[POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com

[suchmoon]

I have many graphs that show the pool eats many hasrates approximately 25% of total hashrates !

I seriously doubt that but hey - free speech. Lay it out here and we'll tell you where you're wrong.

[madian]

I have many graphs that show the pool eats many hasrates approximately 25% of total hashrates !

I seriously doubt that but hey - free speech. Lay it out here and we'll tell you where you're wrong.

Just check monopoly's last posts. Genuine crywolf

@monopoly. People here will help you if you have a problem. You will get pointers, tips and tricks on how to mine properly and understand key concepts regarding settings in wp. But the moment you scream and point fingers like that then you do not count.  So get your act together or go away.

[GoldBit89]

delayed payments today?

[poolwaffle]

PoolWaffle has been the most honest, upfront, transparent pool operator I have ever seen. This is one of the best (best in my opinion) pools out there. Before screaming scam, maybe ask for help or understand how pools estimate your hashrate based on submitted shares.

Thanks for reassuring me. 

Moreso, if I was going to scam people (which I'm not, obviously), I don't think the way to go about it would be to display hashrate graphs at -25%.  Seems like it would be pretty easy for people to catch on...

[poolwaffle]

delayed payments today?

Payouts were run a few hours ago.  The low-threshold payouts will be run later tonight (2nd daily payout), just cause we're waiting on a withdrawal from an exchange.

[edonkey]

It looks like the Dogecoin community has taken Charlie Lee's advice and will support merge mining with Litecoin.

PW, it's probably too early, but have you thought about supporting merge mining? Maybe you would allow people to associate a Doge address with a BTC mining address and leave it up to the individual miners to keep or exchange.

[caseking]

well I have been getting paid at .003 and up, so I ask



Recent Payouts (last 7 days)
Date   Amount   Transaction ID
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00551234   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000483   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00280611   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000000   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000000   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 03:33:54   0.00002221   06852323131d67939d66afdff08d792f516d36eebb8bced2a8ac562e5a87b0d1
2014-07-27 03:33:54   0.00514891   06852323131d67939d66afdff08d792f516d36eebb8bced2a8ac562e5a87b0d1
 

and I have a real job and family, forgive me if I don't read every FAQ at every pool, forum, etc that I deal with.

Conveniently, the day you got paid ".003" and up, was a Sunday, which, as previous referenced, is when we pay out 0.0005 and up.  Normal days are 0.005.

I don't feel these limits are too high.  At recent prices (~$600), 0.005 is $3, and 0.0005 is $0.30.  Its just a matter of transactions costing a larger and larger percent of the value at low send amounts.














Well, I guess I am just full of $#%^? Or have I STILL got an unpaid balance on Sunday?


Stats for 14PXfgEaT6GRHAfNr3BZbJ38nGwuBKQWTB

Workers: (15min approximated)
No workers currently mining! If you think there should be something here, please check that your miner is configured correctly!

Bitcoin Earnings: click here to see coin balances
Scrypt   Scrypt-N   X11   X13   [All]
Sent   1.84135875   0.00001022   0.57446283   0.12147489   2.53730669
Earned (not yet sent)   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00475308   0.00000000   0.00475308
Unconverted (approximate)   0.00000026   0.00000000   0.00012855   0.00000172   0.00013053
Earned+Unconverted   0.00000026   0.00000000   0.00488163   0.00000172   0.00488361
Total   1.84135901   0.00001022   0.57934446   0.12147661   2.54219030

Recent Payouts (last 7 days)
Date   Amount   Transaction ID
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00551234   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339

[caseking]

Well, moved to nice hash and got paid every day so far. Plus they graph profitability and hashrate.

[madian]

well I have been getting paid at .003 and up, so I ask



Recent Payouts (last 7 days)
Date   Amount   Transaction ID
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00551234   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000483   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00280611   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000000   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 17:35:31   0.00000000   b816466f6d2305e6c21a8a8bf5989f45a0d6059a87c3b9ee6d599feac5693cac
2014-07-27 03:33:54   0.00002221   06852323131d67939d66afdff08d792f516d36eebb8bced2a8ac562e5a87b0d1
2014-07-27 03:33:54   0.00514891   06852323131d67939d66afdff08d792f516d36eebb8bced2a8ac562e5a87b0d1
 

and I have a real job and family, forgive me if I don't read every FAQ at every pool, forum, etc that I deal with.

Conveniently, the day you got paid ".003" and up, was a Sunday, which, as previous referenced, is when we pay out 0.0005 and up.  Normal days are 0.005.

I don't feel these limits are too high.  At recent prices (~$600), 0.005 is $3, and 0.0005 is $0.30.  Its just a matter of transactions costing a larger and larger percent of the value at low send amounts.














Well, I guess I am just full of $#%^? Or have I STILL got an unpaid balance on Sunday?


