Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies.

[matsusomoto]

The truth will always prevail,i dont want to talk about this greedy man but instead i pity those newbie investors who wrongfully invested to bitcoin cash,This arsehole should be put in jain as soon as possible because he isnt doing the right thing isntead he is opposing the bitcoin's vision because he is going to benefit from having his cash in the cryptocurrency market.

[JollyGood]

He can only be put in jail if a crime has been committed and clearly none has.

I also have no time for Ver and what he stands for but legally the best chance of stopping the damage he is doing to Bitcoin is by forcing him to hand over the bitcoin.com domain to bitcoin.org team

[kingkonjac]

so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit.

[onurgozupek]

Stay away from Bitcoin.com because it acts like Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin which is Roger Ver's dream. He says Bitcoin Cash (in fact we are not sure if it's BCash, BCH or BCC) is the real Bitcoin and that's totally wrong. Some users on Twitter call BCash as Shitcoin Cash... Bcash is indeed an altcoin but it's definitely not Bitcoin. Bitcoin which created by Satoshi Nakamoto is the real Bitcoin, not the one created by a businessman for more profit.

[rezurect]

Bitcoin has made him so rich and he turns his back on it like a true Judas.

[pitiflin]

What do you think about? If he is finally sued and fined and/or put in jail again, I am not going to cry.

He is going to prison again? Do you know why he went to the prison in the first place?
Even if he is going to get sued, he is a fucking millionaire, he'll find his way out of it. Unless he is faced by a damn good lawyer who doesn't give a shit about money, so yeah he is going to get out of the supposed lawsuit even before it begins.

[JollyGood]

What is the latest on this? Is there any news or movement on any papers being served on Ver?

[franky1]

NO ONE should own bitcoin
the bitcoin brand is decentralised. no one has ownership

meaning core do not either

bitcoin core is not 'the only' bitcoin

the community decide what they personally hold in their pocket is cash or core, and only in common terms of talking to others in the same
currency do they abreviate it. but it does not mean the other side cant use the same common abreviation terms aswell

its best explained like this

dollars
no country owns dollars.
there is canadian dollars
there is australian dollars
there is american dollars

an american can for the simplicity of common conversation say that what they have in their pockets are dollars.
bit the reality is they have american dollars in their pocket
but in no way does it mean an american can claim that australia/canada dont have/use dollars

a canadian can for the simplicity of common conversation say that what they have in their pockets are dollars.
bit the reality is they have canadian dollars in their pocket
but in no way does it mean a canadian can claim that american/australian dont have/use dollars

an australian can for the simplicity of common conversation say that what they have in their pockets are dollars.
bit the reality is they have australian dollars in their pocket
but in no way does it mean an australian can claim that america/canada dont have/use dollars

back to describing bitcoin events:
..
unlike clams which was a unilateral fork... bitcoin core and bitcoin cash done a bilateral split.. not unilateral
its not a
_________________core
            \_________cash

or a
             _________core
_______/_________cash

but a
           __________core
______/
          \__________cash

it was a bilateral split not a unilateral split..

core DO NOT OWN brand bitcoin............ no one does!!!

th conversation is

european: "i want dollars"
exchange: "is that american, canadian or australian your interested in"

fiat holder: "i want bitcoin"
exchange: "is that core or cash your interested in"

.. and remember this vital point
the BScartel (blockstream & bloq funders) were the ones orchestrating the bilateral split.
namely gmaxwell employing samson mow to USAF propaganda a fake NON-consensus election.. and bloq to implement a fake opponent to core.

so it was the same BSCartel that created bitcoin cash and core fork.. ver did not even instigate it.
so wheres the finger pointing at jgarziq, gavin, and gmaxwell for making bitcoin cash

as for the "victims"
if they wanted to buy bitcoin and only paid ~$800 (under $1k a coin) then they are not a victim

much like fiat
european: "i want dollar.."
exchange: "ok thats 0.61euros per dollar.." hands over 1australian dollar
european: wow thats cheap, but its not a US dollar
exchange. no, you never requested U.S. and you paid the correct amount for a australian dollar
european: ill sue you for not giving me a U.S dollar at the AU rate
exchange: "good luck trying"
vs
european: "i want dollar.."
exchange: "ok thats 0.81euros per dollar.." hands over 1australian dollar
european: whats this crap, its not a US dollar. i paid the price of a U.S dollar
european: ill sue you for not giving me a U.S dollar and giving me a AU dollar but not at the AU rate
exchange: "oh crap i dun goofed"

or more simply
a: "iwant an apple"
b: "thats 50cents" .. hands (a) a fruit apple
a: "i wanted a phone im gonna sue"
b: "for 50cents.. not gonna happen you get what you paid for.. but your a good comedian, goodluck with the day job"
vs
a: "iwant an apple"
b: "thats $500" .. hands (a) a fruit apple
a: "$500 for fruit. i wanted a phone, im gonna sue"
b: "oh crap i dun goofed"

i wonder how many victims paid more than $7k for 1 bitcoin cash... i would say there were none.. so they paid for what they got

