[PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta

[TwinWinNerD]

If someone wants to buy my stake in the "early bird" investment phase 1 (In this phase your invested money will receive significantly MORE coins)---> I have 50 LTC in escrow

PM me with an offer in BTC or LTC
(PS: No i am not selling for exactely 50 LTC...., also escrow is fine)

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[freigeist]

If someone wants to buy my stake in the "early bird" investment phase 1 (In this phase your invested money will receive significantly MORE coins)---> I have 50 LTC in escrow

PM me with an offer in BTC or LTC
(PS: No i am not selling for exactely 50 LTC...., also escrow is fine)

Does it mean you sell the whole stake for more or less than 50LTC
or that you are willing to sell a part of a stake?!

[jertsy]

Glad I got out of this ipo early on!

Why are you glad?
The coin has a steady progress and will release it's beta test within one week!!!!
It gets more and more clear that this coin will definitely have a bright future.
What a pity you are out while you had a chance and got out of it. 

It might have been better to have had a look at the beta test before getting out.

[TwinWinNerD]

If someone wants to buy my stake in the "early bird" investment phase 1 (In this phase your invested money will receive significantly MORE coins)---> I have 50 LTC in escrow

PM me with an offer in BTC or LTC
(PS: No i am not selling for exactely 50 LTC...., also escrow is fine)

Does it mean you sell the whole stake for more or less than 50LTC
or that you are willing to sell a part of a stake?!

I sell the whole stake for more than 50 ltc.

If i would pull back i would get 50 LTC, so there is that

[eXo_coin]

5. EC will be (fully) implemented soon

What curve?

NIST P256 (NID_X9_62_prime256v1), so 256Bit strength should be somewhat like 3072Bit RSA

EC is implemented now. Just need to check a bit if everything runs fine.

[Eadeqa]

5. EC will be (fully) implemented soon

What curve?

NIST P256 (NID_X9_62_prime256v1), so 256Bit strength should be somewhat like 3072Bit RSA

EC is implemented now. Just need to check a bit if everything runs fine.

Argh .. after all the Snowden revelation, should we really trust Nist curves?

http://cybermashup.com/2014/03/01/the-nsa-conference/

Boneh pointed out the unknown original of the constants in NIST’s P256 curve and discussed various ways to backdoor a crypto scheme;

It's not worth the risk! Find a high quality C++ library for ed25519 ..

[Eadeqa]

5. EC will be (fully) implemented soon

What curve?

NIST P256 (NID_X9_62_prime256v1), so 256Bit strength should be somewhat like 3072Bit RSA

EC is implemented now. Just need to check a bit if everything runs fine.

Argh .. after all the Snowden revelation, should we really trust Nist curves?

http://cybermashup.com/2014/03/01/the-nsa-conference/

Boneh pointed out the unknown original of the constants in NIST’s P256 curve and discussed various ways to backdoor a crypto scheme;

It's not worth the risk! Find a high quality C++ library for ed25519 ..

Would it be hard to switch to this?

https://github.com/floodyberry/ed25519-donna

[eXo_coin]

5. EC will be (fully) implemented soon

What curve?

NIST P256 (NID_X9_62_prime256v1), so 256Bit strength should be somewhat like 3072Bit RSA
EC is implemented now. Just need to check a bit if everything runs fine.

Argh .. after all the Snowden revelation, should we really trust Nist curves?
http://cybermashup.com/2014/03/01/the-nsa-conference/

Boneh pointed out the unknown original of the constants in NIST’s P256 curve and discussed various ways to backdoor a crypto scheme;

It's not worth the risk! Find a high quality C++ library for ed25519 ..