Stats for 14PXfgEaT6GRHAfNr3BZbJ38nGwuBKQWTB

Workers: (15min approximated)
No workers currently mining! If you think there should be something here, please check that your miner is configured correctly!

Bitcoin Earnings: click here to see coin balances
Scrypt   Scrypt-N   X11   X13   [All]
Sent   1.84135875   0.00001022   0.57446283   0.12147489   2.53730669
Earned (not yet sent)   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00475308   0.00000000   0.00475308
Unconverted (approximate)   0.00000026   0.00000000   0.00012855   0.00000172   0.00013053
Earned+Unconverted   0.00000026   0.00000000   0.00488163   0.00000172   0.00488361
Total   1.84135901   0.00001022   0.57934446   0.12147661   2.54219030

Recent Payouts (last 7 days)
Date   Amount   Transaction ID
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00551234   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339
2014-07-29 03:29:05   0.00000000   b2e4136930aa7ee6589f43d7a5c21b54bd33037b980a1a4b34c491fc1f27d339

Allow me to answer your question. You ARE full of $#%^. You have been payed correctly, with 1 hour delay due to an announcement PoolWaffle wrote 2 posts above you but since you have "a family and work" you couldn't be bothered to read it. PW is not going to tell you bad stuff because you are a customer to him and because he is a nice person. But I am not, and I am actually sick of ppl like you that demand everything and expect everything without moving a finger. If you make so much fuss about 2 USD then you should maybe stop violating your little computer with this mining thingie and go spend some time with your family.

[Monopoly]

In my country there is a proverb that said :
Reason of some people is what they see !
I'm not going to force you believe me but the below story is a real story and For me it does not matter you guys believe that or not !

The story :
I always rent rig from beta rigs !
Two days ago i rented two rigs : One of them was 10 MH/s scrypt and another one was 110 Mh/s x11 .
And these are graphs .



In picture 1 :

From start to 11:20 the rig was mining on wafflepool and it's showing average of hashrate is 75-80 MH/s .
I thought the rig has problem then i switched to Multicoin on dedicatedpool.com from 11:20 to 13:15 and saw the rig is okay and average hashrate is 103 Mgh/s
Again i switched to waffepool but this time to another server eu.wafflepool.com:3331 by d=1.28 password and saw again hashrates down to 65-70Mh that is a little larger than 25% stealing hashrates .
After that i was sure waffepool stealing hashrates i switched to dediclatepool until ends of rental time .


In picture 2 :
Form start to end i was minig on wafflepool scrypt algortim and the pictrue is showing average hashrate is 8 MH/s .

During all time graphs and 15min approximated in the wafflepool was showing 10 Mh/s and 110 mh/s .

Sorry for my english but waffepool is really scammer.

[pj40]

I am just curious, how do you 'steal hashrates' ?  Do you understand the concept of variance and your hashrate is determined by your equipment, and not what some graph tells you?  They cannot give you a precise hashrate since it is determined by the shares you submit.  For example, I was mining at a constant 12.5 MH/s rate.  Sometimes wafflepool showed me mining at 18 MH/s, sometimes 6 MH/s.  But that is all based on the frequency of accepted shares submitted.

To sum up, there is no 'stealing hashrates', but you want to come here and bash wafflepool because of your perception of how things are supposed to work without understanding how they really work.

[jeezy]

In my country there is a proverb that said :
Reason of some people is what they see !
I'm not going to force you believe me but the below story is a real story and For me it does not matter you guys believe that or not !

The story :
I always rent rig from beta rigs !
Two days ago i rented two rigs : One of them was 10 MH/s scrypt and another one was 110 Mh/s x11 .
And these are graphs .



In picture 1 :

From start to 11:20 the rig was mining on wafflepool and it's showing average of hashrate is 75-80 MH/s .
I thought the rig has problem then i switched to Multicoin on dedicatedpool.com from 11:20 to 13:15 and saw the rig is okay and average hashrate is 103 Mgh/s
Again i switched to waffepool but this time to another server eu.wafflepool.com:3331 by d=1.28 password and saw again hashrates down to 65-70Mh that is a little larger than 25% stealing hashrates .
After that i was sure waffepool stealing hashrates i switched to dediclatepool until ends of rental time .


In picture 2 :
Form start to end i was minig on wafflepool scrypt algortim and the pictrue is showing average hashrate is 8 MH/s .

During all time graphs and 15min approximated in the wafflepool was showing 10 Mh/s and 110 mh/s .

Sorry for my english but waffepool is really scammer.

Damn. Wafflepool confirmed scam. Now I see it too! 

[suchmoon]

For me it does not matter you guys believe that or not !

Why are you bothering then?

