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July 06, 2016, 11:37:59 AM |
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I was planning to place my Euro 2016 bets on Directbet but going through this thread has send a chilling effect on my spinal cord. Is it safe to bet with directbet using bitcoins? Anyone who has a success story with them can enlighten me on this
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July 06, 2016, 12:17:57 PM |
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Is it safe to bet with directbet using bitcoins?
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July 06, 2016, 02:36:55 PM |
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I was planning to place my Euro 2016 bets on Directbet but going through this thread has send a chilling effect on my spinal cord. Is it safe to bet with directbet using bitcoins? Anyone who has a success story with them can enlighten me on this
Nearly $5000 of Ethereum paid out in one bet. Ive not been betting with them long but I'm happy - I've won a few 4 figure bets and they paid out okay. I've opened a ticket with a bet query as I didn't understand the bet terms... they replied back speedily and I passed on the bet once i knew what it actually was. Couple of other support tickets because of my own error (i put a space after the payout address so it didn't go automatically). Again no problems, sorted and paid out. I wouldn't place any bets on an anonymous bookmakers that would take months to win... but relatively little risk in placing bets on sporting events taking place that way. Its not going to make sense for them to rip you for a few thousand $ is it. The only people I can see complaining are accounts with a stink of scamming and double spending. Has there been a single instance of someone saying there is something dodgy going on, that appears to be completely clean themselves? I don't see any. They seem like an honest book to me, and I am putting my money where my mouth is. https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x79b8292b62068c33c78648778bda19a16f508a3f
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July 06, 2016, 04:08:24 PM |
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I'm not following. Spain lost that game 0-2. What's the complaint? This is how I understand it..... directbet.eu rejected a bet because of low fees, then confisticated the wager instead of refunding it. Bet details: https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1J48n6KMDKutNcb68ywoHgfrZVkD28VrfkThey are claiming ragernation is responsible for a successful double spend bet on their platform. Bet details; https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JtH9TefRKwB9W71qeD2fAGGCp27PtWnnnSo they are keeping the wager from the rejected bet as part payment for the double-spend bet. ragernation is denying any knowledge of the double-spend bet. And is demanding a refund from directbet.eu and rightly so, if he/she has nothing to do with the double spend bet in question. directbet.eu are also claiming that ragernation and hungerstyle are one and the same. An accusation ragernation vehemently denies, albeit incoherently. If directbet.eu has sufficient proof that hungerstyle and ragernation is the same person, and is responsible for the double-spend. Then they are within their rights to keep the funds. Otherwise they should refund ragernation immediately. I hate to say I told you so directbet.eu, but this will keep happening until you fix your exploitable book. Ok so here's the confusing part. Both of those bets lost. Just as DirectBet wasn't in the right for keeping someone's bet when it won, the user isn't in the right for trying to get a refund on a lost bet.
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July 06, 2016, 04:32:14 PM Last edit: July 06, 2016, 04:42:49 PM by robinH |
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There was no bet, as it was rejected by directbet.eu. The result is inconsequential. Because directbet.eu wouldn't have made a payout even if it won.
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July 06, 2016, 07:40:48 PM |
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There was no bet, as it was rejected by directbet.eu. The result is inconsequential. Because directbet.eu wouldn't have made a payout even if it won.
Actually, the result is consequential. Since the bet lost, he has no reason to request a refund. Because the bet lost. Had the bet won, he would (likely) be correct in demanding the bet+profit. Here's an example. You and I make a friendly $20 wager on a game. I'm pretty sure that if you lose you aren't going to pay me, so I steal $20 from your wallet just in case. If you lose the bet, you can't ask for your money back because you were planning on scumming me. Honor among thieves and all that. Although obviously everyone agrees that DB needs to stop allowing these zero confirm bets. It's only going to be bad for them, never good.
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July 06, 2016, 07:54:09 PM Last edit: July 07, 2016, 03:11:46 AM by rangernation |
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There was no bet, as it was rejected by directbet.eu. The result is inconsequential. Because directbet.eu wouldn't have made a payout even if it won.
Actually, the result is consequential. Since the bet lost, he has no reason to request a refund. Because the bet lost. Had the bet won, he would (likely) be correct in demanding the bet+profit. Here's an example. You and I make a friendly $20 wager on a game. I'm pretty sure that if you lose you aren't going to pay me, so I steal $20 from your wallet just in case. If you lose the bet, you can't ask for your money back because you were planning on scumming me. Honor among thieves and all that. Although obviously everyone agrees that DB needs to stop allowing these zero confirm bets. It's only going to be bad for them, never good. @twitchy, I was just saying ive posted here numerous times waiting for directbet to see the bump to return. They literally haven't responded to a single email, pm, or forum post. Crazy. I dont think you know how it works or what happened. Lol. I have posted here numerous times and they just post spam .000001 btc promos. I sent btc, and their page said bet rejected and coin would be returned after 1 confirmation. So the bet wasn't Live. Or thats how I interpretted their site. Now hundreds of confimrations later they didnt return or message. I have no idea what their deal is, but ignoring players and holding their coin for long periods of time is not the key to success
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July 07, 2016, 04:10:56 PM |
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We added a few bets on the World Series of Poker : WSOP 2016 Betting Page
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July 07, 2016, 05:48:12 PM |
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How about you send back my coin that you have held for a week now instead of burry it with this trash?