[SupportBitcoin]

I can see that lawsuit having some merit. We will have to see how it does.

[JollyGood]

I can see that lawsuit having some merit. We will have to see how it does.

Without a strong case and without funding being made available there will not be any action taken. Ver has hundreds of millions of US$ to fight off any legal action.

[Wind_FURY]

I have no idea whether a lawsuit could be won against him, but I would certainly welcome it
How does he have the audacity to call that trash Bitcoin fork the real Bitcoin. Imagine that newbies send their freshly bought Bitcoins to a BCH address by mistake.

Could definitely see some of those mistakes happen due to newbies getting confused by false statements like that.

But what if Roger Ver wins the lawsuit, would that give him a precedent to counter sue and use the win as a legal advantage to force the exchanges to use the "BTC" ticker for Bitcoin Cash?

Plus would the win, if he wins, mean that "Bitcoin Cash" and "Bitcoin Core" are both "BTC" and both have the right to use the ticker?
 

[Kakmakr]

I have no idea whether a lawsuit could be won against him, but I would certainly welcome it
How does he have the audacity to call that trash Bitcoin fork the real Bitcoin. Imagine that newbies send their freshly bought Bitcoins to a BCH address by mistake.

Could definitely see some of those mistakes happen due to newbies getting confused by false statements like that.

But what if Roger Ver wins the lawsuit, would that give him a precedent to counter sue and use the win as a legal advantage to force the exchanges to use the "BTC" ticker for Bitcoin Cash?

Plus would the win, if he wins, mean that "Bitcoin Cash" and "Bitcoin Core" are both "BTC" and both have the right to use the ticker?
 

How can he win? There is nothing in the Bitcoin <BTC> Whitepaper that refer to Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core, so that in itself is misrepresentation. He is using www.Reddit.com/r/BTC as a platform to promote Bitcoin Cash <a fork from Bitcoin> and that is your next misrepresentation.

The guy is a scumbag and a snake oil salesman and he needs his day in court. <He has been there before, so it will not be something new to him>

Let him use his money for something constructive and not for sabotaging Bitcoin <BTC>

[Pursuer]

I have no idea whether a lawsuit could be won against him, but I would certainly welcome it
How does he have the audacity to call that trash Bitcoin fork the real Bitcoin. Imagine that newbies send their freshly bought Bitcoins to a BCH address by mistake.

Could definitely see some of those mistakes happen due to newbies getting confused by false statements like that.

But what if Roger Ver wins the lawsuit, would that give him a precedent to counter sue and use the win as a legal advantage to force the exchanges to use the "BTC" ticker for Bitcoin Cash?

Plus would the win, if he wins, mean that "Bitcoin Cash" and "Bitcoin Core" are both "BTC" and both have the right to use the ticker?
 

How can he win? There is nothing in the Bitcoin <BTC> Whitepaper that refer to Bitcoin as Bitcoin Core, so that in itself is misrepresentation. He is using www.Reddit.com/r/BTC as a platform to promote Bitcoin Cash <a fork from Bitcoin> and that is your next misrepresentation.

The guy is a scumbag and a snake oil salesman and he needs his day in court. <He has been there before, so it will not be something new to him>

Let him use his money for something constructive and not for sabotaging Bitcoin <BTC>

ever since they failed to gain any traction in the market and because people rejected their crap and everyone considers it as an altcoin, they started to undermine bitcoin by calling it a different name "bitcoin core" as if they wanted to pretend bitcoin is the altcoin and their shitcoin is the bitcoin. recently he went as far as using BTC for bitcoin cash and if we let him he is going to use a new ticker for bitcoin to further mislead users.
there has already been reports of newbies buying BCH by mistake because the second search result (bitcoin.com) is calling bitcoin cash, bitcoin and uses BTC as its short form. and that in fact is fraud because he is selling the wrong thing. it is like buying an iPhone but receiving a Nokia instead.

