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[Kergekoin]

Yet another separate forum is really bad idea imho. We can easily keep discussion here or make new thread for this.

Problem is we only have 1 topic here. And 107 pages. We need to keep track on who is doing what. And what info we have that matters. Its easier to put in dedicated topics. Like team info, payments on new chain, payments on the old chain etc. So we keep it centralised. Otherwise its going to be a mess i think.

How come its easier to sign up for yet another forum and start digging through all those topics in there? I dont think so.
In this case. One flow of posts is best way to do this discussion.

[Mjollnir]

Yet another separate forum is really bad idea imho. We can easily keep discussion here or make new thread for this.

Problem is we only have 1 topic here. And 107 pages. We need to keep track on who is doing what. And what info we have that matters. Its easier to put in dedicated topics. Like team info, payments on new chain, payments on the old chain etc. So we keep it centralised. Otherwise its going to be a mess i think.

How come its easier to sign up for yet another forum and start digging through all those topics in there? I dont think so.
In this case. One flow of posts is best way to do this discussion.

When its about discussion yes.

But to make my point. Maybe you can find me the name then of the dev Solidchance talked about? I have to go trough all the pages again.

[Mjollnir]

I already got it  

But i was not meaning to move the discussion away from here. Just want the people who take a rol in taking over a platform to put info together. Technical etc. And have a way to look it up without going trough all the pages.


I got some basic info. It this about right?

Management: Solidchance
Dev: axio (yet to be discussed/payment etc.)
Dev support (wallet etc.) rznag


I also know that murkanovic fixed the old bug.


http://e-token.info/index.php?topic=5.0

[pttinh]

I already got it  

But i was not meaning to move the discussion away from here. Just want the people who take a rol in taking over a platform to put info together. Technical etc. And have a way to look it up without going trough all the pages.


I got some basic info. It this about right?

Management: Solidchance
Dev: axio (yet to be discussed/payment etc.)
Dev support (wallet etc.) rznag


I also know that murkanovic fixed the old bug.


http://e-token.info/index.php?topic=5.0

+1

excellent team!!!

[suncoastbuddy]

I have done a little research and the last deposits to coinedup came from 3 different addresses (which I am assuming are the ones that continued to mine)

These deposits totalled 3030 coins and the last block that was affected was block 97823 before coinedup stopped trading. So if we fork just after this block with the changes that i mentioned earlier, coinedup balances, should be fine for everyone.

I do not however have a transaction Id for the last withdrawal from coined up to check the block number on that.

Mjollnir, It prob wouldn't hurt for you to double check that I have the last block affected right if you are able to.

[rznag]

If trades on coinedup were just around 3000 coins we should rollback to where the fork happened.
It`s easier to pay the 126 withdrawn coins or 3000 traded coins than having more than 100000 easy coins (0.00000024 diff) floating around.
The deposits sitting on coinedup shouldn`t be a problem. If they`re from the old chain they stay, if they`re from the new they get deleted.
Everything mined after the fork should be worthless.

[Mjollnir]

I have done a little research and the last deposits to coinedup came from 3 different addresses (which I am assuming are the ones that continued to mine)

These deposits totalled 3030 coins and the last block that was affected was block 97823 before coinedup stopped trading. So if we fork just after this block with the changes that i mentioned earlier, coinedup balances, should be fine for everyone.

I do not however have a transaction Id for the last withdrawal from coined up to check the block number on that.

Mjollnir, It prob wouldn't hurt for you to double check that I have the last block affected right if you are able to.

Hi,

I also saw a list with the 3 different addresses. So those people were going on with mining. Altough it was clear something was wrong. They must have know that.

I think its a better idea to fork before it went wrong. And to keep coinedup happy we could create a little bank and pay those 3 addresses. Lucky bastards  

and there is 200+ on withdraws also need to be paid. I think we would be very polite to do so. Cant imagen coinedup wont see that. Compared to some scam coins they let in. We are trying and doing the right thing. But have thousends of cheap coins being in wallets by a few solo miners . It sure will keep e-token down for a long time. Not a good idea imho

[Mjollnir]

If trades on coinedup were just around 3000 coins we should rollback to where the fork happened.
It`s easier to pay the 126 withdrawn coins or 3000 traded coins than having more than 100000 easy coins (0.00000024 diff) floating around.
The deposits sitting on coinedup shouldn`t be a problem. If they`re from the old chain they stay, if they`re from the new they get deleted.
Everything mined after the fork should be worthless.

Yep same idea  +1

[suncoastbuddy]

If trades on coinedup were just around 3000 coins we should rollback to where the fork happened.
It`s easier to pay the 126 withdrawn coins or 3000 traded coins than having more than 100000 easy coins (0.00000024 diff) floating around.
The deposits sitting on coinedup shouldn`t be a problem. If they`re from the old chain they stay, if they`re from the new they get deleted.
Everything mined after the fork should be worthless.

