Holdaaja
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January 02, 2014, 08:12:22 PM |
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How much did he stole total? Like +150BTC? Sick.
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Gamer67
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January 02, 2014, 08:15:20 PM |
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Much more than that.
201.7 BTC from just one person. I can't be bothered to do the calculations in the thread but I would not be surprised if it was double that adding up the others. Lessons might be learned. Then again they might not.
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Holdaaja
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January 02, 2014, 08:58:52 PM |
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Much more than that.
201.7 BTC from just one person. I can't be bothered to do the calculations in the thread but I would not be surprised if it was double that adding up the others. Lessons might be learned. Then again they might not.
Wow! Here should be like some company that would handle escrows, can't trust anyone now  |
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January 02, 2014, 10:27:56 PM |
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can't trust anyone now This is terrible. A lot of good people here have just been swindled. I wouldn't go so far as to say that nobody can be trusted, however I would always exercise extreme caution. There are many on this forum working hard to do respectable business lets not discredit these people because of one guy like this. I sincerely hope this works out in your favor. I lost one of my Casascius coins yesterday and was feeling very upset. This thread made me realize that it could be worse. I think after the amount of time he has been on this forum and the amount of dealings he has had surely someone knows something about his personal whereabouts? I have only been a forum member for about a year and have had several Hero members to my home. Doesn't anyone know him? |
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Gamer67
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January 02, 2014, 10:33:22 PM
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Dude is on his way to a nice vacation destination. We are talking about moving to a different country type money here. The likelihood of this guy staying at his home where people have info on him is very low. Factor in that the police will be next to useless because most of them will need to attend bitcoin 101 to even understand them.
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Chainsaw
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January 02, 2014, 10:42:20 PM |
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It's not much, but one of my trusted contacts that lives in the UK has offered to put us in touch with a good lawyer, and suggested we gather up the bank account information and contact the police as soon as possible. He is currently on vacation, and I want to respect his identity, but best case, he'll post here with information/offers soon.
(And yes, he has probably fled, but if we have bank account information, we know his identity, and we should have a good chance of finding him. Enough that it's worth the effort, and contacting authorities, anyway.)
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January 02, 2014, 10:51:05 PM |
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Chainsaw just informed me of what has happened.
I'm in the Uk (and ironically enough left edinburgh a few hours ago). You guys need to get all the details together and get the police involved ASAP. I suggest getting in touch over email/Skype. You cannot be anonymous to push this forward so be aware of that but you don't need to be in the UK.
I do know a very good uk law firm but this is a criminal matter so they may only be able to suggest someone else or say that the police need to be informed.
I'm away until Tuesday but am happy to help in any way I can.
I'm so sorry to hear of yet another scam (am myself caught up waiting for weexchange money).
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wachtwoord
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January 02, 2014, 10:58:24 PM |
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Dude is on his way to a nice vacation destination. We are talking about moving to a different county type money here. The likelihood of this guy staying at his home where people have info on him is very low. Factor in that the police will be next to useless because most of them will need to attend bitcoin 101 to even understand them.
David Williamson Broomhouse Place North Edinburgh EH11 3UG Bank account data possible over PM. I'm not really sure whether the police will do any good though. My only interest really is to get my money back. |
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ffssixtynine
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January 02, 2014, 11:05:58 PM |
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This is a must for the police I would have thought. You will need to provide firm evidence of theft and known identity information.
This is not the time for angry bitcoin threads but no action. Someone has stolen a shed load of money from you guys. You need them arrested ASAP if possible.
I have just intro'd Chainsaw to my UK lawyers who will hopefully tell him who to speak to.
I would also suggest names/addresses are restricted to private communications to avoid potential issues.
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KCmining
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January 02, 2014, 11:10:10 PM |
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As my package of puppets (or whatever) is currently stuck in USPS' moronic forwarding I can't really do anything until I get the 'returned to sender' notice to confirm the scam.
I have nothing to hide and will be happy to submit evidence / personal info / as needed to lawyers of the police.
He needs to be held accountable for this.
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January 02, 2014, 11:25:35 PM |
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This is a must for the police I would have thought. You will need to provide firm evidence of theft and known identity information.
