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July 02, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
Last edit: July 02, 2014, 06:30:17 PM by nicetry
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So you made an account just to spread fud and troll this thread.
Another hater , keep them coming..

Too bad there are more people joining doge reddit everyday than trolls on the www

Actually I started out just telling people on this thread, to those who have any little rationality left and to those would would listen, why doge was falling and would keep falling, then everyone got on my ass telling me i'm a troll just because I predicted doge would fall.  God forbid anyone to say anything bad about dogecoin.  I didn't know this was a fascist thread.  It's not a troll if i have a good reasoning behind why doge would be falling.  And I have been right.

If you have something to disprove my reasons, then have a good counter argument.  All i'm seeing on this thread is some blind prediction that dogecoin will rebound without any logical reasoning or some serious ridiculous self-denials.  

Ridiculous stuff I have heard from people on this forum about why doge will rise/or stop falling:

lynn: Japan has a debt of 1000 Trillion yen! (Or 1 quadrillion.) When we put it in perspective vs. fiat, there really isn't that many dogecoins  (typical lynn talking about stuff he has no idea about.  See how I made fun of his post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7201666#msg7201666)

testcoin:  Doge price is more stable now as compared to a few days ago. Price actually moves up a little bit (in USD value) from the bottom. Don't forget Bitcoin price keeps rising these days (another dumb post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7623777#msg7623777)

manfred: PoW is backed by energy. There is no better backing than energy because everyone needs it, wants it and i will never have any problem selling it.  (most ridiculous thing I have ever heard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7624335#msg7624335)

manfred: +1 bargain of the year.  be greedy when others are fearful.  (how is that greed treating you?  June 26th, price was at 52.  how much money you made so far?  Right now doge at 37)

doge_speculator:  When you said that doge/usd is a "mature market" with "small spreads" you kinda gave yourself away as not knowing what the fuck you're talking about especially in regards to trading and markets....It's in its infancy. As far as small spreads go... clearly you've never traded forex. the spread on doge is regularly 1500+ basis points on the highest volume exchanges. that's fucking enormous kid. (ok see how I shredded his post.  Last post he ever made, grabbed his tail and ran.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7160247#msg7160247)

bluepixie: Hope you guys got some doge under 60, we will never see that again. This is going to be GREAT!!! (Tony the tiger says it's going to be GRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEATTTTTT! And by the way, this was the last post Tony has posted for dogecoin, apparently he felt it was so GREAT, he bought silkcoins instead of dogecoins.  That was his last post at dogecoin thread, by the way, rofl. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7116984#msg7116984)

lynn: And if the people who only care about the money get the upper end, then I prefer to have an honourable defeat than to make money with them.  (sorry Lynn you forgetting who is the enemy here, i'm not the one making doge fall.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7114608#msg7114608)

lynn: Sceptics like you make me even more motivated to invest in doge; just to have the pleasure of proving you wrong (looks like that pleasure is all mine.  And it's spelled "Skeptics", genius.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7101807#msg7101807)

lynn: Why are you even posting here? To convince us doge is worth nothing, so you can buy cheaper? That won't work. (yea right i'm going to buy more doge)

lynn: A crash that has been going on for less than two weeks is not a reason to affirm that dogecoin is dying; it's just the normal fluctuations of a commodity with a small market cap.  (this was posted when doge was in the 70s)

lynn: The community I mentionned, is the one that managed to build a well in Africa, who sponsored a nascar driver and votes for him 3 million times.  (ok but how does this support doge from falling, awareness isn't same thing as demand.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7101474#msg7101474)

mashac:  Lol @ this dumb troll, who is trying very very hard to create a panic dump and failing miserably.... (I guess either I was right all along or my devious plan to create the panic dump succeeded?Huh  this was posted on June 7th, and now even he says "Probable 'mayday' for Dogecoin...." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.msg7474725#msg7474725 LOL)

And please, feel free to look at all my past posts.  There are some hilarious ones I'm too lazy to go back to find all.  

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July 02, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
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 I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.
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July 02, 2014, 05:49:35 PM
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I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.


That's what I have been saying all along, but our diehard doge supporters here believe the coin can rebound without any kind of intervention.  Sorry diehard shibes, you need the federal reserve to step in and start some serious quantitative easing, or convince your dear leader dev to change it to POS
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July 02, 2014, 06:20:59 PM
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Doge back to 1 satoshi Huh

OMG

 Cry Cry Cry Cry
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July 02, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
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I Have a message in to the Dev. I would love to know more about this coin.

