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November 15, 2013, 05:14:11 PM |
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There's no good reason for it except to get some large retailers to accept it, but it will obviously undermine the relative anonymity of Bitcoin. Personally, I would never do it.
Sure there is. To make Yifu's coins worth more!! How about we blacklist every coin Yifu mined with the "delayed" batch 2 Avalon miners ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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November 15, 2013, 05:32:05 PM |
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Governments will simply be ignored , if forced in the U.S.A The U.S.A will be forced out ,,, its just that simple.
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November 15, 2013, 07:20:07 PM |
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Governments will simply be ignored , if forced in the U.S.A
Unfortunately the Achilles' heel of Bitcoin is the exchanges. If Bitcoins cannot be bought or sold into flat easily, then they are next to useless. It will remain a small niche market which it cannot escape. Unfortunately a compromise is going to have to be made somehow, or the banks/governments will simply clamp down on the exchanges.
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November 15, 2013, 07:48:38 PM Last edit: November 15, 2013, 08:04:11 PM by Feri22 |
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Governments will simply be ignored , if forced in the U.S.A
Unfortunately the Achilles' heel of Bitcoin is the exchanges. If Bitcoins cannot be bought or sold into flat easily, then they are next to useless. It will remain a small niche market which it cannot escape. Unfortunately a compromise is going to have to be made somehow, or the banks/governments will simply clamp down on the exchanges. You can always create exchanges based in..i don't know, Uganda or some other country where they don't give a fu*k about US...USA is not only country in world...so you can send fiat there..exchange it for bitcoins...there always will be some ways...you just need the courage to try it...but the thing is, it would not be mainstream. I can't imagine bitcoin being #1 world currency while being banned in more countries..i think now it is the most important time in the existance of bitcoin....Would you sacriface your privacy for btc going mainstream or would you sacriface btc going mainstream for your privacy? Problem with foundation (only few members) I have is, that governments didn't even ask for this (maybe they did, but don't know about it, if yes, i am sorry and ignore this post) and bitcoin foundation would likely to implement it to "please" the governments before they even ask for it...and i have very strong feeling that they (bitcoin foundation) want to make a decisions (even in future important decisioins) despite bitcoin community opinion...if this will hapen...We should change bitcoin foundation, because i don't think they can change the community...compromise? Maybe, but they should ask the community first, not other members of the foundation because it looks like they think they are like VIP group, something more than average btc user....they can't wonder there is this reaction from our community members going on here...and if they wonder...again, maybe there should be some changes in bitcoin foundation board members...right now we have big lack of communication
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November 15, 2013, 09:50:42 PM |
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Well since everyone voted no I guess we are safe for now.
Its a little scary the way Bitcoin is SUPPOSED to be an uncontrollable opt-in system, but in reality depends on mass opinion... unless you just want to trade with yourself.
I mean lets say: 1. You have Bitcoins and/or a Bitcoin business. 2. General public adopts Bitcoin. 3. General public, with a healthy government shove, changes Bitcoin - say adds blacklisting.
What do you do now? Leave your money? Stop your business?
Scary how quickly our revolution could end if people are stupid enough.
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November 15, 2013, 10:03:31 PM |
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Q: Do you want to see Coin Validation implemented?![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Y_ODcECzxGQ%2FT4sMKffGa8I%2FAAAAAAAAA88%2FLnQ8Dvynqbg%2Fs1600%2Fmichael-scott-no.gif&t=665&c=S9NRSZdVhBKsQA)
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November 15, 2013, 10:04:26 PM |
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governments CANNOT regulate bitcoin unless we allow it
Yes, and you can see in this thread the people who will allow it. Because it's "inevitable". Because they want to comply with the government. Because they are scared. Because they put greed over principle. Frankly, I don't care about what the people do with bitcoin v.0.8. They almost certainly will turn it into Govtcoin. But the genie is out of the bottle. The true bitcoin is in our very immediate future, and it will UTTERLY DESTROY states around the world.
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November 15, 2013, 10:10:07 PM |
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The true bitcoin is in our very immediate future, and it will UTTERLY DESTROY states around the world.
Careful what you wish for.
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November 15, 2013, 10:30:58 PM Last edit: November 15, 2013, 10:41:41 PM by UncleBobs |
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Careful what you wish for.
Don't worry, I've thought it through quite carefully. You have nothing to lose but your chains ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Why don't you take a couple of hours to appreciate the genius of Murray Rothbard: https://mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.aspIt'll put your mind at ease.
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November 15, 2013, 11:23:05 PM |
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I've no problem with a private company doing this. I don;t see why a non-profit is getting involved unless $$$ lobbyists have got to them.
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November 15, 2013, 11:51:07 PM |
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governments CANNOT regulate bitcoin unless we allow it
Yes, and you can see in this thread the people who will allow it. Because it's "inevitable". Because they want to comply with the government. Because they are scared. Because they put greed over principle. Frankly, I don't care about what the people do with bitcoin v.0.8. They almost certainly will turn it into Govtcoin. But the genie is out of the bottle. The true bitcoin is in our very immediate future, and it will UTTERLY DESTROY states around the world. Maybe a better idea (than destroying states) is to regain influence in the law making process. Something like http://openministry.info/ might be a good start.
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November 16, 2013, 12:08:16 AM |
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Stop allowing possible regulation of bitcoin. The answer should be No, by everyone.
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November 16, 2013, 05:03:16 AM |
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governments CANNOT regulate bitcoin unless we allow it
Yes, and you can see in this thread the people who will allow it. Because it's "inevitable". Because they want to comply with the government. Because they are scared. Because they put greed over principle. Frankly, I don't care about what the people do with bitcoin v.0.8. They almost certainly will turn it into Govtcoin. But the genie is out of the bottle. The true bitcoin is in our very immediate future, and it will UTTERLY DESTROY states around the world. Maybe a better idea (than destroying states) is to regain influence in the law making process. Uh, no, why should the people next door to me have power to make laws that infringe my rights to life, liberty, or property?
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November 16, 2013, 02:13:16 PM |
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This is just wrong. Feels like the foundation (or the members who are going for coin validation) is acting similar to the governments.
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November 16, 2013, 02:16:46 PM |
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The answer is clearly "no".
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November 16, 2013, 02:17:23 PM |
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Stop allowing possible regulation of bitcoin. The answer should be No, by everyone.
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Bitcoin will show the world what hard money really is.
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November 16, 2013, 02:23:02 PM |
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If we have coin validation, wouldn't that make cash more anonymous? Freaking cash!?
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November 16, 2013, 02:39:15 PM |
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Stop allowing possible regulation of bitcoin. The answer should be No, by everyone.
That all depends if people want Bitcoin to go mainstream or not. We will all have to make a choice at some point, sooner rather than later my guess.
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November 16, 2013, 06:32:24 PM |
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Stop allowing possible regulation of bitcoin. The answer should be No, by everyone.
That all depends if people want Bitcoin to go mainstream or not. We will all have to make a choice at some point, sooner rather than later my guess. Well regulation to a certain degree is okay. The US government or bitcoin foundation trying to push their ways, that's a no no.
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November 16, 2013, 07:04:43 PM |
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It is awesome seeing how the community is against the oppressive systems around the world. Lets keep up the good fight. Bitcoin for Freedom.
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