[POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com

[chadwickx16]

Thanks for trying to rationalize your way through it instead of immediately jumping to "this guy who has been extremely forthcoming so far, is most likely stealing from everyone", and then putting it in caps, and then in colored bold fonts for everyone to see.  I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're happy with the service here.

only thing he's missing is a few Geocities style animated gifs

LOL yeah and he should post it on his myspace page also

Poor guy (or gal) is a victim of a worldwide conspiracy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708717.msg8046202#msg8046202
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=705938.msg8014481#msg8014481
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702336.msg7950565#msg7950565
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg7946090#msg7946090

And I could swear there was something about not being able to log on to dicebitco.in but I can't find that post anymore, deleted perhaps.

Talk about wanting everything yesterday! Damn! I wonder if he sent BTC the day the S3's got released and didn't get a confirmation for an hour and a half.

[poolwaffle]

With the addition of a few new coins (notably Zipcoin), X13 is back online.  Obviously have either a failover enabled, or check it every so often, as if the profitability drops too low again (less than 50% LTC continuously) I'll disable the ports again so you guys aren't wasting a ton of time

[nitrocs]

With the addition of a few new coins (notably Zipcoin), X13 is back online.  Obviously have either a failover enabled, or check it every so often, as if the profitability drops too low again (less than 50% LTC continuously) I'll disable the ports again so you guys aren't wasting a ton of time

Seems as though quite a few folks were waiting on x13 here

Thanks for all your efforts

[coins_and_coins]

I have a single R9 290X. Should I be mining X11 or X13 right now, or is it too hard to predict?

[bl4z]

I have a single R9 290X. Should I be mining X11 or X13 right now, or is it too hard to predict?

my auto chinging script just changed back to x11

http://shrani.si/f/W/Db/14IW8HAM/screenshot-from-2014-08-.png

[poolwaffle]

I have a single R9 290X. Should I be mining X11 or X13 right now, or is it too hard to predict?

my auto chinging script just changed back to x11

Yep, X13 is back to <50% LTC, pool has been disabled again for now...

[coins_and_coins]

Yep, X13 is back to <50% LTC, pool has been disabled again for now...

Hi. New miner here. I'm loving the pool so far. I was just going to keep mine on X11. Does it ever get disabled, and if so how will we know, on our stat pages or in sgminer?

[madian]

X11 has never been disabled before -as much as I remember. However, it is always a good practice to have backup pools in your config/batch file so that you are covered no matter what. Usually PW announces changes here and if it is something really important it will be on the wafflepool page also. I'm not sure how it can be implemented using your miner other than changing to an alternate pool if wafflepool stops.

[poolwaffle]

Yep, X13 is back to <50% LTC, pool has been disabled again for now...

Hi. New miner here. I'm loving the pool so far. I was just going to keep mine on X11. Does it ever get disabled, and if so how will we know, on our stat pages or in sgminer?

Like the post above me mentions, X11 hasn't been disabled (and doesn't look to be needed).  X13 doesn't really bring much to the table past what X11 does, so very few coins are using it as a POW.  Most of the coins that are still X13 have very little buy support and are kinda dying out.  Most likely, if the current X13 ecosystem keeps up, it will be removed from the pool at some point completely (instead of up/down repeatedly).

As for how you'll know, either your miner will failover to a different pool (shown in sgminer), or I'll post something to the header of WP (and here).  Although again, X11 going away is very unlikely.

[suchmoon]

Yep, X13 is back to <50% LTC, pool has been disabled again for now...

Hi. New miner here. I'm loving the pool so far. I was just going to keep mine on X11. Does it ever get disabled, and if so how will we know, on our stat pages or in sgminer?

Like the post above me mentions, X11 hasn't been disabled (and doesn't look to be needed).  X13 doesn't really bring much to the table past what X11 does, so very few coins are using it as a POW.  Most of the coins that are still X13 have very little buy support and are kinda dying out.  Most likely, if the current X13 ecosystem keeps up, it will be removed from the pool at some point completely (instead of up/down repeatedly).

As for how you'll know, either your miner will failover to a different pool (shown in sgminer), or I'll post something to the header of WP (and here).  Although again, X11 going away is very unlikely.

With that in mind, what are your plans for the future - I'm guessing adding more algos isn't quite a priority right now? Is multi-algo switching still being considered? Based on what I'm seeing at rental sites there doesn't seem much going on beyond X11 and Scrypt at the moment: http://cryp.today/current (although there is still some demand for X13/X15, which is kind of suprising).

I guess it could be argued both ways:
1) multi-algo switching doesn't make sense because X11 is de facto standard for GPUs (and Scrypt for ASICs of course) and as you mentioned X13 is likely to die out
or
2) multi-algo switching is even more important because it would allow miners quickly take advantage of X13 if it spikes up briefly (or X15 or anything else that WP might implement)

Edit: duplicate duplicate words.

[poolwaffle]

Yep, X13 is back to <50% LTC, pool has been disabled again for now...

Hi. New miner here. I'm loving the pool so far. I was just going to keep mine on X11. Does it ever get disabled, and if so how will we know, on our stat pages or in sgminer?

Like the post above me mentions, X11 hasn't been disabled (and doesn't look to be needed).  X13 doesn't really bring much to the table past what X11 does, so very few coins are using it as a POW.  Most of the coins that are still X13 have very little buy support and are kinda dying out.  Most likely, if the current X13 ecosystem keeps up, it will be removed from the pool at some point completely (instead of up/down repeatedly).

As for how you'll know, either your miner will failover to a different pool (shown in sgminer), or I'll post something to the header of WP (and here).  Although again, X11 going away is very unlikely.

