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December 12, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Last edit: December 12, 2014, 05:05:45 PM by hashcoins
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.
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December 12, 2014, 05:16:31 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

Is there a reason you cannot send Ares and Zeus at same time? Or send Zeus first.   I think Zeus is one most of us would like to see specs on.
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December 12, 2014, 08:05:52 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

Why is it that you claim to have this super advanced/improved hardware that blows away the competition, yet you only want dogie to review your unimpressive hardware?

Here's what we want to see:

- HF boards that achieve 900 GH/s per chip at 0.65 w/gh.

Here's what nobody cares about:

- HF board which gets 550 gh/s per chip at 1 w/gh
- Scrypt miner which you've bought from alcheminer and added your own logo
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December 12, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.
If you'd like, I'd be willing to compensate any lost income you might suffer from the negative trust between now and a proper review by giving you an escrowed bet up to 100BTC.
I will bet 1:1 that you will not be able to provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously achieves 810GH/s (that is your spec, -10%) and drawing 0.78J/GH at the wall (your spec + 20%).
If you want even further relaxed specs vs what you claim, I will alternately bet you 1:2 (my 100 vs your 200) that you cannot provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously hashes at 710GH/s (20% below your spec) while drawing less than 0.91J/GH at the wall (your spec +40%).

Given the sums involved, the bet of course would need to be escrowed. In addition to the unit you send to dogie, I would like to purchase one board to be sent at the same time for my own verification. If you're unable to provide a full unit, I'd offer to pay 1/5th the price ($600) for the single board. The purchase would also be escrowed, and should the board fail to meet the relaxed spec (710GH/s @ 646.1W) the escrow will be returned to me and I will ship the board back to you at your cost as it is obviously defective.

Let me know if you're interested, and we can flush out and finalize terms.
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December 12, 2014, 09:57:35 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.
If you'd like, I'd be willing to compensate any lost income you might suffer from the negative trust between now and a proper review by giving you an escrowed bet up to 100BTC.
I will bet 1:1 that you will not be able to provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously achieves 810GH/s (that is your spec, -10%) and drawing 0.78J/GH at the wall (your spec + 20%).
If you want even further relaxed specs vs what you claim, I will alternately bet you 1:2 (my 100 vs your 200) that you cannot provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously hashes at 710GH/s (20% below your spec) while drawing less than 0.91J/GH at the wall (your spec +40%).

Given the sums involved, the bet of course would need to be escrowed. In addition to the unit you send to dogie, I would like to purchase one board to be sent at the same time for my own verification. If you're unable to provide a full unit, I'd offer to pay 1/5th the price ($600) for the single board. The purchase would also be escrowed, and should the board fail to meet the relaxed spec (710GH/s @ 646.1W) the escrow will be returned to me and I will ship the board back to you at your cost as it is obviously defective.

Let me know if you're interested, and we can flush out and finalize terms.

I can be the intermediate here if it helps. Did the same for XBTec, although that one ended on a draw.

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December 12, 2014, 11:01:21 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie.....

Of course you will. He'll write whatever you want if the bribe price is right...... Roll Eyes

Then he can sell them & scam more VAT out of some poor wannabe miner.....nice  Wink

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December 12, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
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This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?

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December 12, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
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This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?
That is the claim.
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December 12, 2014, 11:39:43 PM
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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie.....

Of course you will. He'll write whatever you want if the bribe price is right...... Roll Eyes

Then he can sell them & scam more VAT out of some poor wannabe miner.....nice  Wink

And then you'll turn up again to totally ignore the content of the thread and lie to attempt to abuse me, then lie and commit more libel.

Anyway, I'm the one doing the primary verification so....

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December 12, 2014, 11:42:25 PM
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This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?
That is the claim.
I went back and checked out version 4.6.0 which is in the screenshot there to make sure.

It appears whoever modified the display to show a fake hashrate was not aware of the intimate link between the hashrate and the work utility. There is no way the official cgminer 4.6.0 would show that hashrate and that WU at the same time. This is a doctored output and it is as MrTeal says. The devices are only doing 610GH max each.

