.

The unit has to work hard, after login in with ssh, top showed 90%-100% cpu for cgminer most of the time. I was running the unit over wifi, but doubt if this has anything to do with it.

The cgminer version on this unit is 3.4.3, the command running is cgminer —-lowmem —bitmain-options 115200:32:8:40:350:4d81 -G -o stratum+tcp://eu-stratum.btcguild.com:3333 …

Since the unit has 64Gb of ram, of which less than 50% is used, I removed the —lowmem, and at a first glance this seems to make it run a bit smoother(CPU: usr 60%, sys 40% versus usr 40%, sys 60%) and a higher hash rate(5+ GH/s, but again by running for a few minutes). This has to be tested better than just for a few minutes. There certainly is room for improvement here, given the amount of free memory.

Every 3 minutes cgminer-monitor is executed. The monitor checks three things. Is cgminer running, has their been newer „Last valid work” and is the miner count not blank. If either of the three checks fails, it kills cgminer and restarts it.

The web interface looks a lot like the Avalon software, so I had no trouble finding my way. At first the pages loaded slow and sluggish, but after removing the lowmem option from cgminer the loading went a lot faster.

There is room for 3 pool specifications on the miner configuration screen. There is bio field yet for extra cgminer options, nor to change the ASIC speed. This can be done via ssh, by modifying the file /etc/init.d/cgminer, but should be available via the web interface too.

Backup/Flash firmware is available via the web, but I haven’t seen new versions yet.

While browsing through the web pages I now and then see some XML parsing errors, but they disappear within a second. I searched through the logfiles available, but there were no XML messages in it. (NO, not by hand, but: # grep -i xml `find / -name '*log*' -print`)

This should be enough text for now, feel free to ask questions and I’ll answer them tomorrow CET.

Edit: After receiving comments on it, I have to confirm that the relation I wrote above between --lowmem and a higher hash rate is incorrect. Me looking at the top screen while writing the review at the correct/wrong moments, take your pick.

I stand corrected, hence this edit of the review.

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November 27, 2013, 09:39:25 PM
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The unit has to work hard, after login in with ssh, top showed 90%-100% cpu for cgminer most of the time. I was running the unit over wifi, but doubt if this has anything to do with it.

The cgminer version on this unit is 3.4.3, the command running is cgminer —-lowmem —bitmain-options 115200:32:8:40:350:4d81 -G -o stratum+tcp://eu-stratum.btcguild.com:3333 …

Since the unit has 64Gb of ram, of which less than 50% is used, I removed the —lowmem, and at a first glance this seems to make it run a bit smoother(CPU: usr 60%, sys 40% versus usr 40%, sys 60%) and a higher hash rate(5+ GH/s, but again by running for a few minutes). This has to be tested better than just for a few minutes. There certainly is room for improvement here, given the amount of free memory.

Interesting... i noticed the 90 - 100% cpu usage even on wired LAN... Not using wifi at all. Will remove the lowmem option tomorrow.

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November 28, 2013, 01:10:00 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348327.0
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Mine arrived and getting her all set up. Thanks Bitmain team !
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