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December 31, 2013, 11:22:15 AM
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maybe 25 random peers should be set in web.xml by default.

It would generate less complaints from users.

We should invent another way.

Another way is more complicated, they have to do more work to edit config files. users never like to edit anything, they want to download and do 2 clicks and make it work out of the box.
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December 31, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
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http://info.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.4.8.zip

sha256: ec7c30a100717e60d8abe50eedb23641952847d91ff90b9b05a74ff98d8a4cf2

From now on I will also be posting the latest version number and sha256 as the value of NRSversion alias on the blockchain: https://localhost:7875/nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=nrsversion

What is the function of sha256 ?

This is used to verify that the package you downloaded is really the one I created and has not been tampered with.
Run "sha256sum nxt-client-0.4.8.zip" from the command line on linux and it should print out the above result. No idea how to check sha256 sums on windows though.

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December 31, 2013, 11:29:38 AM
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maybe 25 random peers should be set in web.xml by default.

It would generate less complaints from users.

We should invent another way.

Another way is more complicated, they have to do more work to edit config files. users never like to edit anything, they want to download and do 2 clicks and make it work out of the box.
you're right. I'm not programmer to read web.xml code and think what to do http://clip2net.com/s/6v3Ro9. I know that i should replace blockchain and transaction.nxt and now edit web.xml. I want download and use immediately
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December 31, 2013, 11:35:51 AM
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How does transparent forging impact nodes running older versions of the software?

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December 31, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
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Zombies should be seen as peers running 0.4.8 but without the platform set. At least until the botmaster updates the software.
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December 31, 2013, 11:37:23 AM
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How does transparent forging impact nodes running older versions of the software?

After block 32000 these nodes will start rejecting new blocks.
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December 31, 2013, 11:39:41 AM
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How does transparent forging impact nodes running older versions of the software?

After block 32000 these nodes will start rejecting new blocks.

so 0.4.8 is mandatory, and should be done before 32000 block.
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December 31, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
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0.4.8 runs fine!  Smiley  ...let's hope we are still forging with them browsers closed...
You should be, I tested that.
I would be particularly interested in praise feedback about the memory usage of 0.4.8.

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December 31, 2013, 11:44:50 AM
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0.4.8 runs fine!  Smiley  ...let's hope we are still forging with them browsers closed...
You should be, I tested that.
I would be particularly interested in praise feedback about the memory usage of 0.4.8.

If it runs more than 12 hours without getting stuck, then you succeeded Cheesy let's wait till tomorrow, I'll test it on 512 Mb a lot Smiley
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December 31, 2013, 11:45:42 AM
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Will we ever get true distributed DNS instead of just alias system? (like namecoin)

what do u have in mind?

A project such as http://dot-bit.org/Main_Page

That way we can have for example .nxt as a TLD and it would work on all systems.

I didn't want to make any announcements until I had code to show, but I'm interested in the same goal.  I figure I should speak up now so there isn't a duplication of effort.

I've secured the domain dotNXT.org, and the alias nxt:dotNXT.

No other work has been completed yet as I'm currently in talks with my HR dept. at work to take 3 consecutive weeks of vacation to work on the project full time.  Still early yet to say, but I'm hopeful that block will begin the week of 1/6.

If anyone else has the same goal as to have a functioning a .NXT DNS, feel free to contact me in PM.


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December 31, 2013, 11:49:44 AM
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The 1st zombie is detected in manual mode:

http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getPeer&peer=125.39.9.139 --> {"platform":"?","application":"NRS","weight":0,"state":1,"announcedAddress":"","downloadedVolume":4009,"version":"0.4.8","uploadedVolume":225295}
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December 31, 2013, 11:50:42 AM
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VOTING

Sorry if this has gone off topic – but I had an idea and just had to write it down...

This is Voting Proposal that tries to balance stake with number of participants – its not 1 account 1 vote but hopefully the blend in here will make it difficult to screw the vote with either 1 account holding lots of NXT or lots of account holding little NXT.

1. A vote is proposed
  • default majority is 51%,
  • default participation is 51% of all 30 day active accounts with min 1 NXT BEFORE the vote was proposed.
  • default duration is 24hours and this is minimum.
2. The properties of the vote is that the proposer can propose are
  • the required majority level (weighted NXT)
  • participation level (max 100%, minimum 10% of active accounts)
  • the duration (hours, min 24)
2. The vote is submitted to the network.
4. The voters can weight their vote with their non-refundable NXT Fee min 1 NXT
5. The voters also confirm or reject the majority & participation proposals if they are different from the default, this component is NOT weighted by the NXT Fee and always requires 51% of the participating voters to agree.
6. The vote completes once the participation level is met and 51% of those voting have agreed with that participation level.
7. If the vote does not achieve  51% agreement of proposed participation and achieve that participation then the voting transaction fails and everything rolls back.
8. If the vote does achieve 51% agreement of proposed participation AND that participation is achieved then the vote is successful and the transaction completes.
9. People need to be able to query the vote, see the current stats and increase their FEE if they so wish.
10. The vote result is the number of VOTEs for/against weighted by their respective NXT Fees.
11. The Total Vote Fees are then divided equally between the forger of that block and the participating voters.