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December 12, 2014, 11:51:33 PM
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This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?
That is the claim.
I went back and checked out version 4.6.0 which is in the screenshot there to make sure.

It appears whoever modified the display to show a fake hashrate was not aware of the intimate link between the hashrate and the work utility. There is no way the official cgminer 4.6.0 would show that hashrate and that WU at the same time. This is a doctored output and it is as MrTeal says. The devices are only doing 610GH max each.

Hashcoins you have some answering to do.
Thanks Con. I realized on the road and you answered before I could edit, but they claimed it was the stock hashfast driver, not cgminer. Since hashrate is calculated in cgminer.c and not driver-hashfast.c, I suppose they could have been using a stock hf driver but modded cgminer and not technically been lying.

Except on their product specs, of course.
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December 12, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
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Thanks Con. I realized on the road and you answered before I could edit, but they claimed it was the stock hashfast driver, not cgminer. Since hashrate is calculated in cgminer.c and not driver-hashfast.c, I suppose they could have been using a stock hf driver but modded cgminer and not technically been lying.
The stock hashfast driver was the same driver as mine. They only changed the display output and I can tell from the screenshot that that is not hashfast's build anyway.

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December 13, 2014, 02:29:48 AM
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Well spotted guys, can't wait to hear their explanation for this!

LULZ @ dogie, sniffing around for some free hardware & a quick payday from a company that bullshits like this.

Anyway, I'm the one doing the primary verification so....

Primary verification my arse. Looks like it's already been done. For free.

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December 13, 2014, 03:48:07 AM
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Well spotted guys, can't wait to hear their explanation for this!

LULZ @ dogie, sniffing around for some free hardware & a quick payday from a company that bullshits like this.

Anyway, I'm the one doing the primary verification so....

Primary verification my arse. Looks like it's already been done. For free.

And another one of the troll account's first appearance is within a few hours of the previous troll's first appearance. And they're both posting only so they can flame me, without reading more than a page back [which if they'd bothered to they'd had read that it was Mr Teal that suggested I test the equipment, not me]. Clearly not a coincidence at all seeing as they had both ignored this thread for the last 11 months.

Which other account will 'randomly' stroll on by next, eh?

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December 13, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
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**hashcoins log on - read thread**

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Well, that's settled then - it's bullshit as con & MrTeal have suggested.

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December 13, 2014, 01:53:49 PM
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HashCoins has been 1.5 years on the market, and this thread has 17.5/18 pages of comments by strange people who still don't believe the mere existence of this company. However, this hasn't influenced the speed of the company's progress. Just like one year ago - we were, are and will be shipping mining hardware. Building rapport with every single member, be it a hero or a legendary - I don't see any reason for that.

We are sending the miners for dogie according to availability and order schedule. We deem orders as the most important in our business. However, dogie is indeed a famous and reputable member, that is performing an important task: puts together an objective point of view on the equipment on the market.

Regarding the posted screenshot, I will not be able to explain at this time why the values do not coincide, it may be the drivers, the board, cgminer... I will be asking our programmers. However, may I point out that no customers had any complaints to this day. Noone is planning to delete the screenshot, it shows what we have achieved.

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December 13, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
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I just can't comprehend how many "superheroes" are in this topic, trying to restore justice. My advice: find another place for phallometry!
Now that I vented, my question is to Ares owners - what's the recommended PSU setup for it and what company you use? My miner gets shipped next week

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December 13, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
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what's the recommended PSU setup for it and what company you use? My miner gets shipped next week

I use 5 together - 2 main power supplys for each Ares, they are Chieftec GPM1250C, like was recommended. but since I have two miners, I use one Corsair RM450 for both control boards. if you have 1 miner youll still need 3
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December 13, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
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Thanks for the specs, Umberg. I guess I'll take that as a recommendation, but also check newegg for my options.

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December 13, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
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Thanks for the specs, Umberg. I guess I'll take that as a recommendation, but also check newegg for my options.

np. btw are you planning to mine scrypts or go clevermining like I mentioned? (you can get btc out of it)
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