Merit became a business. What to do?

[HabBear]

Theymos said not to worry from the point of running out sMerits not from the point of open buying/selling IMO.

This statement is consistent with the Forum's stance that they don't ban the promotion of fraudulent or questionable activity. The proper course of action is to post a scam accusation thread in the Reputation or Scam Accusation board.

You could also post negative trust for anyone selling or buying merit in such public fashion it can't be questioned. But this approach reeks of witch hunting.

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[criz2fer]

I think that I can understand why some users are able to sell their merit ... And some that buy..
i explain, I already saw many Jr Member having posted close to 200 posts and having no merit like me... in this way it becomes impossible to grow up to Member because you need at last 10 Merits to become Member ...
and i also think that users having sMerits are sometimes really Scrooge.. 

i really think that obtain Merit with time could be a new option ... example 2Merits a month could become a way to obtain some...

As i don’t speak correctly English, I think that I will stay Jr Member for a long time.

Try to innovate your post and help others in the forum, you will recieve your merit base on that. Waiting is not an option and open your doors for opportunity.

[hilariousetc]

Its all about you,come to think twice, if there will be no signatures there will be no spams,its purely discussions.

It's all about you more like. Why do you care about merit and ranks unless you're only here to earn as much as possible from signature campaigns? People can post here freely regardless of their rank and merit but those who actually want to contribute something worthwhile will get the merit pretty quickly. Most people just don't seem willing to contribute anything of value other than the standard generic one liners they can churn out as fast as possible in spam megathreads and those are exactly the sort of people the merit system is meant to restrict.

[xolxol]

Its all about you,come to think twice, if there will be no signatures there will be no spams,its purely discussions.

It's all about you more like. Why do you care about merit and ranks unless you're only here to earn as much as possible from signature campaigns? People can post here freely regardless of their rank and merit but those who actually want to contribute something worthwhile will get the merit pretty quickly. Most people just don't seem willing to contribute anything of value other than the standard generic one liners they can churn out as fast as possible in spam megathreads and those are exactly the sort of people the merit system is meant to restrict.

I dont care about the ranks,merits and etc, i do care about the spam that these signatures has caused.Most of the DT members here are doing their shit things with the lower ranks and people who doesnt have the ability to write english,the inability to do that causing those people to get unmerciful red trusts.I know someone who has been here for 5years ,a good english speaker who does receive red trust for arguing to these godly DT members.

How is that fair ?That is purely bullshit,the pharmacist specifically is giving away red trust to those people who got him irrate,who moderate these people? and who moderate those people who put this idiot DT members?

[TheUltraElite]

I dont care about the ranks,merits and etc, i do care about the spam that these signatures has caused.

You know that signatures wont be removed because they generate a huge amount of traffic to the forum? Stop being toxic for no reason whatsoever.

Most of the DT members here are doing their shit things with the lower ranks and people who doesnt have the ability to write english,the inability to do that causing those people to get unmerciful red trusts.I know someone who has been here for 5years ,a good english speaker who does receive red trust for arguing to these godly DT members.

Specific cases have specific evidence to be proven. If there is evidence that the person is guilty of doing something illegal or against the rules or account sales then they will be negged. This has nothing to do with arguing with any DT member. Thats your imagination. Also why are you even interested in someone else's account so much? No wonder its your alt account itself.

How is that fair ?That is purely bullshit,the pharmacist specifically is giving away red trust to those people who got him irrate,who moderate these people? and who moderate those people who put this idiot DT members?

Possibly The Pharmacist gets 100+ PMs per day. He is a human after all and thus its possible he has disabled PMs. But he would not give trust for no reason. Stop making up BS stories.

[shapegray]

People just care with merit. Whereas the real purpose of this forum is to share knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. I don't think this forum will be like this. Just care about Bounty and Merit.

[bobq]

thats why me gets no merits till now even after good suggestive and usefull posts

No, you're getting no merits because your grasp of English is so bad that you even screwed up your username.

I can't believe how utterly moronic these people are, that they really think that because they "workhard" that they're somehow entitled to get merits, and that they see nothing wrong with garbage shitposts like

me too afraid to invest my BTC was thinking and thinking to invest but  slowly slowly btc going down and im in loss so do as much as quick and correct discussion as soon as possible ...

I can't even understand the first fucking 6 words of that post, so there's no way I would even continue reading it, much less actually award merits for it.  This guy is probably a 12 year old Filipino kid, picking his nose and wheedling his mother for pocket change.  Even worse, it's probably family who introduced him to bitcointalk.

OK, now I had my 5 minutes of true laughing The guy performing the Dance of Merit while being even unable not to screw up his username - that's hilarious. Not to speak of his cryptic expressionistic statement quoted below. LoL. But this leads me to a big question: if he makes us laugh so much, even though unintentionally, isn't he in the end paradoxically worth a little bit of Merit?

