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[Lodestar]

Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

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[Southpaw0]

Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

I bet on a total for this game and I am also waiting for it to be graded.

[Lodestar]

I deposited a few cents to test and they refunded it with the reason being a technical issue.

[kilter71]

Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

I bet on a total for this game and I am also waiting for it to be graded.

Me too, waiting for grading. Last bet was slow graded too today

[DirectBet]

Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

Due to an outage by our data providers, we were unable to accept bets on this game during the final minutes of the game, and bets did not settle automatically within minutes of the game completion as they normally do.

All bets have now been settled and paid.

[DirectBet]

Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.

Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.
We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.
This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.

But this is unfair. It is too easy made 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 than 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 3,1 for same loyality point.
Why i must make 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 if this is not my bets stratagy? But i want loyality point..... Conditions should be equal for all users.....For example some guy can easy made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month, because he bet on favorite. But i cant made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month because i bet on underdogs and have more risk. We are not on an equal footing with your rules. His stratagy is easier to get points. I hope you understand me.

I understand your point.

However, note that our VIP Rewards Program is already the most rewarding in the industry. We're basically giving to our most frequent bettors up to 1% of their bets stake back.

What that means is that we can't offer more. That's already the maximum. So if we want to apply your suggestion, we would have to give less rewards to those who bet on the favorite and the exact same rewards to those who bet on the underdogs. It wouldn't make any difference for you. You will still earn the same, but it will negatively affect those who bet on the favorites, they will get less.

The bottom line is that you're already receiving the maximum reward we can give so changing the terms will not earn you extra rewards.

[ts11111]

Now you are publishing the secret hash before bets are received. Good. No one has taken advantage of this, because as stated before, it is impossible to manipulate the transaction ID generated by the blockchain.

So I must ask, why is the secret hash just now being revealed before the bet is received? Why hasn't this been the case all along?

[DirectBet]

Now you are publishing the secret hash before bets are received. Good. No one has taken advantage of this, because as stated before, it is impossible to manipulate the transaction ID generated by the blockchain.

So I must ask, why is the secret hash just now being revealed before the bet is received? Why hasn't this been the case all along?

We always presented to the players the secret hashed before the roll of the dice, as part of the provably fair verification.

This has been the case all along since the first day Direct Dice was offered.

Note that we are not showing the secret but rather the hashed secret. I think you're confusing between the two.

We can not reveal the secret before the dice is rolled because this will allow you to know in advance the outcome of the roll as it is possible to manipulate the transaction ID. Therefore, we scramble the secret in a special technique called hashing using SHA256 cryptographic algorithm and present the hashed secret in the Bet Status page. The only way to reproduce the hashed secret is by hashing the original secret. Later on, after the game is over, you can reveal the original secret used, and you will be able to hash it yourself and verify that the result is identical to the hashed secret presented to you before the roll of the dice. This will prove that we did indeed used the secret that was designated to your bet.

Please refer to http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml#Dice for more details and let me know if you have any more questions.

[ts11111]

It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

[kilter71]

Been using your site and like it a lot. Do you offer college basketball?  I couldn't find tomorrow's games. Thanks.

[DirectBet]

It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

Perhaps you can tell us how ?

[DirectBet]

Been using your site and like it a lot. Do you offer college basketball?  I couldn't find tomorrow's games. Thanks.

Yes we do. Please check back later closer to the events start time.

[SectorZero]

Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.

Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.
We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.
This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.

But this is unfair. It is too easy made 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 than 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 3,1 for same loyality point.
Why i must make 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 if this is not my bets stratagy? But i want loyality point..... Conditions should be equal for all users.....For example some guy can easy made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month, because he bet on favorite. But i cant made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month because i bet on underdogs and have more risk. We are not on an equal footing with your rules. His stratagy is easier to get points. I hope you understand me.

I understand your point.
However, note that our VIP Rewards Program is already the most rewarding in the industry. We're basically giving to our most frequent bettors up to 1% of their bets stake back.
What that means is that we can't offer more. That's already the maximum. So if we want to apply your suggestion, we would have to give less rewards to those who bet on the favorite and the exact same rewards to those who bet on the underdogs. It wouldn't make any difference for you. You will still earn the same, but it will negatively affect those who bet on the favorites, they will get less.
The bottom line is that you're already receiving the maximum reward we can give so changing the terms will not earn you extra rewards.