3000 is just the last few deposits before coinedup finished.  That was at 15.16 on 21st.  Who knows how many we're deposited and sold before that

[illodin]

I support 100% what rznag and Mjollnir just said.

Basically I'm disgusted by the few who knew something was wrong and quickly tried to pass the damage to others.

[stewart2012]

congratulation Mjollnir

you are best body for ETOK managment ... good luck

[Mjollnir]

If trades on coinedup were just around 3000 coins we should rollback to where the fork happened.
It`s easier to pay the 126 withdrawn coins or 3000 traded coins than having more than 100000 easy coins (0.00000024 diff) floating around.
The deposits sitting on coinedup shouldn`t be a problem. If they`re from the old chain they stay, if they`re from the new they get deleted.
Everything mined after the fork should be worthless.

3000 is just the last few deposits before coinedup finished.  That was at 15.16 on 21st.  Who knows how many we're deposited and sold before that

Well could be ofcourse. But there was not that much trading. Besides from a few addresss with a lot of coins. I also have cheap mined coins. I thought that you could sell them but i did not do it. I admit some honest people could be victum of this bug. But i watched the trading on coinedup often. And almost never saw big ammounts of coins going by.

But yes. I understand its not a perfect solution. But going on with the chain from the moment coinedup stopped. Would mean 16 hours or so of pre mining. Deadly

[rznag]

If trades on coinedup were just around 3000 coins we should rollback to where the fork happened.
It`s easier to pay the 126 withdrawn coins or 3000 traded coins than having more than 100000 easy coins (0.00000024 diff) floating around.
The deposits sitting on coinedup shouldn`t be a problem. If they`re from the old chain they stay, if they`re from the new they get deleted.
Everything mined after the fork should be worthless.

3000 is just the last few deposits before coinedup finished.  That was at 15.16 on 21st.  Who knows how many we're deposited and sold before that

We need a list from coinedup about all trades happened in the time between fork and when they turned off their Services. Then we can decide based On this numbers.
If we can't get these numbers we have to ignore coinedup in our decision.

I think there wasn't much trade Volume in said time frame.

[badam]

I support 100% what rznag and Mjollnir just said.

Basically I'm disgusted by the few who knew something was wrong and quickly tried to pass the damage to others.

Me too if we make the new fork at 97k there will be 60.000  coins that will be dumped by those who mined at 0.00024 diff. That is almost the bank...if we do it there it won't have a reason

[Mjollnir]

congratulation Mjollnir

you are best body for ETOK managment ... good luck

eh i hope its not sarcastic 

[stewart2012]

eh i hope its not sarcastic 

no never my friend ... i am so glad that see your Perseverance for alive ETOK ...

I HOPE TO SAVE ETOK ... best wishesh for you ...

[suncoastbuddy]

I understand what you guys are saying and that is what I prefer to do, but....

Solidchance spoke to coinedup and they said it is hard for them to undo them because there have been trades with the phantom coins.

So that means that people have bought some of them, paying with btc, and they will have nothing to show for it.  Imagine the bad publicity from that.  The btc that people made from selling the phantom coins has prob now been withdrawn.  To reverse all of that then wouldn't coined up accounts have negative btc balances? which will need to be reimbursed???

Coinedup will prob not support etoken again.  And I can't see another exchange touching us if we leave coinedup with negative btc.  I think I would prefer to have this coin with an established market than try and get it onto another exchange given the probs over the last few days.

Once again, I don't like rewarding the greedy but really there is no solution to keeping everyone happy.

[Last1212]

I am still looking for some wallet.dat files. If you don't need them, feel free to PM me

[suncoastbuddy]

I just want to see etoken survive, I have invested all of my btc into it pre fork.

[Mjollnir]

I understand what you guys are saying and that is what I prefer to do, but....

Solidchance spoke to coinedup and they said it is hard for them to undo them because there have been trades with the phantom coins.

So that means that people have bought some of them, paying with btc, and they will have nothing to show for it.  Imagine the bad publicity from that.  The btc that people made from selling the phantom coins has prob now been withdrawn.  To reverse all of that then wouldn't coined up accounts have negative btc balances? which will need to be reimbursed???

Coinedup will prob not support etoken again.  And I can't see another exchange touching us if we leave coinedup with negative btc.  I think I would prefer to have this coin with an established market than try and get it onto another exchange given the probs over the last few days.

Once again, I don't like rewarding the greedy but really there is no solution to keeping everyone happy.

I get your point indeed. But i think there are less coins being sold  then there are generated in that time frame.

Maybe its a idea. With the recreation of this coin (kinda)to create 1 block to make a bank. A bank big enough to pay coinedup and the dev etc. ?

Coinedup must be able to give some info about that.

The only thing that will dissapear should be the etokens people bought with BTC. So they will have to get new etokens.

But i supose only a dev can really tell us what is possible or not. If we can't make a bank and pay off coinedup. Then your path can be a vallid option indeed.