This Coin is HOLD a rating.
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July 02, 2014, 07:17:34 PM
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I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.


Really , how much do you know about PoS and it's vulnerability?
And what about the 51% attack against doge? Do you know how much it will cost?

It will be far cheaper to attack a full PoS coin.

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July 02, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
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I Have a message in to the Dev. I would love to know more about this coin.

This Coin is HOLD a rating.
http://cryptoanalytics.trade/



The one men rating show?

There is only one arictle with a lot of blah blah blah in it.....

And price analysis  without a time stamp/window...

Very funny!

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July 02, 2014, 07:25:27 PM
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It will be far cheaper to attack a full PoS coin.

Really? What do you think would happen to the price of the coin when someone starts actively buying at market to gain a 51% share? Please do more calculations before you come up with 'far cheaper'. By my calculations it will be 2-3 orders of magnitude more expensive than doing a 51% attack on a PoW coin.
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July 02, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
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VOTE FOR DOGECOIN
please donate for dev.
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July 02, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
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Counterparty with Dogecoin

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterpartyd/commits/dogepartyd

The power of Counterparty with Dogecoin speed and a great community to top it off. The dream becomes reality!

Looking forward for the burn period announcement! To the moon guys!!! Time to buy!!

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July 03, 2014, 05:01:31 AM
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Counterparty with Dogecoin

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterpartyd/commits/dogepartyd

The power of Counterparty with Dogecoin speed and a great community to top it off. The dream becomes reality!

Looking forward for the burn period announcement! To the moon guys!!! Time to buy!!



That doggie is on fire!
What's he been eating?  Cheesy


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I just looked at the counterparty website, and would like to know more examples of what can be done with this:
Is it primarily for betting and unregulated "stocks"/assets?

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July 03, 2014, 06:33:37 AM
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What I still do not get in respect of initiatives like Counterparty.co and Reggie's Ultracoin is how counter party risk is managed. Sure, it is easy to lock in an electronic asset like BTC or a bunch of Doves, but how does software ensure that a bet in dollars or PM will actually be honoured by your digital counter party?

Reggie does not explain this nor the Counterparty.co website.

If they have solved this problem, they are sitting on pure platinum.

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July 03, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
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I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.


Really , how much do you know about PoS and it's vulnerability?
And what about the 51% attack against doge? Do you know how much it will cost?

It will be far cheaper to attack a full PoS coin.

 PoW is more easily to attack because you don't even need to buy the hardware to make the 51% attack, you just can rent it for 1 day make the 51% attack and be gone.

 But if you try to buy 51% of the coins to make 51% attack on PoS... that is just insane... it is much harder to do and you can't do it fast.

 Look on coinmarketcap the top 10 coins and tell me how many of them are pure PoW?!

 Dogecoin is more flexible than the old behemoths (Litecoin and Bitcoin), so the transition to PoS would be much more easier.

 

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July 03, 2014, 08:08:59 AM
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I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.


Really , how much do you know about PoS and it's vulnerability?
And what about the 51% attack against doge? Do you know how much it will cost?

It will be far cheaper to attack a full PoS coin.

 PoW is more easily to attack because you don't even need to buy the hardware to make the 51% attack, you just can rent it for 1 day make the 51% attack and be gone.

 But if you try to buy 51% of the coins to make 51% attack on PoS... that is just insane... it is much harder to do and you can't do it fast.

 Look on coinmarketcap the top 10 coins and tell me how many of them are pure PoW?!

 Dogecoin is more flexible than the old behemoths (Litecoin and Bitcoin), so the transition to PoS would be much more easier.

 

This is wrong.

Don't talk about things you have no idea how it works.

PoW is considered safer than PoS - if you google for it you will find out why.
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July 03, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
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PoW is considered safer than PoS - if you google for it you will find out why.

You can google a lot of nonsense, that doesn't prove anything Smiley

There is a lot of sensible analysis too, for example, google brings this http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/06/16/how-a-mining-monopoly-can-attack-bitcoin/
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July 03, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
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I think Dogecoin should go PoS... the sooner the better. This is to protect it's investors. Because if the price is continuing to go down, in not so distant future it would be trivial to make 51% attack.