Its unfair. You dont understand me.  And these system of reward is not interesting for people who bets on underdog. They never return 1% of their bets stake back with that rules, as you think. Dont reduce anything, dont increase anything. But make an equitable redistribution of reward! To do this, the bet should be multiplied by the coefficient. Now we have 1 point for each 0,1 LTC. We must have, for example,  1 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains of the bet.  I'm not saying that this should be so. But there must be changes. Mb not 1 point, mb 0,5 point, but for potential gains of the bet.
I thought your site is good designed. But your rule is unfair. Bwin has such loyality programm for sports bet as you. They do not award points for the low rates, and calculate reward point with the potential gain rather than the entire bet! If the rules of loyality programm would not changed you lost a customer in my face and other people who play on underdogers...

[ts11111]

It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

Perhaps you can tell us how ?

First off, you created it (or contracted someone to create it for you).

Publish the algorithm.

[WhatsBitcoin]

Your entire betting network is down. Directdice, live betting, pre-game betting, etc...

[DirectBet]

Your entire betting network is down. Directdice, live betting, pre-game betting, etc...

Betting was suspended for a few minutes.

All bets are back up now.

[DirectBet]

It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

Perhaps you can tell us how ?

First off, you created it (or contracted someone to create it for you).

Publish the algorithm.

It's published here : http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml#Dice

Everything you need in order to verify that Direct Dice is provably fair is in the link above.

We describe the exact algorithm of how the dice is rolled, so you can run it yourself and verify.

It's not possible for us to influence the roll of the dice. If you disagree please show us how.

[DirectBet]

Its unfair. You dont understand me.  And these system of reward is not interesting for people who bets on underdog. They never return 1% of their bets stake back with that rules, as you think.

I'm sorry but I don't understand. Why do you not find our VIP Rewards Program appealing ?

Say for example that you bet a total of 100 BTC. You get 0.8 BTC back through our VIP Rewards program.

To the best of our knowledge no other book gives you back that much. Where do you find a better deal ?

What I was trying to explain in my previous post is that no matter how we change the loyalty points distribution, you will still not be able to get more than 0.8 BTC back for betting a total of 100 BTC as in the example above, so it will not make any difference. You are already getting the maximum possible.

[SectorZero]

Its unfair. You dont understand me.  And these system of reward is not interesting for people who bets on underdog. They never return 1% of their bets stake back with that rules, as you think.

I'm sorry but I don't understand. Why do you not find our VIP Rewards Program appealing ?
Say for example that you bet a total of 100 BTC. You get 0.8 BTC back through our VIP Rewards program.
To the best of our knowledge no other book gives you back that much. Where do you find a better deal ?
What I was trying to explain in my previous post is that no matter how we change the loyalty points distribution, you will still not be able to get more than 0.8 BTC back for betting a total of 100 BTC as in the example above, so it will not make any difference. You are already getting the maximum possible.

Reward is not smooth for everyone.  Someone can the best chance to score more points (who play with favorite and can make many many many bets....) Your system is good for the casino, but not for sports betting, where everything depends on the coefficients.
Now we have 1 point for each 0,1 LTC of the bet. We must have, for example,  1 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains of the bet.  I'm not saying that this should be so. But there must be changes. Mb not 1 point, mb 0,5 point or 0,1, but ONLY for potential gains of the bet.
FOR EXAMPLE:
Player 1 make bet for 100 LTC on event with rate 1.7. He has potential gains 170 LTC. His point reward is (170/0,1)*0,5 = 850 points (if we have 0,5 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains).
Player 2 make bet for 100 LTC on event with rate 3.7. He has potential gains 370 LTC. His point reward is (370/0,1)*0,5 = 1850 points (if we have 0,5 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains).
Player 3 make bet for 100 LTC on event with rate 1.1. He has potential gains 110 LTC. His point reward is (110/0,1)*0,5 = 550 points (if we have 0,5 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains).
IT WOULD BE FAIR!
I dont need more reward. I only need quitable redistribution of reward between all players with different betting strategy!
Bwin has such loyality programm for sports bet as you have. But they do not award points for the low rates (1,01-1,1), and calculate reward point with the potential gain rather than the entire bet!

[DirectBet]

I dont need more reward. I only need quitable redistribution of reward between all players with different betting strategy!

With your suggestion you will still earn the same rewards as you do now (because it's the maximum we can give back), but others who bet on the favorite will get less rewards.

Is that what you suggest ? It's actually better for us, we will have to pay less rewards, but those who usually bet on the favorites will not like it, why reduce their rewards ?

Bwin has such loyality programm for sports bet as you have. But they do not award points for the low rates (1,01-1,1), and calculate reward point with the potential gain rather than the entire bet!

I couldn't find any information on their sports betting loyalty program. Where did you find it ?

I want to show you that our VIP Rewards Program is better for you.