2.1T 900W, Innosilicon Blake256 D9 DecredMaster/ 3.83T 1380W, S11 SiaMaster

[rogerthat55]

I just received mine, plugged in and working. I would of received it yesterday, except there was a slight hang up with customs and paying the duty tax import fee. I know this isn't like ordering from Amazon, so I'm sorry for the folks that are still waiting.

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

I just received mine, plugged in and working. I would of received it yesterday, except there was a slight hang up with customs and paying the duty tax import fee. I know this isn't like ordering from Amazon, so I'm sorry for the folks that are still waiting.

Agreed not Amazon but... at the least like Bitmain? (competitor)

First pay, first served! as they claim doesn't actually play out here at all.

[cyberdeity]

Btw, something interesting to discuss:

When I received my S11s, they were already configured to mine to SiaMining, and to this wallet:
25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

You can actually look at the stats for that wallet:
https://siamining.com/addresses/25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

Something I thought we might talk about is the peak hashrate.  The tallest I see on that chart is the 29th, which might have been when they were testing batch 1 units just prior to shipment.  That peak is 977TH.  If we conservatively estimate each S11 at about 3.4Th pool-side reported hashrate, that is roughly 287 units.  So, it would be reasonable to think that might have been what the Batch 1 size was - maybe closer to 250 since there are still units online and mining (most combined under the worker1 moniker).  There seems to be a steady baseline of about 70-80Th, so maybe they have 25 or so that are online all the time.  There's also some peaks around May 2nd and 3rd which could have been when they got back from the holiday and had to test/ship more of them.

Another interesting item of note is the all-time payout to that wallet at the bottom is 52,075,518.06 SC.  At today's SC price, that's about $1.4 million dollars worth of SC.  If they held all that and sold it today, it would account for only about 4% of today's SC transaction volume (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/siacoin/#markets)
So, it doesn't appear they have a warehouse full of these mining anywhere, unless it's being done to a different wallet.  I know it's a common assumption that these companies have hardware online for "months" before shipping to us, but it doesn't appear to be the case here.

Oh, and if anyone is following my posts, I mentioned that 1 of my 4 were not working, ends up it was the power supply, not the miner.  Thankful that's all it was, but it wasn't immediately apparent to me since the control board was working fine and I could access the interface and everything - it just kept restarting.  I guess the power supply wasn't providing enough juice to run the hash boards.  Support was responsive to all my emails during troubleshooting, no complaints there at all.

Best of luck to everyone else, I hope you get your units soon!

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

So according to that address they were mining since 2018-04-04 19:40 UTC and made 108,351.33 SC that day.... that sure is a long test drive to me.

[spartadata]

Btw, something interesting to discuss:

When I received my S11s, they were already configured to mine to SiaMining, and to this wallet:
25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

You can actually look at the stats for that wallet:
https://siamining.com/addresses/25865daf640696361b432bd517b812270d8459af48f13876108354ee7e028e0e15c13ab5030c

Something I thought we might talk about is the peak hashrate.  The tallest I see on that chart is the 29th, which might have been when they were testing batch 1 units just prior to shipment.  That peak is 977TH.  If we conservatively estimate each S11 at about 3.4Th pool-side reported hashrate, that is roughly 287 units.  So, it would be reasonable to think that might have been what the Batch 1 size was - maybe closer to 250 since there are still units online and mining (most combined under the worker1 moniker).  There seems to be a steady baseline of about 70-80Th, so maybe they have 25 or so that are online all the time.  There's also some peaks around May 2nd and 3rd which could have been when they got back from the holiday and had to test/ship more of them.

Another interesting item of note is the all-time payout to that wallet at the bottom is 52,075,518.06 SC.  At today's SC price, that's about $1.4 million dollars worth of SC.  If they held all that and sold it today, it would account for only about 4% of today's SC transaction volume (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/siacoin/#markets)
So, it doesn't appear they have a warehouse full of these mining anywhere, unless it's being done to a different wallet.  I know it's a common assumption that these companies have hardware online for "months" before shipping to us, but it doesn't appear to be the case here.

Oh, and if anyone is following my posts, I mentioned that 1 of my 4 were not working, ends up it was the power supply, not the miner.  Thankful that's all it was, but it wasn't immediately apparent to me since the control board was working fine and I could access the interface and everything - it just kept restarting.  I guess the power supply wasn't providing enough juice to run the hash boards.  Support was responsive to all my emails during troubleshooting, no complaints there at all.

Best of luck to everyone else, I hope you get your units soon!

Very much appreciated - your detailed deep dive into wallet history and peek hash periods are very helpful to us all in at least getting some factual details together.