This is not the time for angry bitcoin threads but no action. Someone has stolen a shed load of money from you guys. You need them arrested ASAP if possible.
I have just intro'd Chainsaw to my UK lawyers who will hopefully tell him who to speak to.
I would also suggest names/addresses are restricted to private communications to avoid potential issues.
Yes, but he'll have stored the Bitcoins somewhere else and getting him arrested/convicted does not get the Bitcoins back. Also, does showing Bitcoin transactions and a bunch of emails/PMs really prove anything for the police? |
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January 02, 2014, 11:29:46 PM |
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This is a must for the police I would have thought. You will need to provide firm evidence of theft and known identity information.
This is not the time for angry bitcoin threads but no action. Someone has stolen a shed load of money from you guys. You need them arrested ASAP if possible.
I have just intro'd Chainsaw to my UK lawyers who will hopefully tell him who to speak to.
I would also suggest names/addresses are restricted to private communications to avoid potential issues.
Yes, but he'll have stored the Bitcoins somewhere else and getting him arrested/convicted does not get the Bitcoins back. Also, does showing Bitcoin transactions and a bunch of emails/PMs really prove anything for the police? That's correct - I believe in the UK it's a county court judgement or CCJ that would be in order? I don't know, perhaps a criminal court can compel him to recompense the injured parties - or jail time? |
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Gamer67
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January 02, 2014, 11:35:25 PM |
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Even with a CCJ. If he has no means to pay back your SOL. Assuming of course he is ever caught and held accountable.
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January 02, 2014, 11:35:50 PM |
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Has anyone who has his phone number tried calling it yet?
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January 02, 2014, 11:38:07 PM |
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IANAL but this is theft, not a ccj type case. Doesn't matter that it's bitcoins. I would have though that they should be contacted ASAP.
This is a criminal matter, involves a very large sum of money, and you have evidence of identity - at the very least you have uk bank accounts that have been used.
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January 02, 2014, 11:42:06 PM |
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IANAL but this is theft, not a ccj type case. Doesn't matter that it's bitcoins. I would have though that they should be contacted ASAP.
This is a criminal matter, involves a very large sum of money, and you have evidence of identity - at the very least you have uk bank accounts that have been used.
Thank you and you are right, I concur. |
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ffssixtynine
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January 03, 2014, 12:03:32 AM |
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Now this is spooky. Projects was recommended to me as someone reliable to sell me knc gear a few days ago. I turned it down as too risky. Just checked my PMs and it's the same dude.
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January 03, 2014, 12:15:00 AM |
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Recommended by whom? Projects traded coins - buying and selling equipment seems like an odd departure for him.
Are any of you UK based? Someone should speak with the authorities asap.
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Chainsaw
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January 03, 2014, 12:23:44 AM |
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At this point, thanks to the help of many of you, I have a name, address, and accounts used in the thefts.
As ffssixtynine mentioned, he's given me the name of a lawyer.
I'm willing to contact the police ASAP, I'm unsure of:
-Whether I should first wait to speak with the lawyer ffs has put me in touch with (I assume I should not wait), and
-Their phone number, and protocol. (I've never had to call police before in my own nation, much less in Scotland!)
If anyone cares to chime in on these subjects, or more helpfully, PM me the phone number of the Scotland police (bobbies? See - I'm gonna look like a foreigner tool talking to them!), I'd be grateful.
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January 03, 2014, 12:34:21 AM |
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At this point, thanks to the help of many of you, I have a name, address, and accounts used in the thefts.
As ffssixtynine mentioned, he's given me the name of a lawyer.
I'm willing to contact the police ASAP, I'm unsure of:
-Whether I should first wait to speak with the lawyer ffs has put me in touch with (I assume I should not wait), and
-Their phone number, and protocol. (I've never had to call police before in my own nation, much less in Scotland!)
If anyone cares to chime in on these subjects, or more helpfully, PM me the phone number of the Scotland police (bobbies? See - I'm gonna look like a foreigner tool talking to them!), I'd be grateful.
I would call Police Scotland on +44 131 311 3131. A) They are based in Edinburgh and b) It's their centralised police force. They will be able to direct you appropriately even if they can't help. |
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