With that in mind, what are your plans for the future - I'm guessing adding more algos isn't quite a priority right now? Is multi-algo switching still being considered? Based on what I'm seeing at rental sites there doesn't seem much going on beyond X11 and Scrypt at the moment: http://cryp.today/current (although there is still some demand for X13/X15, which is kind of suprising).

I guess it could be argued both ways:
1) multi-algo switching doesn't make sense because X11 is de facto standard for GPUs (and Scrypt for ASICs of course) and as you mentioned X13 is likely to die out
or
2) multi-algo switching is even more important because it would allow miners quickly take advantage of X13 if it spikes up briefly (or X15 or anything else that WP might implement)

Edit: duplicate duplicate words.

At this point, I'm reasonably conflicted.  Its basically the exact things you mentioned.  Scrypt arose as an alternative to SHA as a "ASICs have come, we'll make our own casino, with blackjack, and hookers!" (futurama).  At some point, Scrypt ASICs were announced, and everyone did the same thing, except about 3-4 different alternatives popped up (Scrypt-N, X11, X13, NIST).  Scrypt-N and X13 look to have (for the most part) died off, and the community has centered around X11.  There are definitely times when X13/Scrypt-N jump up to be the most profitable over a short period of time.  But in all seriousness, there isn't much reason to add profit-switching for it.

Either Scrypt-N/X13 are enabled (profitable, disabled if horribly unprofitable), or X13 is the best to mine.  Scrypt really isn't viable unless you're an ASIC miner at this point (same as SHA at this point).  Which I think is reflected in our Scrypt numbers.  WP is heavily tuned for graphics cards, and still performs very well for those.  However, Scrypt for the most part has gone to 99% ASIC, and we have to completely redo the switching algorithm for ASICs (its high on my list, just hasn't happened).

So, my list?
- Scrypt tuning for ASICs.  We've got a ton of users who would benefit, just hasn't happened (its a _lot_ of tuning).
- Constant monitoring for new coins (we've got significantly better at this - lots of crons).

Algo-switching doesn't seem nearly as exciting as it did a month ago... X11 is dominating for GPUs (and looks to continue for the short term).

Payout switching ("I want to hold coin X, convert the rest to Y") is still pretty high on the list.  I've actually got a proof-of-concept working here, with what is essentially a local embedded exchange (trading coins behind the scenes with other WP users automatically) to avoid exchanges completely.  But its far from release ready...  Definitely could be something to set us apart though...

[sp_]

Payout switching ("I want to hold coin X, convert the rest to Y") is still pretty high on the list.  I've actually got a proof-of-concept working here, with what is essentially a local embedded exchange (trading coins behind the scenes with other WP users automatically) to avoid exchanges completely.  But its far from release ready...  Definitely could be something to set us apart though...

This is something I look forward too. I would like all my payments to be done in Darkcoin instead of Bitcoin. Keep up the good work.

[utahjohn]

Payout switching ("I want to hold coin X, convert the rest to Y") is still pretty high on the list.  I've actually got a proof-of-concept working here, with what is essentially a local embedded exchange (trading coins behind the scenes with other WP users automatically) to avoid exchanges completely.  But its far from release ready...  Definitely could be something to set us apart though...

This is something I look forward too. I would like all my payments to be done in Darkcoin instead of Bitcoin. Keep up the good work.

Of course this would require groestl algo pool to be added to wafflepool so DMD could be mined and payed out this way ...
I am currently alpha testing a private Diamondcoin NOMP pool that I have been working on ... perhaps WP could proxy to my pool once I open it to public use (1% fee) ...
Once all is good and working properly I can add other groestl algo coins to my pool on different ports and then WP could decide which port to mine on ...

[utahjohn]

From MP News:

Aug 06 11:17 PM It has come to our attention that sgminerwindows.com may have been distributing trojan binaries that steal wallets. We have removed the link from our help page and do not advise anyone to use that site anymore. We will update our help section with a new link for sgminer binaries once we find a reliable source.

[jimlite]

From MP News:

Aug 06 11:17 PM It has come to our attention that sgminerwindows.com may have been distributing trojan binaries that steal wallets. We have removed the link from our help page and do not advise anyone to use that site anymore. We will update our help section with a new link for sgminer binaries once we find a reliable source.

Wow, hold on, is this all versions of sgminer.exe, or ONLY the one downloaded from sgminerwindows.com site?
Please respond, and will virus checks pick this up, if so what is the trojan called?

[phzi]

From MP News:

Aug 06 11:17 PM It has come to our attention that sgminerwindows.com may have been distributing trojan binaries that steal wallets. We have removed the link from our help page and do not advise anyone to use that site anymore. We will update our help section with a new link for sgminer binaries once we find a reliable source.

Wow, hold on, is this all versions of sgminer.exe, or ONLY the one downloaded from sgminerwindows.com site?
Please respond, and will virus checks pick this up, if so what is the trojan called?

This report is only about certain versions of sgminer from sgminerwindows.com .  That said, always be careful about binaries...

[woytas]

n-scrypt pool stuck?? last block 2h ago...

edit: miner still getting work so maybe just stats got stuck
edit2: sorry got confused by the flat line in unconverted stats, seems everything is good, except profitability 

[poolwaffle]

n-scrypt pool stuck?? last block 2h ago...

edit: miner still getting work so maybe just stats got stuck
edit2: sorry got confused by the flat line in unconverted stats, seems everything is good, except profitability 

Maybe i'm confused.  Scrypt-N profit is at ~300% vsLTC?

[Vlad2Vlad]

I'm a bit confused too.

[jimlite]

Isn't that because scrypt-n is 3x less speed than scrypt?