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December 12, 2014, 10:16:12 PM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Jesus man, how hard was that?

Why you could not have posted this a year ago or whatever when asked by (iirc) many people is beyond me.  And it is also perfectly appropriate for the community to have reasonable requests (chief among them a request for explicit transparency) and serious questions given the nature of both Bitcoin and the nature of the CFR.  Very little 'conspiracy theory' about the CFR is required to provoke such questions.  If you avoided these rather bland and reasonable requests just for shits-n-giggles, one would think (and hope) that you've got better things to do.


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December 13, 2014, 12:15:24 AM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Thank you. We just wanted to know how it went. Late is better than never.

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December 13, 2014, 12:56:14 AM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


This was from January
Well at least someone necroed it back to get a comment
Late is better than never after all thanks.

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December 15, 2014, 02:01:53 AM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Thank you; one wonders if the CFR might want a refresher eventually.
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December 15, 2014, 02:04:03 AM
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The recording in question: http://www.cfr.org/economics/can-bitcoin-go-mainstream/p32339

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December 15, 2014, 03:02:12 AM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Yeah, pretty sure I read a transcript of the entire thing somewhere.

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December 15, 2014, 03:22:45 AM
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December 15, 2014, 05:20:08 AM
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And here I thought they were gonna use this meeting to figure out how they were going to shake Karples down for some/most of his fat stash of BTC and other ill gotten gains.

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January 14, 2015, 05:34:54 PM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Gavin Andresen on Bitcoin: "Expect Chaos & Drama". That sounds so CFRish's own "Order out of Chaos".

Btw I wonder how you got named as the Chief Scientist for the Bitcoin Foundation when you don't have a background in cryptography and only came to know Bitcoin later. How did you climbed the ladder so fast Mr. Bell a.k.a Andresen?

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January 14, 2015, 09:11:13 PM
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Btw I wonder how you got named as the Chief Scientist for the Bitcoin Foundation when you don't have a background in cryptography and only came to know Bitcoin later. How did you climbed the ladder so fast Mr. Bell a.k.a Andresen?

Well his background is that he is a computer scientist, that's how. And he worked with Satoshi early on. He's not new at all to bitcoin.

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January 14, 2015, 09:23:18 PM
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You're right. That was Gavin-bait. Well David Rabahy it's been six months and still no field report. Maybe next year. lol

Huh what? Field report from my talk at the CFR?

I barely remember it, there were probably 50 people in suits in the audience, nobody I recognized. The whole thing is on video, there were no secret meetings, I got there 10 minutes before my talk and left 10 minutes after (I had a bunch of interviews with DC-based journalists scheduled... and I think that was the trip I had lunch with Jim Harper and got a tour of Cato, although I might be mis-remembering).


Gavin Andresen on Bitcoin: "Expect Chaos & Drama". That sounds so CFRish's own "Order out of Chaos".

Btw I wonder how you got named as the Chief Scientist for the Bitcoin Foundation when you don't have a background in cryptography and only came to know Bitcoin later. How did you climbed the ladder so fast Mr. Bell a.k.a Andresen?

Gavin was working on Bitcoin long before the Bitcoin Foundation was created and I do recall he was the one that made the announcement that they were working on creating the Bitcoin Foundation.

The Bitcoin Foundation is nothing official, just a club with members. I can create the Bitcoin Club tomorrow and name myself Chief of Knowledge.

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An earlier link in turn lead to a pdf for a Congressional Research Service analysis of bitcoin.  I read that paper.  The word choices and scenarios presented in this analysis suggests to me that they are viewing bitcoin as a disruptive technology, but not in a knee-jerk fearful manner.
Here it is for free:

Elwell, Craig Kent, M. Maureen Murphy, Michael V Seitzinger, Library of Congress, and Congressional Research Service. Bitcoin Questions, Answers, and Analysis of Legal Issues. Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, 2013. (updated: January 28, 2015)

It's pretty interesting, just to see how how they understand Bitcoin.

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June 21, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
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An earlier link in turn lead to a pdf for a Congressional Research Service analysis of bitcoin.  I read that paper.  The word choices and scenarios presented in this analysis suggests to me that they are viewing bitcoin as a disruptive technology, but not in a knee-jerk fearful manner.
Here it is for free:

Elwell, Craig Kent, M. Maureen Murphy, Michael V Seitzinger, Library of Congress, and Congressional Research Service. Bitcoin Questions, Answers, and Analysis of Legal Issues. Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, 2013. (updated: January 28, 2015)

It's pretty interesting, just to see how how they understand Bitcoin.

Interesting indeed. So they updated this report after Gavin's debrief or before?

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June 21, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
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Three words sum it up.

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June 22, 2015, 07:54:28 AM
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An earlier link in turn lead to a pdf for a Congressional Research Service analysis of bitcoin.  I read that paper.  The word choices and scenarios presented in this analysis suggests to me that they are viewing bitcoin as a disruptive technology, but not in a knee-jerk fearful manner.
Here it is for free:

Elwell, Craig Kent, M. Maureen Murphy, Michael V Seitzinger, Library of Congress, and Congressional Research Service. Bitcoin Questions, Answers, and Analysis of Legal Issues. Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, 2013. (updated: January 28, 2015)

It's pretty interesting, just to see how how they understand Bitcoin.

Interesting indeed. So they updated this report after Gavin's debrief or before?
after: They updated it January 28, 2015, and Gavin's address was Feb. 2014.

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Btw I wonder how you got named as the Chief Scientist for the Bitcoin Foundation when you don't have a background in cryptography and only came to know Bitcoin later. How did you climbed the ladder so fast Mr. Bell a.k.a Andresen?

Well his background is that he is a computer scientist, that's how. And he worked with Satoshi early on. He's not new at all to bitcoin.

Look, RodeoX is talking on Gavins' behalf again. He loves to do that. Wonder if Gavin likes this or if he is more annoyed or even embarassed for it? Have you ever asked him, Rodeox if it would be ok or appropriate to speak on his behalf; even when he's in the conversation; like the mother of a 6-year-old would do? Effectively incapacitating him to even comment after you without looking a bit foolish? Ever thought about the possibility that Gavin maybe does not like it?
A spineless creature licking my boots and speaking on my behalf would be just about the most embarassing thing for me to have especially when i take part in the conversation. Wonder if Gavin feels differently? Does he actually like it? Ever asked for permission to do this all over the place? Did you even realize you did it? Why is it that you assume it's ok to extend your personality to Gavin? Do you think you are Gavin or can read his mind or know what he knows and know what he would say? Are you maybe mentally not fully developed in some way? Could maybe be too much oestrogen too. Anyways, looking forward to more "i am the mother of gavin and speak on his behalf"-comments. Some great stuff, really.

Maybe if you read it you could briefly answer when you met Gavin the first time, how often you met him overalll, how did you come to study his life and do you share beds too? Just some random questions that come to mind.  Roll Eyes
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June 28, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
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This anti-Gavin sideshow is clearly all just a ploy to divert attention from the real story.

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Take a look at this picture of Peter Todd, look at his T-Shirt and tell me he's being ironical. You don't wear a T-Shirt with NSA logo unless you idolize them or work for them.

I remember the first time I met Peter Todd, Jeff Garzik introduced him to me, he just seemed to pop out from nowhere. My encounter with him was brief. But I noticed he didn't swallow the bait even then. So I don't really know his real motive being in the Bitcoin game.

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