Would it be hard to switch to this?
https://github.com/floodyberry/ed25519-donna

Alright thanks for pointing out that concerns! I must admit that we are not that familiar with EC (of course we heard about it, disadvantages and advantages over RSA etc, but no indepth mathematical background information about EC like we have about RSA). Also was not aware that a Nist curve can be a security issue regarding NSA backdoors (and if NSA has any backdoor some hacker might get them as well).
To shortcut it: I was able to build ed25519-donna against openSSL and looked over the donna docu. So I would say that the further implementation would not take any longer than a hour.
However I am not that convinced that this donna build is safe. I do not know how trustworthy their developers are. Do you have more information about that? Also I think openSSL 1.2 will provide brainpool curves soon (not sure when). That might be an option as well since they should be randomly choosen curves (so there could not be a special backdoor for a specific curve), don't you think?
In the end we might just offer you (the user of the program in this meaning) to individually choose before address creation between NIST EC using openSSL, ed25519 using donna/OpenSSL or RSA using openSSL and - if present and easy to implement - brainpool curves later on. Right now all addresses already store an enum called keyType. The type already gets distributed to the network for verification (keytype-switch'ed) process (at the moment: rsa2048 or that nist curve). You could use a different keytype for every different address in your wallet this way.

Would that fit? If so, we would publish the EC/RSA sign/verify code parts in our wiki soon so everyone can check those parts.

[Eadeqa]

To shortcut it: I was able to build ed25519-donna against openSSL and looked over the donna docu. So I would say that the further implementation would not take any longer than a hour.
However I am not that convinced that this donna build is safe. I do not know how trustworthy their developers are. Do you have more information about that?

Well if it's correct implementation, shouldn't it produce the same result as reference implementation? I doubt anything is wrong with it, but there is also this library

https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium

[xiaohuolv]

after read the whitepaper it's seems a good project

[ljp7839008]

It is developed by several good software architects and programmers with university degrees in IT that are very familiar with C++11. C++11 will ensure high client speeds. It also will run on any windows vista or newer computer without any additional software (like java would need). It will not need .NET installed.   

[flyaway2sky]

I read that the distribution between the early bird adapters is proportional. Is it possible that an early bird adapter gets less EXO for 1 btc then a second-stage adapter if for example there are far less second stage investors then first-stage investors?
I'd like to join in the second stage, but I'm little worried about how much I can get if I invest 1 btc

[xiaohuolv]

Great progress you have maken. Nice.
Can't wait for the beta test! 
Very glad to join in the second IPO.

[HTC123]

I read that the distribution between the early bird adapters is proportional. Is it possible that an early bird adapter gets less EXO for 1 btc then a second-stage adapter if for example there are far less second stage investors then first-stage investors?
I'd like to join in the second stage, but I'm little worried about how much I can get if I invest 1 btc

Do you think it is possible that the 2nd stage investments will be less than 1st stage?
The possibility is absolutely ZERO!

We don't know how mamy exocoins you will receive with your 1btc investment.
But we do know the fraction: 0.185 divided by the amount of 2nd stage investment.

[davidzhl]

I am like eXc!!!

[Theodor Pohlmann]

wait for the open beta test.  Grin

[judit99]

I read that the distribution between the early bird adapters is proportional. Is it possible that an early bird adapter gets less EXO for 1 btc then a second-stage adapter if for example there are far less second stage investors then first-stage investors?
I'd like to join in the second stage, but I'm little worried about how much I can get if I invest 1 btc

Do you think it is possible that the 2nd stage investments will be less than 1st stage?
The possibility is absolutely ZERO!

We don't know how mamy exocoins you will receive with your 1btc investment.
But we do know the fraction: 0.185 divided by the amount of 2nd stage investment.

Totally agree!
I am sure I will put some coins in the second stage.

[lemfuture]

Sorry for asking this again, but there is absolutely no restriction for newbie accounts for stage 2? So that even a total newbie (just created) can participate?

as long as you have BTC to pay up

[duola9527]

I think some kind of proportional system as has been discussed is a nice balance.  2nd round investors know they are buying into a much more secured investment.

[judit99]

Sorry for asking this again, but there is absolutely no restriction for newbie accounts for stage 2? So that even a total newbie (just created) can participate?

as long as you have BTC to pay up

Yup! BTC is all enough!
It's not free distributed coin. No constrain needed.