[DropBombzENT]

This person needs to close his project and do something else. Plagiarism of the original product harms the whole community. New people who come to the market confuse the true bitcoin with this shit Ver

[JollyGood]

A lot of animosity towards Ver here in this thread and the forum in general, I suppose it is understandable but not something that should be promoted. As for Bitcoin Cash I never considered it anywhere near Bitcoin and always thought of it as an altcoin. There is only one Bitcoin and whales including Ver cannot influence it one bit.

[Nerman]

In some sense this is a type of scamming and definetely if it is true he should pay the consequences. Bitcoin cash wil l never ever replace bitcoin, he is an intelligent man i do not know why he can not get it. In the first place we do not need his bitcoin cash, bitcoin is fine as it is.

[Zin-Zang]

I have no idea whether a lawsuit could be won against him, but I would certainly welcome it
How does he have the audacity to call that trash Bitcoin fork the real Bitcoin. Imagine that newbies send their freshly bought Bitcoins to a BCH address by mistake.

Could definitely see some of those mistakes happen due to newbies getting confused by false statements like that.

But what if Roger Ver wins the lawsuit, would that give him a precedent to counter sue and use the win as a legal advantage to force the exchanges to use the "BTC" ticker for Bitcoin Cash?

Plus would the win, if he wins, mean that "Bitcoin Cash" and "Bitcoin Core" are both "BTC" and both have the right to use the ticker?
 

Roger Ver will win the lawsuit and I will tell you why.

When you click on Buy Bitcoins on his site, it takes you to an EXCHANGE.
Once on the exchange the person picks the coin they want to buy.

It is on the exchange the actual purchase of coins take place not Roger Ver 's website.

If a person did not bother to read the symbol of the coin they were buying, that is literally that person's fault and no one else.
Plus there was nothing stopping them from immediately selling one or the other and then buying the one they wanted.

As far as the ticker goes, I doubt he could care less.  But his counter suit for deflation and lawyer fees will just go to his pocket so he can buy more bitcoin cash.

Odds are these people raising money to file a supposed lawsuit are probably scammers taking advantages of (mainline bitcore supporters) need to want to hate Roger Ver because he switched to supporting BCH.
They will probably just pocket the donations and make up some lame excuse why the lawsuit did not happen, but they will keep the bitcoins donated by the clueless.
Easy Money.

[cellard]

Please visit my thread here about Ver's BCash campaign in twitter:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3369820.msg35308628#msg35308628

Be sure to report the account in the basis of impersonation or anything else possibly related. We can take it down if we make enough force. It was already taken down before and recovered. If we take it down enough times they will not be able to recover it. Im tired of seeing noobs lossing money on this altcoin because they think they are buying Bitcoin. Some people I know already asked me why their bitcoins were only worth $1000 while mine are worth $9000. This is simply nuts.

[cellard]

_________________core
            \_________cash

or a
             _________core
_______/_________cash

but a
           __________core
______/
          \__________cash

it was a bilateral split not a unilateral split..

When will you stop this bullshit?


What actually happened:

_________________Bitcoin
            \_________Bcash


End of history. Which means, Roger Ver is promoting an altcoin as if it was Bitcoin, not cool. I have people asking me, "hey cellard, why is my Bitcoin worth $1000, and your Bitcoin is worth $9500". This is obviously nuts and helping no one. Stop the nonsense, BCash is an altcoin, you can circle jerk around this fact all day, you can call segwit an altcoin, at the end of the day, facts remain.

PS: I dont use segwit, so please don't tell me about how it is unsafe and whatnot.

[JollyGood]

I have no idea whether a lawsuit could be won against him, but I would certainly welcome it
How does he have the audacity to call that trash Bitcoin fork the real Bitcoin. Imagine that newbies send their freshly bought Bitcoins to a BCH address by mistake.

Could definitely see some of those mistakes happen due to newbies getting confused by false statements like that.

But what if Roger Ver wins the lawsuit, would that give him a precedent to counter sue and use the win as a legal advantage to force the exchanges to use the "BTC" ticker for Bitcoin Cash?

Plus would the win, if he wins, mean that "Bitcoin Cash" and "Bitcoin Core" are both "BTC" and both have the right to use the ticker?
 

In the unlikely event Ver wins, he has no basis to take ownership of bitcoin.com domain or BTC ticker.