I for one received my tracking number today after waiting 8 days post payment confirmation. Not to conclude my particular situation but like another poster mentioned - I called DHL to get more info on my packages since I ordered many units and they told me none of the packages are yet received by DHL. Oddly I received the tracking today but the tracking number is marked as created on 4/30 as per DHL tracking information details.

If this is what is happening to all current shipments where there is only a tracking number but no actual packages to track how long is this phase of limbo are we to expect a real trackable package for the products we paid for? Patience is far past since others are complaining about the same exact situations.

[cyberdeity]

It drops off a lot at 4/9, so my thought was that was probably the first batch of B52's that Halong Mining sent out (keep in mind all these miners are just rebadged DragonMint miners), they tested them for 5 days before sending them out to buyers.

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

If this is what is happening to all current shipments where there is only a tracking number but no actual packages to track how long is this phase of limbo are we to expect a real trackable package for the products we paid for? Patience is far past since others are complaining about the same exact situations.

I have had my phantom tracking ID since Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 21:30 and have discussed with DHL to which DHL stated they have no physical package at all.

@Inno claims DHL is slow to insert into their systems yet DHL clearly shows this statement on their tracking page:

No need to call Customer Service – our online results give you real-time, detailed progress as your shipment speeds through the DHL network.

[spartadata]

So lets try and help INNO out here with feedback that will be useful and more accurate to us and potential customers...

I would start by suggesting to detail the ordering process more realistically based on these facts here - we have been confirmed as paid for up to 10+ days with no confirmed shipped goods in some cases.

As such ship date with real tracking numbers that show as DHL received goods should be noted as exact days post payment confirmation not the fake 3 days shipment thats noted on the website. This is obviously not the case by a long shot.

Other members what do you suggest?

So far my case - payment confirmation on 26th - tracking without DHL received of goods on 4th (8 days). Still not shipped according to DHL... Same as other members have noted.

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

So far my case - payment confirmation on 26th - tracking without DHL received of goods on 4th (8 days). Still not shipped according to DHL... Same as other members have noted.

Payment Date: April 21 2018

Confirmation Date: April 27 2018

Tracking # Issue Date (email):  April 29 2018

Communication from @Inno: May 02 2018

The goods have already been delivered to the DHL.
For more information, please consult DHL

As of May 04 2018, DHL claims no drop of any package for the tracking number supplied has occurred.

Waybill: xxxxxxxxxxx
Shipment information received
Sign up for shipment notifications
Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 21:30
Origin Service Area:
HONG KONG - HONG KONG - HONG KONG
Destination Service Area:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Saturday, April 28, 2018                              Location                            Time          Pieces
1   Shipment information received   HONG KONG - HONG KONG    21:30               x2


INNOSILICON HAS STILL NOT SHIPPED THE UNIT

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

Interesting new bit of information here....

The S11 units appear to have a new firmware available dated April 28 2018

 S11_20180428_063624.swu 080FE99C9A474D4C07C8888EFDD8FC6D

URL source: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/downA4/

I wonder if they are needing to flash units after they realized they originally shipped out with Halong SW installed rather than their own UX?


Just a thought....

[Bitmarioscoins]

@Inno_ASIC could you please help me troubleshoot my D9 that I received today. 1 hashing board is not working

Same here! Board #1 is not working.  Have you figured out the problem?

[bendingappaloosaH]

These are two different brands, but the designs of this are exactly the same.

[cyberdeity]

Interesting new bit of information here....

The S11 units appear to have a new firmware available dated April 28 2018

 S11_20180428_063624.swu 080FE99C9A474D4C07C8888EFDD8FC6D

URL source: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/downA4/

I wonder if they are needing to flash units after they realized they originally shipped out with Halong SW installed rather than their own UX?


Just a thought....

The firmware update available from Innosilicon's website is identical to the one available from Halong.  The update does make the interface better.  I did not do any performance comparison to see if it hashes faster or anything like that between the stock firmware and this update.  One bug I've found so far is that the "autotune" for performance never ends.  Doesn't seem to affect things tho.

PS C:\firmware> get-filehash *.swu

Algorithm       Hash                                                                   Path                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
---------       ----                                                                   ----                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\b52_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\S11_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

[sweeperAA]

Regarding configuring the decred miner to nicehash's stratum server, I contacted them before I received mine and they said,

*****************
Hello!

I can tell you that we do not support Innosilicon miners. We have not had any known experiences with Halog B29 yet.

Kind regards,
NiceHash Team
*****************

I've also attempted to configure my D9 to the nicehash stratum. It resolved as "alive" but it was rejecting every share. Unfortunately, nicehash doesn't seem to know that the D9 (inno) and the B29 (halong) are the same miners.

I would hope that the more people complain about this, the more they'll do to support the D9 and B29 on the decred stratum.