[shahzadafzal]

Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044231.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2736633.0

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

[TheQuin]

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

There is also a greater chance the seller doesn't even have the account and somebody will get scammed.

Anatomy of an BitcoinTalk.org account purchase SCAM.

That's equally likely in any Merit trade as well.

[TheUltraElite]

People just care with merit. Whereas the real purpose of this forum is to share knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. I don't think this forum will be like this. Just care about Bounty and Merit.

The forum was not like this a few years back when there were people who used to talk about differenet crypto and their trading methods and how they are facing problems or coping up with them. With the number of shittoken bounties coming up every other child born in the bottomfeeder vomitposter world countries is learning to "hunt" these bounties and not try to earn a living by conventional means. Merit stopped them like a huge stone wall which is why people are whining about it now..

[Jet Cash]

Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044231.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2736633.0

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

Stealing an account and selling it is one possibility, and it's one reason why it's probably not worth buying them. It will probably be detected before you can get your money back.

Selling a genuine account might be worth it if you are giving up on Bitcoin Talk. I think we are at the start of a new period of growth, so now is not the time to quit.

[adarwis]

Be careful, it could be a hacked account, preferably using escrow services to transact, but the price is for a legendary account, is quite cheap.

[mahimonliner]

members like us have to report them in forum so that moderators can see what are they doing and take further action for the good of this forum.
I dont know there is any section/thread for report merit sellers/buyers. If there is any please kindly drop the link anyone.

[mahimonliner]

Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044231.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2736633.0

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

Stealing an account and selling it is one possibility, and it's one reason why it's probably not worth buying them. It will probably be detected before you can get your money back.

Selling a genuine account might be worth it if you are giving up on Bitcoin Talk. I think we are at the start of a new period of growth, so now is not the time to quit.

selling a legendary account for 500$ is no way possible the owner is not that crazy to do so.
It surely a stolen account,and if it is a stolen one then it will be detected and be banned by the moderators.

[techbill]

This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?

[shahzadafzal]

This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?

You are not alone asking this questions so don't worry not a stupid question, here is a quote from thyemos, bitcointalk's owner and administrator. He is hoping to achieve two simple tasks out this merit crap.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

So is it too much to ask for a quality?

[techbill]

This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?

You are not alone asking this questions so don't worry not a stupid question, here is quote from the thyemos, bitcointalk's owner and administrator. He is hoping to achieve two simple tasks out this merit crap.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

So is it too much to ask for a quality?

Thank you for the response. And no it's not too much to ask for quality, the problem that I'm seeing is that the merit system is not enough because most people do not care to give merit for quality posts. It basically just leaves it for a lot of abusers.

[maksimukr1989]

thats why me gets no merits till now even after good suggestive and usefull posts

No, you're getting no merits because your grasp of English is so bad that you even screwed up your username.

I can't believe how utterly moronic these people are, that they really think that because they "workhard" that they're somehow entitled to get merits, and that they see nothing wrong with garbage shitposts like

me too afraid to invest my BTC was thinking and thinking to invest but  slowly slowly btc going down and im in loss so do as much as quick and correct discussion as soon as possible ...

I can't even understand the first fucking 6 words of that post, so there's no way I would even continue reading it, much less actually award merits for it.  This guy is probably a 12 year old Filipino kid, picking his nose and wheedling his mother for pocket change.  Even worse, it's probably family who introduced him to bitcointalk.

thanks) laughed from souls

[Jet Cash]

Thank you for the response. And no it's not too much to ask for quality, the problem that I'm seeing is that the merit system is not enough because most people do not care to give merit for quality posts. It basically just leaves it for a lot of abusers.

I'm so tired of reading this type of comment. I dropped my standards from 'quality' to 'good', and I still have trouble finding posts that I like, and when I do, it's often a legendary.

Most posts suffer from foot and mouth disease. Don't engage brain, open mouth, and put your foot in it.

[krishnaverma]

Theymos said not to worry from the point of running out sMerits not from the point of open buying/selling IMO.

This statement is consistent with the Forum's stance that they don't ban the promotion of fraudulent or questionable activity. The proper course of action is to post a scam accusation thread in the Reputation or Scam Accusation board.

You could also post negative trust for anyone selling or buying merit in such public fashion it can't be questioned. But this approach reeks of witch hunting.

Would be interesting to see how much tolerance is allowed for merit use ?

Repeated merit abuse should result in permanent ban in my opinion. Some people are not concerned about negative trust on their account simply because they are not using the account for signature campaign. Also, there are members buying accounts with negative trust here as well.