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So..this project won't take off the ground unless NXT release the source code? U don't need money to become a NEX stakeholder. U don't need any programs to participate in network either. Use your imagination! NEX's trully revolutional, keeping network alive doesn't require any computer of Internet-connection. Immortal and perfect ecosystem. Then by that logic, this is revolutionary; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_schemeI know a little something about markets, and whether NEX is revolutionary or not depends entirely on how NEX is handled by the developers. That is what makes or breaks it. I am not saying this is a Ponzi scheme. But it could be one if the Dev dumps all his NEX the moment it has any value. So before you claim this is revolutionary, I urge you to seriously consider the positive as well as negative outcomes of shareholding.
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January 19, 2014, 01:27:46 PM |
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January 19, 2014, 01:28:18 PM |
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Itredasting, give me some coins ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 19, 2014, 01:29:00 PM |
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If the source code is closed, then how can I trust that it does not have malware. Maybe you didn't know, most all the developers of Nxt are from Belarus.
Right. It's next to Nigeria.
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January 19, 2014, 01:29:10 PM |
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Name's a bit confusing, but I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
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NL/EN Translator. Will work for crypto. NXT:13307336450726014831
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January 19, 2014, 01:29:29 PM |
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I am calling their bluff that "Nxt is open source".
Rest assured, we have in the wings a better version.
Their? No one'd say such thing. More correct description will be: "Base code of Nxt (classes of objects, datathreads) went public 3rd of Jan, 2013, new features're testing as closed sourse, but anyone can decompile Java binaries and take a look, cos it isn't obfuscated". Every open source project has their latest code released in a repository. Bitcoin does. Litecoin does. Linux does. Name one open source project that has 'new features testing as closed source'. Who knows if those 'new features' includes a keylogger.
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January 19, 2014, 01:29:49 PM |
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Hi Frictionless.
Count me in!
I am very interested in NEX and I would like to become a major stakeholder.
I think NXT was very unfair and I really like the work you are doing.
Also, I've seen some of your more technical posts on the forums and I think you know what you're doing. Therefore, please count me in.
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January 19, 2014, 01:30:47 PM |
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So..this project won't take off the ground unless NXT release the source code? I think I see a slight inkling of a flaw here. I am calling their bluff that "Nxt is open source". Oh, I entirely agree with you. If the source isn't public then no, it is not open source. But if NXT are keeping the source to themselves for financial reasons, I do not see what motivation they would have to release it. When I say flaw, what I mean to say is, NXT are not going to release to source unless it is in their best interests, so any protest would have to impact the value of NXT to be successful. If the source code is closed, then how can I trust that it does not have malware. Maybe you didn't know, most all the developers of Nxt are from Belarus. https://github.com/slothbag/nxt-decompiled/blob/master/Nxt.java
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January 19, 2014, 01:31:26 PM |
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So..this project won't take off the ground unless NXT release the source code? I think I see a slight inkling of a flaw here. I am calling their bluff that "Nxt is open source". Rest assured, we have in the wings a better version. https://github.com/slothbag/nxt-decompiled/blob/master/Nxt.java
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January 19, 2014, 01:31:41 PM |
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So..this project won't take off the ground unless NXT release the source code? I think I see a slight inkling of a flaw here. I am calling their bluff that "Nxt is open source". Oh, I entirely agree with you. If the source isn't public then no, it is not open source. But if NXT are keeping the source to themselves for financial reasons, I do not see what motivation they would have to release it. When I say flaw, what I mean to say is, NXT are not going to release to source unless it is in their best interests, so any protest would have to impact the value of NXT to be successful. If the source code is closed, then how can I trust that it does not have malware. Maybe you didn't know, most all the developers of Nxt are from Belarus. Again I agree with you. There could be malicious code in NXT that steals NXT from its stakeholders, or it could be perfectly fine, but I do agree that not releasing the source is highly suspect, but in a sense you can also understand that if they are profiting from it, then they don't want others, such as NEX, taking a slice of their pie. Their motives are purely financially motivated.
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January 19, 2014, 01:31:48 PM |
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It is hard to belive in this project. I have the feeling that the dev is just envious regarding to the success of the nxt project. I remember his scathing remarks to the nxt source code. Im not realy sure if this is not a big joke and scam for some donations.
You missed an important point, FrictionlessCoin himself is a joke ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is finest entertainment, enjoy it like we do! But he received 6btc for a fake copy project. https://blockchain.info/address/129YoGArgyp7eFi9wbXPtUq7BccS8EABhzA joke or not, the question is, is he a scammer or not? It sonds like the Visacoin scam.
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January 19, 2014, 01:31:54 PM |
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I am not saying this is a Ponzi scheme. Ahahaha! For now every OP, who wants to avoid scam accusations, should give to first posters some money as warranty, free distribution now isn't enough fair to BTT community ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 19, 2014, 01:31:59 PM |
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Thanks FrictionlessCoin! You are the Andy Warhol of POS performance art coins. Just grab a POS coin, copy it, and there you go .... ART The genius is the idea, not the execution! Anybody can do it - FREE POS COINS
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January 19, 2014, 01:32:18 PM |
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January 19, 2014, 01:33:40 PM |
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If the source code is closed, then how can I trust that it does not have malware. Maybe you didn't know, most all the developers of Nxt are from Belarus.
lmao, didn't know that you're racist How is that racist? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Unless 'developers' is somehow some sort of derogatory attribution.
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January 19, 2014, 01:34:04 PM |
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The project sonds a little to socialistic .
How could something for free evolve a value? It it will be ever worthless?
When Bitcoin came out, it was given away free. Buying a Pizza for 10,000 BTC, meant that Bitcoin at that time was virtually free. Value is created because of network effects. https://github.com/slothbag/nxt-decompiled/blob/master/Nxt.java
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January 19, 2014, 01:34:49 PM |
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I love how just below this thread on the first page is a copy/paste of NEX called NEM.
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January 19, 2014, 01:35:48 PM |
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count me in for some nex
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January 19, 2014, 01:36:22 PM |
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So..this project won't take off the ground unless NXT release the source code? I think I see a slight inkling of a flaw here. I am calling their bluff that "Nxt is open source". Oh, I entirely agree with you. If the source isn't public then no, it is not open source. But if NXT are keeping the source to themselves for financial reasons, I do not see what motivation they would have to release it. When I say flaw, what I mean to say is, NXT are not going to release to source unless it is in their best interests, so any protest would have to impact the value of NXT to be successful. If the source code is closed, then how can I trust that it does not have malware. Maybe you didn't know, most all the developers of Nxt are from Belarus. Again I agree with you. There could be malicious code in NXT that steals NXT from its stakeholders, or it could be perfectly fine, but I do agree that not releasing the source is highly suspect, but in a sense you can also understand that if they are profiting from it, then they don't want others, such as NEX, taking a slice of their pie. Their motives are purely financially motivated. NEX is their worse nightmare. Release their source code and instantly you have a bigger community elsewhere. Keep their source code, then you are highly suspect and can't be trusted. Keep their source code and they reveal that they have no barrier of entry. Why buy Nxt, when you can get thousands of NEX for free?
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