Issue with Minerjones and anonymousminer for an escrow.

[Kraven]

Well I’m only putting this here because I’m curious. A few days ago- a user (Tekno2020 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356468 )
And I decided to do a trade with escrow for my Bitmain coupons. All went well until Tekno2020 sent the bitcoins to escrow. We both have seen minerjones online each and every day. We thought maybe he was sleep but I’m starting to think otherwise. But just now.. a user “anonymousminer” just sent us a message saying this :

Hello members,

Minerjones has asked me to reach out to both of you as he had a real life emergency and will be back Monday to release funds.  The BTC has confirmed and the coupons can be traded.  

-AM

Then when I tell him that I don’t trust it he says this:

It is 100% legit and I understand your hesitation on here.  MJ is like a brother, which is why I know this information and he asked me to pass it along.  Look at my first trust entry..... it should validate what I'm saying.

-AM

I’m beyond worried for both of us.

[mdayonliner]

I’m beyond worried for both of us.

May be he is telling the truth judging by the feedback left for him from minerjones (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1668017)

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Of course you have the right to investigate more but if I was you then I would not hesitated. Hope this helps 

[Kraven]

I’m beyond worried for both of us.

May be he is telling the truth judging by the feedback left for him from minerjones (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1668017)

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Of course you have the right to investigate more but if I was you then I would not hesitated. Hope this helps 

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

[ibminer]

If it were me, I would have to wait. I'd be concerned the anonymousminer account may have changed hands.
What address were funds sent to by Tekno2020?

He seems to be using the same address but there is an odd change in writing style on anonymousminer images recently... from March:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3082512.msg31792680#msg31792680
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3084424.msg31814648#msg31814648

and then in May, a new style 7 & 8 recently, as well as the "th" being included:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3619222.msg36589591#msg36589591
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3631376.msg36630837#msg36630837

Personally, this would be enough to make me nervous, given the circumstances.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

Yep, that's suspicious and I've seen this before along with the stalling tactic of having a "friend" contact one of the parties to the deal.  A while back gameristo got scammed for some PP funds, and this is exactly what happened.  I'm hoping for your sake that this doesn't turn out to be a scam, but I'd be more than a little suspicious if it was me.

How much was this deal for, anyway?

$2800

Yikes.

$2800 is exit scam worthy- which is why I’m worried.

I agree--it's "worth" ruining a trusted account for if one was dishonest and inclined to do it.  Again, I do hope for your sake this isn't the case.  It's just awful when all the senior members harp on using escrow to avoid scams, and then the escrow ends up pulling an exit scam.

[Kraven]

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

Yep, that's suspicious and I've seen this before along with the stalling tactic of having a "friend" contact one of the parties to the deal.  A while back gameristo got scammed for some PP funds, and this is exactly what happened.  I'm hoping for your sake that this doesn't turn out to be a scam, but I'd be more than a little suspicious if it was me.

How much was this deal for, anyway?

$2800

[Kraven]

$2800 is exit scam worthy- which is why I’m worried.

[ibminer]

I need to see a transaction from Tekno2020 showing he sent funds to minerjones, otherwise it didn't happen.

According to their profile, Tekno2020 uses 31pDmi6PDdHFUT51MTzJNYacxYMZp2bi58
I don't see any transactions recently showing funds going to minerjones and am not seeing a transaction worth near $2800.

[Kraven]

I need to see a transaction from Tekno2020 showing he sent funds to minerjones, otherwise it didn't happen.

According to their profile, Tekno2020 uses 31pDmi6PDdHFUT51MTzJNYacxYMZp2bi58
I don't see any transactions recently showing funds going to minerjones and am not seeing a transaction worth near $2800.

Hello minerjones,

Contacting you to see if you are available to escrow a Bitmain coupon deal.

Details are as follows:

20 x $420 Bitmain coupons (6.30.18 expiration) at $140usd each for a total of $2800usd.

Buyer is:  Tekno2020
Seller is:  Kraven
Escrow is: minerjones

Payment in btc at the prevailing Coinbase rate.  $2800usd ~ 0.3013 btc  at the moment

Kraven's btc seller address is:  XXXXXXXXXXXto be provided by sellerXXXXXXXXXXXX

Tekno2020's Donation ID:  mhotmail.com

Tekno2020's BTC Refund address: 31pDmi6PDdHFUT51MTzJNYacxYMZp2bi58
 

Please let me know if you are available to escrow this deal.
Thank you,
Tekno2020

Hello-
Happy to escrow.
Please send 0.304313BTC to 3NmFR62C6vcDkc7H4zkyXxjF1b8ZCa2Y9q
Once sent and confirmed, please reply with txid of payment
At this point, item can be transferred/shipped as agreed.
After buyer receives item in good standing and reports back here, I can release escrow funds to seller's given payment address.
Let me know if any questions.

Thanks,
minerjones

Code:

Message
may 9 2018 minerjones escrow between Kraven and Tekno2020 for amount of 0.3013 bitcoin plus fee using address 3NmFR62C6vcDkc7H4zkyXxjF1b8ZCa2Y9q for 20 x $420 Bitmain coupons

Address 
3NmFR62C6vcDkc7H4zkyXxjF1b8ZCa2Y9q

Signature
JFKoXeF6/7/G6JLlGIgggO5HrjEsnq2o8jw55BJUOiqQcWSgQq/5RztvFrD+TnVFSMWo0q3ofo60JR7HXQ4x97M=

Hello All,
Minerjone has agreed to escrow the deal.  I have sent a test deposit to Minerjones escrow address. Once Minerjones confirms receipt, I will send the balance.

