Kouye, I would have said the same thing- in the most sarcastic way possible "how nice of you" cyrus...
Even though, admin has been completely transparent in all this crap cyrus is saying "he wants to be anonymous" but Admin has been plenty transparent since this got serious the past 2 days while you did "whatever" in Pm's and ignoring people for the most part.
When we made the deal, he wanted to remain anonymous. I respected that. Problems with that too? Would it been better if I released info on him and mentioning our agreement prior to this? I only respected the agreement.
Cyrus you didn't even really want to talk until admin shows up and called you out.
I was talking in here, replying, before he showed up.
I can honestly say that admin seems to be accountable more then you have, more willing to share, more willing to speak up. I'm looking at his actions here and they are commendable, more then your own cyrus. He beat you to that one. Sorry.
By this you mean more willing to point a finger or two in my direction.
1. I just want to note, the point of brinigng up his investment - at least for me - was to show how much BITCOIN (not usd) was invested into the website. The point of this would be to show the flow of coins through bitspoker...if the website is bankrupt and why according to amounts. Amounts are NOT adding up nor making sense.
1 chip = .0001
Plus 14+ bitcoins from Deadgiveaway (Admin)
Plus whatever Cyrus supposedly contributed
Plus deposits from users (me being a multi time depositor and i know of many others)
= a lot of bitcoin flowing around on a website with a very very very small community for less then a year? Let's not confused two issues here, one being the bitcoin and poker chips being used vs any money that "might have" been joobed away from your admins investment. Two separate issues.
12 out of 14 were the money for the site, money that has been sent to me.
The rest of the funds went into promotions(freerolls, giveaways, etc) and development(some work on the affiliate system, the transaction history page and the avatar, the latter being paid by me). Any other development work was done by me.
Funds ran out when freerolls and guaranteeds weren't funded anymore and players winning freerolls or winning chips from freeroll players made a withdraw. Again, this was a term of the agreement that he broke.
2. If you have no reservations with transferring the domain name due to deads payments to you, you still have the opportunity to do that. I mean, he did pay you. Him giving you money and babysitting your chat room does not sound like 50/50 to me. It sounds like you hired him as an employee but instead he gave you a paycheck. Are you willing to transfer that domain name?
No reservation. I'd be glad if this story has a happy ending and am trying to help with that. But please refrain from saying he "babysitted my chatroom", as I made clear the terms of our deal and his quality in BitsPoker. He paid me with 12 BTC and half of the future profit. I repeated myself again because you somehow didn't understand.
3. Your pushing blame again on your admin, and I hate that when people are representing a business they started and grew. It speaks for itself and you are still doing it. Just because you give someone a responsibility does not mean you don't have one yourself to check on your own product - which you have clearly neglected for months.
I see that you only blame me, this is getting curious
. But nonetheless, I did start BitsPoker and when I realised the project needed more funding and someone with more experience I decided to sell it. Sold it to the wrong guy apparently. My bad.
But don't say that I've been neglecting it, who do you think made the improvements on the website, in the client and so on? Just appeared out of nowhere?
4. Cyrus, if you are willing...Please post the blockchains for every single deposit or contribution that you are mentioning. I've seen a few numbers i think, the most recent one being a .35 deposit "recently" - blockchain it or it never happened. Let's be transparent here. Isn't that what the blockchain was intended for anyway? Anymoney flowing into the site would also have to "flow out of the site" in order for it to be used for these extra costs. Blockchain it.
A 0.35 was the total of my recent contribution for compensating freeroll chips(won't repeat the agreement again, I've done it enough).
Blockchain.info for 0.25 of it
here.
5. Cyrus you don't impress me and I don't trust you. You contradict yourself. Your absence invalidates you. Your push of blame around the table makes you look shady. When you spend the entire time pushing blame on to this guy then say "i dont want to blame you or anything" you literally sound like you have no clue what you are doing yourself, nor how to manage a situation as a business man in a situation which as spun out of control.
I don't want to impress you, neither want to gain your trust. But I did reply kindly to your questions. Is this shady behaviour?
As for the pushing the blame. I only stated facts. When I said, speaking of Deadgiveaway, "I don't want to blame you or anything, I think you were just in over your head", was merely saying that I feel sorry this happened the way it did and that I don't think he's a bad guy. If that was too contradicting with or without context I'm sorry, but don't twist my words please.
I wouldn't mind a refund for all of my bitcoins ever deposited.
Ok, give me an address.
I never made a withdraw never got there. My last withdraw I gave away most of my coins, transfered some to needy players....I gave some away on IRC to players who would sign up and deposit.
A bit contradicting.
I was also playng with unsupervised multi cheater accounts - and apparently admin. Not a legit poker game I invested it sounds like.
From what I know, he did took action on a number of multi-accounters. I personally haven't played much on BitsPoker, from principle.
Too bad my entire history is somehow washed from the "history" on the accounts menu. I have my own history from coinbase that shows 1 more deposit then recorded on your site.
The transaction history page only shows transactions happened after the date the page has been added. Maybe that deposit was older, but could be a bug on the page.
I think everyone should start posting their blockchains.
Cyrus especially you. If you want anyone to take this seriously, and maybe you are being sincere and just completely too inexperience to know how to handle it, post the blockchains show where the money is going and went. Back it up with the ledger. Perhaps you are telling the truth and just not very good at public relations or interpersonal communications processes. Either way....block chains would be nice. I heard someone mention a transfer to Satoshi Dice. I've looked at so many players blockchains I cant even think straight right now.
But one thing i do know, is I trusted bitspoker with money and so did many people, and Cyrus neglected it while holding his name on the software, the website, and everything having to do with bitspoker was in the name of CYRUS - yet when shit hits the fan it's someone elses fault and people have to play wheres waldo to find cyrus on some unrelated bitcointalk forum - while all the players are hurting in the website chatbox, the website email (which obviously you use) and the website official forums GAB. You can't blame anyone but yourself for that. It makes no sense and you can't convince me that is OK behavior.
Should have transferred the domain to him after the transaction and all this would have been different. Just out of curiosity, would you still be blaming me if that were the case?
Domain transfer wasn't discussed, but I don't think he would have wanted to have his name all over things as he wanted to remain anonymous. And he still is anonymous. Do you happen to know who is Deadgiveaway? But I do appreciate the effort to dig up info on me, I have no problem with that, as I was the one that put it online. But somehow I'm still shady in comparison to him.
I'll look and post some more blockchain.info links.
I can't be more straightforward than this. A talk on Skype is still possible, would be interesting to see if Deadgiveaway talked to people privately about me behind my back
As said before, if this energy can be directed towards something more positive, like rebuilding, there would be a silver lining.
Maybe half of what is written right now is done for another reason(maybe I'm paranoid, maybe not)Deadgiveaway owes me the money I've been putting into BitsPoker after the acquisition. Forgot to mention that, not that I hope to see it again.
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