Have you even contacted the rig owners to check how things look like on their side? It's their responsibility to ensure you get what you paid for or at least provide a feasible explanation. It's ludicrous to yell at waffle because a rental rig underperformed.

Edit: speling.

[nitrocs]

...Again i switched to waffepool but this time to another server eu.wafflepool.com:3331 by d=1.28 password and saw again hashrates down to 65-70Mh that is a little larger than 25% stealing hashrates .

by using d=1.28 you will have incredible variance swings

[chadwickx16]

...Again i switched to waffepool but this time to another server eu.wafflepool.com:3331 by d=1.28 password and saw again hashrates down to 65-70Mh that is a little larger than 25% stealing hashrates .

by using d=1.28 you will have incredible variance swings

1.28!!! HAHAHA! That's way too high, even for 100MH, I wouldn't be above d=0.64 on my rigs. 

[poolwaffle]

In my country there is a proverb that said :
Reason of some people is what they see !
I'm not going to force you believe me but the below story is a real story and For me it does not matter you guys believe that or not !

The story :
I always rent rig from beta rigs !
Two days ago i rented two rigs : One of them was 10 MH/s scrypt and another one was 110 Mh/s x11 .
And these are graphs .



In picture 1 :

From start to 11:20 the rig was mining on wafflepool and it's showing average of hashrate is 75-80 MH/s .
I thought the rig has problem then i switched to Multicoin on dedicatedpool.com from 11:20 to 13:15 and saw the rig is okay and average hashrate is 103 Mgh/s
Again i switched to waffepool but this time to another server eu.wafflepool.com:3331 by d=1.28 password and saw again hashrates down to 65-70Mh that is a little larger than 25% stealing hashrates .
After that i was sure waffepool stealing hashrates i switched to dediclatepool until ends of rental time .


In picture 2 :
Form start to end i was minig on wafflepool scrypt algortim and the pictrue is showing average hashrate is 8 MH/s .

During all time graphs and 15min approximated in the wafflepool was showing 10 Mh/s and 110 mh/s .

Sorry for my english but waffepool is really scammer.

So, there's a very easily explanation here, and it has nothing to do with me "stealing hashes" (seriously, really?).  Most likely, since it is a rented rig, and the person is getting paid for only the raw hashing power, they've most likely tweaked it waaaaay over the top in terms of performance.  Which is normally fine if you're mining the same work for a few minutes, and then get a new chunk of work.

However, on switching pools, you get new work quite often (depending on a ton of factors, many times it is close to every 5 seconds).  If his rig is tuned to the point that it takes it a full second to start doing new work, he'd show he's mining at 100MHs.  If he were mining a single coin, or on a pool that doesn't switch very often, he would probably see almost all of that as valid hashrate (1s switch time / 60s work time = ~1.5% rejected).  However, if on WP, where we switch every few seconds, you could very easily be seeing 20% rejects (1s switch time / 5s work time = 20% rejected).

Seeing your next post about going to a different server (eu) and seeing hashrate drop even more puts even less doubt in my mind.   Since you're now looking at 1s work switch time, and adding easily 300ms (0.3s) of latency to the calculation: 1.3/5 = 26% reject rate.

Thanks for trying to rationalize your way through it instead of immediately jumping to "this guy who has been extremely forthcoming so far, is most likely stealing from everyone", and then putting it in caps, and then in colored bold fonts for everyone to see.  I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're happy with the service here.

[nitrocs]

Thanks for trying to rationalize your way through it instead of immediately jumping to "this guy who has been extremely forthcoming so far, is most likely stealing from everyone", and then putting it in caps, and then in colored bold fonts for everyone to see.  I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're happy with the service here.

only thing he's missing is a few Geocities style animated gifs

[m0narch]

Thanks for trying to rationalize your way through it instead of immediately jumping to "this guy who has been extremely forthcoming so far, is most likely stealing from everyone", and then putting it in caps, and then in colored bold fonts for everyone to see.  I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're happy with the service here.

only thing he's missing is a few Geocities style animated gifs

LOL yeah and he should post it on his myspace page also

[suchmoon]

Thanks for trying to rationalize your way through it instead of immediately jumping to "this guy who has been extremely forthcoming so far, is most likely stealing from everyone", and then putting it in caps, and then in colored bold fonts for everyone to see.  I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're happy with the service here.

only thing he's missing is a few Geocities style animated gifs

LOL yeah and he should post it on his myspace page also

Poor guy (or gal) is a victim of a worldwide conspiracy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708717.msg8046202#msg8046202
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=705938.msg8014481#msg8014481
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702336.msg7950565#msg7950565
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg7946090#msg7946090

And I could swear there was something about not being able to log on to dicebitco.in but I can't find that post anymore, deleted perhaps.

[phzi]

Props to PoolWaffle... a prime example of taking it all in stride.