Kraven, please provide your BTC wallet address. You will donate the Bitmain coupons to my ID once minerjones instructs you to, ie. confirms receipt of all funds.

Thanks
Tekno

[Kraven]

This is all fishy

[ibminer]

Did you actually get a message directly from minerjones or did you get a quoted piece of text from Tekno2020 saying minerjones agreed?

[Kraven]

Did you actually get a message directly from minerjones or did you get a quoted piece of text from Tekno2020 saying minerjones agreed?

the first message I was left out of. I told them that too. Then minerjones sent a message to me on what was supposedly said.

[Tekno2020]

I need to see a transaction from Tekno2020 showing he sent funds to minerjones, otherwise it didn't happen.

According to their profile, Tekno2020 uses 31pDmi6PDdHFUT51MTzJNYacxYMZp2bi58
I don't see any transactions recently showing funds going to minerjones and am not seeing a transaction worth near $2800.

Funds were definitely deposited on the escrow address that minerjones gave me.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/238092dc558bb6931fc31aad25284e5a4601979349facbb9e560f4ce650cd77a/

It did happen.

minerjones replied pretty quick to pms before the deal,,,, then once we were in the deal he ghosted.  He has been incommunicado for the last day and a half.  Then we both got the message above from 'anonymousminer' that minerjones has had an emergency? 

I mean wtf.

[Tekno2020]

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

Yep, that's suspicious and I've seen this before along with the stalling tactic of having a "friend" contact one of the parties to the deal.  A while back gameristo got scammed for some PP funds, and this is exactly what happened.  I'm hoping for your sake that this doesn't turn out to be a scam, but I'd be more than a little suspicious if it was me.

How much was this deal for, anyway?

$2800

Yikes.

$2800 is exit scam worthy- which is why I’m worried.

I agree--it's "worth" ruining a trusted account for if one was dishonest and inclined to do it.  Again, I do hope for your sake this isn't the case.  It's just awful when all the senior members harp on using escrow to avoid scams, and then the escrow ends up pulling an exit scam.

minerjones account has been around since 2014,,,, are people that hungry around here to forfeit a Top 3 escrow position around here for some low level scam.

[Kraven]

only thing is that minerjones was online for all of this escrow then he’s on and off. He needs to confirm this.

Yep, that's suspicious and I've seen this before along with the stalling tactic of having a "friend" contact one of the parties to the deal.  A while back gameristo got scammed for some PP funds, and this is exactly what happened.  I'm hoping for your sake that this doesn't turn out to be a scam, but I'd be more than a little suspicious if it was me.

How much was this deal for, anyway?

$2800

Yikes.

$2800 is exit scam worthy- which is why I’m worried.

I agree--it's "worth" ruining a trusted account for if one was dishonest and inclined to do it.  Again, I do hope for your sake this isn't the case.  It's just awful when all the senior members harp on using escrow to avoid scams, and then the escrow ends up pulling an exit scam.

minerjones account has been around since 2014,,,, are people that hungry around here to forfeit a Top 3 escrow position around here for some low level scam.

People have left over $2 so yeah that’s why I’m skeptical.

[Tekno2020]

Did you actually get a message directly from minerjones or did you get a quoted piece of text from Tekno2020 saying minerjones agreed?

We both got a message from minerjones confirming that he will escrow the deal.

Also dude, ibminer,  you need to get clear,,,, I am the buyer and the one with 2800usd at risk here.  If anyone is being scammed at the moment, it's me! Hopefully no one is being scammed and minerjones has actually had an emergency!!!

 Just because Kraven has opened up a thread does not mean he is being scammed.  I could have just as easily posted, but thought it was a bit premature to post publicly and bring this to the community.

 Please read.

Payment was made.

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/238092dc558bb6931fc31aad25284e5a4601979349facbb9e560f4ce650cd77a/

There has not been any accusation against me, ibminer, so remove your red stripe.   Why don't you go and tag minerjones account?! 

[mikeywith]

I do not personally know Tekno2020 but i have transacted a good amount of  money with him. he delivered what he promised in time.

I do not think he should be getting a negative review on his wall.

[yahoo62278]

I have sent MJ a message on Telegram. He might be at work currently so hopefully he can respond here within a few hours.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I do not think he should be getting a negative review on his wall.

Eh, yeah.  I'm not sure why he got a negative trust from ibminer, either.  I read this thread from the beginning, and if anyone is deserving--at least temporarily--of a neg, it's minerjones.  Props to Yahoo62278 for trying to contact him, and let's hope this doesn't turn out ugly.

[Lesbian Cow]

Hey fellas,

I have reached out to minerjones on another channel.  I am 99.9999% confident nothing to worry about.

1.  He is traveling, i know this for a fact

2.  He and anonymousminer know each other in real life for decades

3.  He has way more of my monies than the 2800 usd being discussed and i have no concern.

Stand by please.....