So you can buy votes but not by buying NXT and just holding it, you need to be active and put some of your stake behind your vote – if everyone feels equally strong and puts 100 NXT in their vote then you will get most of your stake back but if you want so badly to win you put 1,000,000 NXT in and everyone put in 1 NXT then you may well win but then your stake is divided up amongst the voters.

Yes some people will vote with 1 NXT hoping to get more than 1 NXT in Fees I guess and will try to use mutiple accounts but whatever system is implemented there will always be some who try to screw it.

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December 31, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
Last edit: December 31, 2013, 01:32:03 PM by EpicThomas
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NRS 0.4.8 is ready and can be downloaded from:

http://info.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.4.8.zip

sha256: ec7c30a100717e60d8abe50eedb23641952847d91ff90b9b05a74ff98d8a4cf2

From now on I will also be posting the latest version number and sha256 as the value of NRSversion alias on the blockchain: https://localhost:7875/nxt?requestType=getAliasURI&alias=nrsversion

Change log:

- Added Transparent Forging, will be turned on at block 32000.
- Memory leak fixed.
- Send money from the browser now also asks for the secret phrase.

There is only one new parameter in the web.xml, myPlatform. It is used to announce your platform - PC, Mac, Raspberry, NeXTstation, VAX, zombie...

The zip file does not contain blocks.nxt and transactions.nxt. Make sure you preserve your own *.nxt files before upgrading!


Anyone got a list of peers for this?
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December 31, 2013, 11:54:29 AM
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Anyone got a list of peers for this?

See I told ya, it's starting  Wink

Better upload 0.4.8 again with the long string of known peers before it's too late and the party is not ruined.
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December 31, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
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Anyone got a list of peers for this?

See I told ya, it's starting  Wink

Better upload 0.4.8 again with the long string of known peers before it's too late and the party is not ruined.
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December 31, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
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There r 2 peers in web.xml, that's enough to start with.

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December 31, 2013, 12:04:05 PM
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Anyone got a list of peers for this?

See I told ya, it's starting  Wink

Better upload 0.4.8 again with the long string of known peers before it's too late and the party is not ruined.
Dear,
Could anybody give me some advice ,where should I put these random nodes from http://nxtra.org/nodes/, in well know peers or well know peers2 or both in web.xml?
Thanks.

 
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December 31, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
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Dear,
Could anybody give me some advice ,where should I put these random nodes from http://nxtra.org/nodes/, in well know peers or well know peers2 or both in web.xml?
Thanks.

Former.
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December 31, 2013, 12:16:58 PM
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The Voting System is incremental to the function of the NXT Asset Exchange.  Are you sure you do not want a fully functional Asset Exchange?
M? Why do anyone inside Asset Exchange need a potential to freeze someone's acc? It'd simply disgracing risks in such business and'll turn into hell.
You are on the correct chain.
"Longest" is better word, I think Smiley
There's no correct or incorrect chains in decentralized network, only the longest one.
Most combined difficult one = correct (both good and possibly bad). Less = incorrect/orphaned.
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December 31, 2013, 12:19:24 PM
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VOTING

Sorry if this has gone off topic – but I had an idea and just had to write it down...

This is Voting Proposal that tries to balance stake with number of participants – its not 1 account 1 vote but hopefully the blend in here will make it difficult to screw the vote with either 1 account holding lots of NXT or lots of account holding little NXT.

1. A vote is proposed
  • default majority is 51%,
  • default participation is 51% of all 30 day active accounts with min 1 NXT BEFORE the vote was proposed.
  • default duration is 24hours and this is minimum.
2. The properties of the vote is that the proposer can propose are
  • the required majority level (weighted NXT)
  • participation level (max 100%, minimum 10% of active accounts)
  • the duration (hours, min 24)
2. The vote is submitted to the network.
4. The voters can weight their vote with their non-refundable NXT Fee min 1 NXT
5. The voters also confirm or reject the majority & participation proposals if they are different from the default, this component is NOT weighted by the NXT Fee and always requires 51% of the participating voters to agree.
6. The vote completes once the participation level is met and 51% of those voting have agreed with that participation level.
7. If the vote does not achieve  51% agreement of proposed participation and achieve that participation then the voting transaction fails and everything rolls back.
8. If the vote does achieve 51% agreement of proposed participation AND that participation is achieved then the vote is successful and the transaction completes.
9. People need to be able to query the vote, see the current stats and increase their FEE if they so wish.
10. The vote result is the number of VOTEs for/against weighted by their respective NXT Fees.
11. The Total Vote Fees are then divided equally between the forger of that block and the participating voters.

So you can buy votes but not by buying NXT and just holding it, you need to be active and put some of your stake behind your vote – if everyone feels equally strong and puts 100 NXT in their vote then you will get most of your stake back but if you want so badly to win you put 1,000,000 NXT in and everyone put in 1 NXT then you may well win but then your stake is divided up amongst the voters.

Yes some people will vote with 1 NXT hoping to get more than 1 NXT in Fees I guess and will try to use mutiple accounts but whatever system is implemented there will always be some who try to screw it.

this is interesting ....good job....Cfb could it this be implemented?

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