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July 07, 2016, 06:10:45 PM |
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There was no bet, as it was rejected by directbet.eu. The result is inconsequential. Because directbet.eu wouldn't have made a payout even if it won.
Actually, the result is consequential. Since the bet lost, he has no reason to request a refund. Because the bet lost. Had the bet won, he would (likely) be correct in demanding the bet+profit. Here's an example. You and I make a friendly $20 wager on a game. I'm pretty sure that if you lose you aren't going to pay me, so I steal $20 from your wallet just in case. If you lose the bet, you can't ask for your money back because you were planning on scumming me. Honor among thieves and all that. Although obviously everyone agrees that DB needs to stop allowing these zero confirm bets. It's only going to be bad for them, never good. @twitchy, I was just saying ive posted here numerous times waiting for directbet to see the bump to return. They literally haven't responded to a single email, pm, or forum post. Crazy. I dont think you know how it works or what happened. Lol. I have posted here numerous times and they just post spam .000001 btc promos. I sent btc, and their page said bet rejected and coin would be returned after 1 confirmation. So the bet wasn't Live. Or thats how I interpretted their site. Now hundreds of confimrations later they didnt return or message. I have no idea what their deal is, but ignoring players and holding their coin for long periods of time is not the key to success They are accusing you of freerolling them in this bet: https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JtH9TefRKwB9W71qeD2fAGGCp27PtWnnn By double spending the wager and cancelling it once you realized it would likely lose. (notice the transaction id doesn't exist. that usually indicates it was pruned from the network bc the balance was spent in a different tx) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F4e189c3a0cd95702102e4370f8fa08ae.png&t=665&c=6lmvwy5B3-f5Uw) They stole your 9 BTC wager because they think you stole 15 BTC from them. DB, This is not the way to handle the situation. Stop acting like Betcoin.
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July 07, 2016, 06:48:02 PM |
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DirectBet, could you please post proof that ragernation is made both bets? I took a look at both transactions and the addresses associated. The double spent one double spends it to BTC-e, which could be used to mix the coins for the second bet, but I didn't find any solid evidence. There were inputs that came from inputs from NitrogenSports for the 9 BTC bet, which could indicate more coin mixing, and ones that came from an exchange/Xapo, but I failed to find a solid link between the two.
Unrelated to the ragernation matter: Thanks for refunding my bets that I made in error because I was confused. No other bitcoin books do that, so I'm glad I made this mistake at directbet. (0.8BTC refunded)
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July 07, 2016, 06:58:20 PM |
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Euro 2016Germany v FranceBet NOW LIVE with your Bitcoins, Litecoins, Dogecoins, Dash & Ether !Good Luck !Michelle https://www.DirectBet.eu
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July 08, 2016, 04:16:28 PM |
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DirectBet, could you please post proof that ragernation is made both bets? I took a look at both transactions and the addresses associated. The double spent one double spends it to BTC-e, which could be used to mix the coins for the second bet, but I didn't find any solid evidence. There were inputs that came from inputs from NitrogenSports for the 9 BTC bet, which could indicate more coin mixing, and ones that came from an exchange/Xapo, but I failed to find a solid link between the two.
Unrelated to the ragernation matter: Thanks for refunding my bets that I made in error because I was confused. No other bitcoin books do that, so I'm glad I made this mistake at directbet. (0.8BTC refunded)
Since they have never emailed me and only sent 1 PM in over a week, it is clear what their intentions are. Direcbet is a group of thieves. They just try to hide and bury the fact with their shitty promo posts. Anyone can go to blockchain.info/doublespend and pick a transaction and say "look see they are the same!" after the fact. Looking back through theses posts alot of users have to post to have their coin returned. Its like they stalk their prey.
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July 08, 2016, 04:34:10 PM |
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I'd like to see the proof also as its a serious allegation.
DirectBet paid me out over $9000 with zero issue yesterday.... but then nobody is accusing me of double spending or scamming.
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July 08, 2016, 04:43:48 PM |
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July 09, 2016, 06:26:26 PM |
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July 09, 2016, 08:27:10 PM |
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I'd like to see the proof also as its a serious allegation.
DirectBet paid me out over $9000 with zero issue yesterday.... but then nobody is accusing me of double spending or scamming.
Is this a no to proof being provided then? I think its perhaps unreasonable to seize funds without showing us absolute proof... You guys are completely anonymous - whats to stop you just taking my next bet and refusing to pay me? I don't think you would but it'd make it easier to continue to use your book if the allegations of "they stole my money" were refuted with actual proof.
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July 09, 2016, 09:03:27 PM |
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You guys are completely anonymous - whats to stop you just taking my next bet and refusing to pay me? I don't think you would but it'd make it easier to continue to use your book if the allegations of "they stole my money" were refuted with actual proof.
We do have evidence, we're 100% sure. However, for security reasons, we can not share the details as this knowledge could help the hackers better attack us in the future. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to PM us or e-mail support@directbet.euDirectBet is the most popular and trusted Crypto Currency Sportsbook. We pay out hundreds of Bitcoins in winnings every day and host many high roller bettors who enjoy anonymous betting and instant payouts. We were also voted the # 1 Sportsbook of the year by Bitcointalk members for two years in a row.
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July 09, 2016, 11:42:36 PM |
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Fair enough, I appreciate you don't want to post info that might help scammers try and have a 2nd go at scamming. It just seems a bit off from a customer point of view... I do believe your side of the story though. cheers
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