[KashHappy]

Regarding configuring the decred miner to nicehash's stratum server, I contacted them before I received mine and they said,

*****************
Hello!

I can tell you that we do not support Innosilicon miners. We have not had any known experiences with Halog B29 yet.

Kind regards,
NiceHash Team
*****************

I've also attempted to configure my D9 to the nicehash stratum. It resolved as "alive" but it was rejecting every share. Unfortunately, nicehash doesn't seem to know that the D9 (inno) and the B29 (halong) are the same miners.

I would hope that the more people complain about this, the more they'll do to support the D9 and B29 on the decred stratum.

That's silly! I would have told them it is a B29. The only thing that I've noticed thats different is the sticker. I'd try sending another message stating you have problems with your B29 miner. Why are you using Nicehash btw? Why not mine at a pool?

[KashHappy]

The answer from Innosilicon the most "serious" company of miners, about my request to convert the price of BTC-USD well: "The price of D9 will not change", they do not care about customers, they only care about the money $$ .

Hello thank you for your feedback.

The price of the first batch and the second batch D9 is 6800 USD...It's not change...Because you say "The profit of D9 is now going down, and the price is goin up"

Feel free to let me know if you have any question. Thank you.

I mean the conversion of users that so many people will stay, that you pay in BTC the price is almost $ 700 higher than paying in dollars. $ 6800 is an excellent price but if you could pay like this with Bitcoin or Litecoin, maybe $ 200 more expensive would not be a problem, but not $ 700 or $ 800, so the price does not go up to $ 7500 like now... It's just an opinion, and I would like it so I could buy and pay with Bitcoin as many people want. Thanks

Hopefully, Inno will add a conversion interface soon that more closely mirrors the market value for BTC/LTC rates. That's quite a bit of annoyed people. Until then, those that don't want to pay a premium buying with BTC/LTC might consider converting your coins to USD and do a bank wire purchase. Inno seems to value USD more. Kinda ironic but it is what it is until it isn't.

Shipping is a different story. I had a smooth transaction, sucks so many have concerns. I would think your orders would go out before batch 2 begins shipping.

[REAL_MORPHEUS]

Finally some movement....

Saturday, May 05, 2018   Location   Time   Pieces
3   Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:14   
2 Pieces

2   Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:06   
2 Pieces

1   Shipment picked up   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   14:41   
2 Pieces

Estimated Delivery:
Tuesday, May 08, 2018
By End of Day


Purchase date of April 21 2018

I won't be walking down this path again I can say that.

Shopping experience: 1 star (out of 10) Innosilicon

Bitmain 8 star (out of 10) --- as compared to what.... and YES  I was hoping for an alternative.

[PascAle]

Hello,

According to you, it would be the best (and easiest to use) pool for my S11 and my D9, taking into account that I am a newbie in mining. I had prepared to use Nicehash, but it does not seem to work with the S11 and D9. I will receive my minor on May 8th and 9th.

Thank you for your help

[cyberdeity]

I think the problems with Nicehash were only with the D9.  I pointed one of my S11s at Nicehash for 1.5 hour and it was working.  However, the pool-side reported hashrate seemed lower.  In my mind, that sorta offset the convenience of being paid in bitcoin.

I have my S11s pointed at Luxor.  The list of pools for Siacoin is short, so you don't have a lot to pick from in reality

https://siastats.info/mining_pools

The advantage of SiaMining is that it's a PPS system, which means you accumulate siacoin for every minute they're mining, even when the pool doesn't hit a block.  The downside is the 3% fee.
Luxor is a PPLNS system, which means you only get paid when the pool hits a block.  So, you could go many hours with no payout at all, then get a large chunk payout when the pool hits a block.  Over time it should all even out statistically, and Luxor currently is 0% fee according to their website.
The other note about Luxor PPLNS is that there is a 24-hour ramp-up to prevent pool hopping, so your payouts in that first day will be less than usual as you build up your participation in the sharechain.

[klwolf2000]

So I finally got my D9 yesterday and after getting it I compared it to my Halong B29. These 2 machines are identical except for the case that the hashboards are sitting in. I was confused when hooking it up for the first time because it shows up as Dragonmint on the network  . Then when I logged into it the firmware was the exact same as the B29 except it is a slightly upgraded firmware then what Halong's miners came with. Does anyone know where to get the updated firmware because the firmware update check is obviously not working on the miners yet? Another thing that I noticed is that the D9 runs much cooler then the B29. Currently the D9 runs at about 60C and hashes at 2.36TH/s and the B29 runs at 79C and hashes at 2.39TH/s. I was able to connect both miners to Luxor's pool and they are hashing away without any issues.

EDIT:
I got the latest firmware update from Inno and applied it to my B29 and now my temps dropped to 60C and it runs the exact same as the D9