Really , how much do you know about PoS and it's vulnerability?
And what about the 51% attack against doge? Do you know how much it will cost?

It will be far cheaper to attack a full PoS coin.

 PoW is more easily to attack because you don't even need to buy the hardware to make the 51% attack, you just can rent it for 1 day make the 51% attack and be gone.

 But if you try to buy 51% of the coins to make 51% attack on PoS... that is just insane... it is much harder to do and you can't do it fast.

 Look on coinmarketcap the top 10 coins and tell me how many of them are pure PoW?!

 Dogecoin is more flexible than the old behemoths (Litecoin and Bitcoin), so the transition to PoS would be much more easier.

 

This is wrong.

Don't talk about things you have no idea how it works.

PoW is considered safer than PoS - if you google for it you will find out why.

 "Google it" is not an answer nor argument.

 Also PoW is not considered safer, because it is not safer. With PoW you can have anybody make an attack... but with PoS he needs to have a stake.

 Many alt coins that were victim to 51% PoW attack have become PoS. Nobody ever have gone from PoS to PoW.

 Can you show me just one coin that have gone from PoS to PoW?!  You can't because there are none.

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July 03, 2014, 09:19:02 AM
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Doge back to 1 satoshi Huh

Yes, because meme-coin is fail a priori.
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July 03, 2014, 09:33:13 AM
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 Everybody assumes that an PoW attacker should invest in hardware before the attack... no he should not. He would just use his Litecoin ASICs for 1 day and 1 attack on Doge. This is all it gets... it can happen tomorrow virtually at no cost for the attacker.

 Also he can attack as long as he wants... and we can't do anything. We can reverse the blockchain but he can attack again and again.

 Should we be forced by an attacker to go PoS?!

We should go PoS in a controlled way. That would be best for all, miners and investors.
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July 03, 2014, 02:47:13 PM
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I still think you guys are way too worried about attack on this coin than what truly is making this coin going to the dumpsters.  Why do you think BTC rises even when ghash reached 51%+?  I don't think people care about a 51% attack until it HAS happened.  That's the typical investor mentality -- it's not a problem until the problem has happened.  Worry about the demand/supply of dogecoin, that's what's making it go down.
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July 03, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
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The dogecoin systerm is DRYING UP, we need change!---Why Dogecoin's inflation need to be lower than USD's and why PoS is cheaper for running Dogecoin systerm.

1. Dogecoin is like a pool. When you buy something use dogecoin,  you are pumping water out from the pool. Because these dogecoin will be sold for USD. If no new water(USD) come in, the pool will be smaller and smaller till dry up. You use more dogecoin to buy things, the pool is drying up faster. We need new water(USD) in.  How? Why people hold dogecoin but not USD? If you put USD in bank,you get interest.  Dogecoin must be better then USD. That means Dogecoin's inflation must be lower than USD. Else people will sold dogecoin for USD of course if USD is better. Then the pool will be dry up soon! (People hold BTC,because they "think" BTC's inflation is lower than USD. )
 
2. Dogecoin is a systerm to transfer money. It should be cheaper than bank systerm. But Every year 5 Billion dogecoin is paid to run Dogecoin systerm( 7 months later).  It is very expansive! Because most of the 5B Dogecoin will be exchanged to USD to pay the power company and depreciation of mining machine!  If it is so expansive, why we don't use bank directly?  It need and must be changed. Change POW to PoS or something better. Don't wast money on electricity. It means nothing! Let's get a cheaper method to support the Dogecoin systerm. And make some interest for Dogecoin holder!

So my opinion is 1, lower Dogecoin's inflation than USD's. 2 Change to PoS to lower the cost to running the systerm and make some intertest for holder.  Else people will hold USD but not Dogecoin, the systerm will be die.   

Of course, you can't use PoS at the beginning, because no one will accept it. But dogecoin can use PoS now, not every coin have this opportunity. Let's make history and make dogecoin a real curreny.

I am a miner too. I know miner will be Centered to the lowest electricity fee place finally. Because it happens in China now. Then most cost will be the electricity fee. And it is not decentration at last. It will be centred to the Lowest cost miner. It is very dangerous. It is not profect now.

Sorry for my poor English.
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